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| Is the EDL 'far right'? 'far right' = 'fascist' | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 18 2010, 09:34 AM (254 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 09:34 AM Post #1 |
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A simple point. The EDL has to challenge the term 'far right' which is used for us in the media and elsewhere. Even those who are not particularly anti-EDL use the adjective 'far right'. The point is that they never say 'far left' for UAF. They don't use the term 'far left' for anyone or any group! They press knows that it can't get away with the term 'facist' for the EDL because it is so obviously false. But they can say 'far right'. The problem is: 'far right' = 'fascist' |
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 09:40 AM Post #2 |
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Which is so wrong. Fascism is a far left totalitarian State control ideology. Fascism Cambridge dictionary definition. "a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control of social and economic life, and extreme pride in country and race, with no expression of political disagreement allowed" State control and no political disagreement allowed is usually found under a communist regime or a tinpot dictatorship like Zimbabwe. |
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| General Pershing | Apr 18 2010, 11:09 AM Post #3 |
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The trouble with the press is that they have no idea what equates to fascism and/or far right/far left wing extremism. 100% of the population will be somewhere to the left, or somewhere to the right in their views. The majority of people have views that are both swinging to the left and to the right. At the end of the day, it's a stupid label that actually means diddly-squat! The truth is still the truth and the truth is that Islamism is happening in Europe on an unadulterated scale. The fact that we want that to stop is neither right wing or left wing. It's just pure and simple common sense. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 11:15 AM Post #4 |
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fascist = UAF & SWP by defenition! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 11:19 AM Post #5 |
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And common sense aint very common anymore! Peronally I would say the EDL are simply a right of center, populist, patriotic movement. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 11:55 AM Post #6 |
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thats what i see it as mate. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 01:02 PM Post #7 |
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yeah common sense was replaced with political correctness |
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| pyrus | Apr 18 2010, 01:15 PM Post #8 |
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I wonder where the 'extreme pride in country and race' part comes from the UAF appear to have no pride in anything - so does that make them 'worse than fascists'? Edited by pyrus, Apr 18 2010, 01:15 PM.
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 01:37 PM Post #9 |
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![]() i prefer the 'oppressive dictatorial control' defenition. i find it amazing the UAF wave communist flags yet at a conservative estimate communists have murdered 100 million of THEIR OWN people. maybe over that amount in USSR and china alone. conservative figures from the black book of communism- 65 million in the People's Republic of China 20 million in the Soviet Union 2 million in Cambodia 2 million in North Korea 1.7 million in Africa 1.5 million in Afghanistan 1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe 1 million in Vietnam 150,000 in Latin America and that pictures from last week in london when theyre attacking the 'fascist' BNP. obviously the BNP with exactly '0' deaths on their hands arent upto UAF standards. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 05:19 PM Post #10 |
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Not to mention single party state. Communism is a single party system Fascism is a single party system Both control virtually everything Both have a history of oppression, murder and control. |
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| porkypig | Apr 19 2010, 05:33 PM Post #11 |
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birds of a feather? its very easy to be cast as far right when so many misguided people who have yet to come full circle in their political views are attracted to the edl bcos they feel its the right place for them. unfortunately many people who were and still are affiliated with the old school far right are among those misguided members. that in itself makes the job easier for those other misguided far leftist to beat the old tune out . but i believe that in the bible even though im an atheist theres a quote by jesus that says, "we know the tree by its fruit" |
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| Deleted User | Apr 19 2010, 06:16 PM Post #12 |
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It's foolish to 'pigeon-hole' us all. I'm not 'right' or 'left', I'm what you would perhaps call an English Liberal and also a supporter of the EDL. I'm sure that many of our detractors would like to label us, but they will end-up looking a bit daft if folk look at the diversity that we have here.
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| dmac | Apr 19 2010, 07:54 PM Post #13 |
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i am more insulted being called a neo nazi or nazi scum i don't want an a country full of blue eyed blonde haired people i just want a country i feel i belong to with a goverment that as the balls to keep the country and its culture no move the goal posts everytime a muslim says they don't like something.this is england with english ways leave it alone and leave us english people alone stop changing things for the so called minority .if they don't like it they can find another country to live in that suits them.i hear iceland is pretty nice at the moment. |
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| cornishphoenix | Apr 20 2010, 11:38 AM Post #14 |
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No left, no right, just people! |
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| made in England | Apr 20 2010, 12:13 PM Post #15 |
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As a kid i was always made to believe that the reasons why my gt granddad fought and died in the great war and my granddad was killed action in WW2 was to preserve our way of life and most of all to keep our country free from the foreign aggressor and invader. So i suppose if they were around today they would also be branded as so called far right Nazis. Then again im glad theyre not here to see this open sewer which they fought and died so valiantly for. f**k those red bastards and everything they stand for
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"Our ancestors took this land. They took it and made it and held it. We do not give up what our ancestors gave us. They came across the sea and they fought here, and they built here and they're buried here. This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!" Nations which go down fighting rise again, those who surrender tamely are finished Midsomer the last great bastion of Englishness ....Brian True-May Werian se Angelcynn | |
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| kaimana1 | Apr 20 2010, 08:56 PM Post #16 |
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AMEN to that!!
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| Deleted User | Apr 20 2010, 09:04 PM Post #17 |
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Pay no attention whatsoever to Neo Left-wing agitators who use the word NAZI like saying it earns them a quid a time , they use it to deflect the fact they havent really got a point and to further their own warped agenda . |
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| Deleted User | Apr 20 2010, 09:09 PM Post #18 |
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The EDL is an apolitical organisation and clearly states this. The members of the EDL and other people who post here are often people who have a strong political interest. We have Tory supporters, Labour supporters (God knows why?), BNP, UKIP I'm sure we may even have one or 2 Nick Clegg fans although I can't think of any. The EDL is all about opposing militant islam. EDL members do other stuff in their free time so are interested in other stuff too. I think it will be difficult to get rid of the far right tag. The majority of the MSM is liberal/labour so it will be difficult to get them to support an enemy of the UAF. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try. God knows how you would do it though. More Sikhs/Jews/gays/others being more visible as members/on marches etc.? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 20 2010, 09:25 PM Post #19 |
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This is what Far-right means... (Maybe someone should give it to the Media.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right |
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| made in England | Apr 21 2010, 12:08 PM Post #20 |
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Just out of curiosity why did you show your contempt for and target blue eyed blonde haired people? and also associate their specific trait with the Nazis within the same sentence? Do you consider all blonde people to be of a super race in which was orchestrated by a regime that was destroyed almost 70 years ago? Do you think blue eyed blonde people should forever carry the burden of guilt for this episode in history? I presume your answer will be no, so again why? As of yet im the only one here thats questioned you on this but imagine the outcry if you had said you didnt want to see a country full of black people or Asian people or lets get a little more personal like you did with the blondes and say people with slant eyes and yellow skin. The sad thing is that people in this country or infact the world have been conditioned to accept that its ok to make racist remarks or gestures even attacks towards white people without repercussion. Edited by made in England, Apr 21 2010, 12:50 PM.
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"Our ancestors took this land. They took it and made it and held it. We do not give up what our ancestors gave us. They came across the sea and they fought here, and they built here and they're buried here. This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!" Nations which go down fighting rise again, those who surrender tamely are finished Midsomer the last great bastion of Englishness ....Brian True-May Werian se Angelcynn | |
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| pyrus | Apr 21 2010, 08:02 PM Post #21 |
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I consider myself right wing but who cares? does that mean that my opinion is worth any more or any less? there are plenty on here that I'd consider far more left than I am -but so what? if you care about something then it's the issues that matter, not whether you're in the left or right 'club' |
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| Deleted User | Apr 21 2010, 08:22 PM Post #22 |
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i'm a loyalist always have been- always will |
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