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Ulster and Scotland
Topic Started: Apr 18 2010, 02:11 PM (192 Views)
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Wales is not likely to break from the union any time soon but polls in the other parts indicate that these crunch votes are approaching..what do the voters here see in the future for these states
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Im more concerned about the islamification of europe
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I'm not concerned about Scottish independence or Ulsters at all really. I'd have the South of England independent if i could..lol
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my pov is this

scotland may want it more and would be the first to achieve it

As for northern Ireland .... nope not going to happen .....
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majority of scots arent SNP supporters thought they (SNP) will tell you otherwise
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SNP is going as is the Nationalists in Ulster but talking to Irishmen for the south on PR 100% would not want Ulster if it was given to them. Westminster see the whole place as a headache and Dublin wishes it would go away.
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yes and its their actions which fuel separatism - people blaming country's attitudes on their people rather than blaming their governments.
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Some_Ulsterman
Apr 18 2010, 05:40 PM
yes and its their actions which fuel separatism - people blaming country's attitudes on their people rather than blaming their governments.
Sorry i don't understand. Most irish i know don't want the north as do most english here, it's expensive and hassle. I have no probelm with ulstermen as asked on the other thread as long as they like and respect everyone too. I have also met a few who didn't, they were racist beyond believe but the fact they were Ulstermen is nothing more then a coincidence and nothing more.
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Northern Ireland will remain British for at least another 50 years. after that itl depend on the attitudes of me and my fellow British ulstermen. We all know the nationilst vote is rising dramaticly ....


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So are you saying you would ignore democratic process and use other "means"
It's statements like that which make us want to distance ourselves fro the place and i'm sure the country you long to stay part of will quickly turn their backs on you once democratic process is ignored.

As it stands we look at the place like it's another planet. It's part of the UK like us but i'd travel to Dublin again way before i would visit Ulster and as would almost everyone i know.
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WestLondonBlue
Apr 18 2010, 06:51 PM
So are you saying you would ignore democratic process and use other "means"
It's statements like that which make us want to distance ourselves fro the place and i'm sure the country you long to stay part of will quickly turn their backs on you once democratic process is ignored.

As it stands we look at the place like it's another planet. It's part of the UK like us but i'd travel to Dublin again way before i would visit Ulster and as would almost everyone i know.
What?
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Apr 18 2010, 06:53 PM
WestLondonBlue
Apr 18 2010, 06:51 PM
So are you saying you would ignore democratic process and use other "means"
It's statements like that which make us want to distance ourselves fro the place and i'm sure the country you long to stay part of will quickly turn their backs on you once democratic process is ignored.

As it stands we look at the place like it's another planet. It's part of the UK like us but i'd travel to Dublin again way before i would visit Ulster and as would almost everyone i know.
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Sorry...It will depend on the attitude of all people and not just fellow British Ulstermen unless you are saying you are against democratic process
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WestLondonBlue
Apr 18 2010, 06:51 PM
So are you saying you would ignore democratic process and use other "means"
It's statements like that which make us want to distance ourselves fro the place and i'm sure the country you long to stay part of will quickly turn their backs on you once democratic process is ignored.

As it stands we look at the place like it's another planet. It's part of the UK like us but i'd travel to Dublin again way before i would visit Ulster and as would almost everyone i know.
you are seriously treading on the wrong path

The peace process has been working, and the loyalist have shown remarkable restraint in the face of sheer provocation from the republicans ... this shows that the majority of the loyalist do not want to use these so called other means to which you refer

I also take offense at the remark you made about usltermen being being racist, your just a complete uneducated fool and really need to keep out of issues that you know very little about ...

lets not forget, it were an Englishman that killed far more irish than any ulsterman ..... but i take it your education didnt teach you about the new model army and the atrocities carried out by oliver cromwell, and if i move the clock forward a bit more ... how many English men were members of the black and tans, and lets not forget the things they done to the native irish, so before you insult ulsterman you should take a look at your own englishness you pompous moron
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WestLondonBlue
Apr 18 2010, 07:05 PM
Crusader_86
Apr 18 2010, 06:53 PM
WestLondonBlue
Apr 18 2010, 06:51 PM
So are you saying you would ignore democratic process and use other "means"
It's statements like that which make us want to distance ourselves fro the place and i'm sure the country you long to stay part of will quickly turn their backs on you once democratic process is ignored.

As it stands we look at the place like it's another planet. It's part of the UK like us but i'd travel to Dublin again way before i would visit Ulster and as would almost everyone i know.
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Sorry...It will depend on the attitude of all people and not just fellow British Ulstermen unless you are saying you are against democratic process
No i meant it in if we will still want to remain part of the UK which is undoubtly yes. You are on this forum soley to start arguments with members of the EDL.
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i sse WLB is trying to stir it with the ulster lads now
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Sorry i reacted to the first post by crusader, i think i made my point the second time.
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yeah we are all racist?- and NI looks like a foreign country? we look the way britain should be !(or was)
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Some_Ulsterman
Apr 18 2010, 07:47 PM
yeah we are all racist?- and NI looks like a foreign country? we look the way britain should be !(or was)
You got that right!
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Some_Ulsterman
Apr 18 2010, 07:47 PM
yeah we are all racist?- and NI looks like a foreign country? we look the way britain should be !(or was)
I feel safer on the fountain estate and all the other Loyalist areas in Ulster than I do in ANY part of the UK.
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Apr 18 2010, 07:49 PM
Some_Ulsterman
Apr 18 2010, 07:47 PM
yeah we are all racist?- and NI looks like a foreign country? we look the way britain should be !(or was)
I feel safer on the fountain estate and all the other Loyalist areas in Ulster than I do in ANY part of the UK.
And its dodgey at times!
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On the Scottish independance, I can't see it happening.

I don't see why the OP has went on the rampage against Ulster though?
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@WLB wtf are you upto on here,we are a movement of united defence leagues,and our aims are stopping the rise of the islamififacation of our united kingdom,our united defence leagues support each other by attending WDL,SDL,EDL and in the furure UDL demos.The way we have all got together and put aside any differences that have been put there by misconceptions or other reasons has mystified the british govt and other organisations who would rather see us in conflict with each other.
The agenda of the govt and others is to fully dilute the very fabric of the united kingdomand have a population that has no cultural ties or basic loyalties to the country.we even though in the business of protesting against militant islam has shown a spirit of full unity of the four countries and an on going debate of how we want our countries to be .one law one land,no sharia etc.

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right am proper f**ked off with WLB - ban him.

WTF has this thread got to do with EDL.

Am a catholic married to a portadown protestant - its sooo irrelavant.

Do NOT feed the trolls.

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WestLondonBlue
Apr 18 2010, 06:51 PM
So are you saying you would ignore democratic process and use other "means"
It's statements like that which make us want to distance ourselves fro the place and i'm sure the country you long to stay part of will quickly turn their backs on you once democratic process is ignored.

As it stands we look at the place like it's another planet. It's part of the UK like us but i'd travel to Dublin again way before i would visit Ulster and as would almost everyone i know.
When speaking on this subject you use the word 'we' and 'us' a lot, you only speak for yourself, not all Englishmen. I see Ulster as much a part of Britain as anywhere else in these islands. But that's only my opinion I wouldn't be so arrogant as to talk on behalf of others they can speak for themselves.
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