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| Losing the Battle in the Universities...; Lost more like. | |
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| Dragons are coming | Apr 15 2010, 06:31 PM Post #1 |
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We need to get into the Universities and start spreadiing our message. How can we hope to have a chance when things like this is happening. http://hurryupharry.org/2010/02/02/lse-students-baulk-at-defence-of-hizb-ut-tahrir/ This isn't just important - it's VITAL. It won't be easy and it would take time but I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is an volunteer. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 06:36 PM Post #2 |
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People tend to assume that universities are essentially a hotbed of left-wingers and SWP supporters. This is not necessarily the case. When the SWP showed up at my old school in the East End, they were basically ignored. It may be worth, at least, getting a sense of feeling at some of these establishments. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 06:37 PM Post #3 |
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We lost the battle in the universities decades ago and it will be a long time before we regain any influence whatsoever in them. When the reds realised they wouldn't gain a mandate by ballot in this country they set about infiltrating every public institution, including our schools and universities. Basic critique whilst studying is either by a 'marxist perspective' or a 'feminist persepctive' never a working class patriotic one. It's how they have brainwashed the nation into accepting this multicultural uptopia and the country has been run along socialisty guidelines without us ever actually electing a (openly) socialist government |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 06:39 PM Post #4 |
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VL: I think that's reasonable in the 'liberal arts' subjects, but there are still the science, engineering and business schools to consider. |
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| Dragons are coming | Apr 15 2010, 06:40 PM Post #5 |
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Which is why it's vital we at least try and change it. |
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| willcpfc | Apr 15 2010, 07:23 PM Post #6 |
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I am at university. Not a good place for edl affiliation. wrong demographic student wise, and staff are left wing to the extreme. However not all students are uaf. I for one support edl and agree with our principled stance. |
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| Dragons are coming | Apr 15 2010, 07:33 PM Post #7 |
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..but it's these students who will be the next leaders of the country. Which is why we have to go in there. |
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| willcpfc | Apr 15 2010, 07:43 PM Post #8 |
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I am a mature student, most of the college leavers who are the majority seem very uninterested in politics etc, however as I said the staff are left leaning and this comes out in the teaching...i am immune to this as I ceased being impressionable long ago haha. Anyway I don't see how the Edl could get their message across in these institutions except via debates which are only attended by those already convinced one way or another. |
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| Dragons are coming | Apr 15 2010, 07:47 PM Post #9 |
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Well it's time to change that. Personnally I think its the key for long term sucess. It's a circle though isn't it? These kids are indoctrinated by the teachers who then go on to be teachers themselves etc etc....That circle has to be broken. |
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| willcpfc | Apr 15 2010, 08:09 PM Post #10 |
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that is a fair point. I am keeping an eye on things from the inside. I hope to find a uaf activist to upset but its not happened yet... It is curious how the lecture halls are populated by far lelf persons when communism etc has been discredited in most peoples eyes. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 01:10 AM Post #11 |
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Disagree with you there. My exposure to economists, professors etc, is that despite the facts being right in front of them many of them are still essentially progressive marxists and old labour supporters. Tax and spend - genius. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 01:16 AM Post #12 |
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Wow, really? That's surprising, I thought they would be right-wing capitalists looking to perpetuate the status quo through the education system. The students could come out untouched, though. The way I've head about extremist teachers trying to install their views on their students alienates the latter into the other way of thinking. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 01:18 AM Post #13 |
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Most economists that are in the education system that I have come into contact with are left wing socialists. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 02:35 AM Post #14 |
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They teach practices of taxation, nationalisation and redistribution of wealth? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:43 PM Post #15 |
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In simple terms yes. Most of them seem to be Big State. "Progressives" |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:58 PM Post #16 |
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SWP will take advantage of young naive students, because most of us would love to do good, and help protect one another. But gaining the student support of unions, and going on protests you begin to build a foot army of naive people, and then can you spread your socialist views. Because the idea of socialism is great, they'll ignore all the very bad things about socialism, and begin to follow it. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 01:05 PM Post #17 |
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That was the whole idea of the infiltration, how to inflict socialist ideology on a people without them voting for it at the ballot box. Brainwash future leaders of public bodies, trades unions, teachers etc etc and they will do the work of the left when they leave University. |
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| adrian2010 | Apr 17 2010, 01:44 AM Post #18 |
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Ha Petty srudents know nothing... they need to just look around them damn muzzies want to take over the campuses! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 17 2010, 05:01 AM Post #19 |
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This wouldn't be the case if we instilled in our children a sense of national pride. You know, like they do in America. Teach them from an early age to love their country and the vast majority will reject any bulls**t like this at first sight. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 17 2010, 05:38 AM Post #20 |
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We know how to put your computers together so you can write things like that on fora like these. |
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| WestLondonBlue | Apr 18 2010, 02:17 AM Post #21 |
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I only read the first post but what "battle" |
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 03:53 AM Post #22 |
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Uni students = Tree huggin hippies How many did i just offend?
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