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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:11 PM Post #301 |
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I'd say the same to anyone of religious persuasion, BUT I feel it's more relevant with Islam as they are openly intolerant in the ways that your pictures show. If there was any other nation based on religious principles that persecuted people in this way, I'd be fighting against that too. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:13 PM Post #302 |
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Maybe you missed the earlier posts he made against others with a different view to his. If you bothered to read them you would know i was being sarcastic. And there is no need to swear either. Thats childish. Come on, play nicely with the others.
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:16 PM Post #303 |
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I always swear hahaha I do enjoy these threads though. Some of the heated stuff is, of course, sideline fluff, but you all pull out the issues well on both sides. Salutations, Comrade Knuckles |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:22 PM Post #304 |
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oh dear! yet anyone who rapes/marries an 8 year old is a good guy! islam-the religion of the backwards retarded perverted stoneage brainwashed murdering halfwits - coming to a neighbourhood near you! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:22 PM Post #305 |
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Me too. This thread certainly has legs, its been going on for a couple of days now. Lots of good information being shared. That's what its all about i suppose. "Comrade Knuckles?" LOL! |
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 09:29 PM Post #306 |
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These threads are always good. I dont like the petty name calling and 'im more EDL than you' displayed at times though. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:36 PM Post #307 |
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That globos character has been posting on this thread http://forum.planet-rugby.com/index.php?t=msg&th=188809&prevloaded=1&&start=120 |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:36 PM Post #308 |
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Agreed. I looked back at some of the comments and it seems that people who haven't been to demos have less validation to comment than those who have. We all have something to offer the EDL, whether its ideas, money or bodies on demos, for example. I know it's good to reply with passion and quickly to keep the momentum flowing, but sometimes one has to cool off before posting or go back and edit. I've done both on numerous occasions. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:37 PM Post #309 |
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Sob: thanks for the link. That's totally shown where he's coming from. Formulate a negative hypothesis, then gather supporting data by poking and prodding in a condescending manner. The level of ignorance is highlighted by the preconception of the link to Stormfront. If I had people working for me who formed conclusions on a miniscule percentage of the available data, I'd fire their arses. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:46 PM Post #310 |
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Me and Anxiety saw it coming.. Easy :
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:52 PM Post #311 |
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f**kin ell sobieski how did you find that? checkmate methinks ! well done sherlock. |
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 09:53 PM Post #312 |
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speak English boi... |
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| kaimana1 | Apr 16 2010, 09:55 PM Post #313 |
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EXPOSED! great job crusader ! |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 09:56 PM Post #314 |
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Find what..i've said nothing there that i did not say here |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:56 PM Post #315 |
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What a tool, he even used the same handle LOL! |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 09:58 PM Post #316 |
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Well yes..... |
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| kaimana1 | Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM Post #317 |
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Globos Have you made this statement on this forum "globos Messages: 1099 Registered: April 2006 Senior Member "Join just to see how thick they are...have you seen their sister site Stormfront " Like i said EXPOSED!!! |
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 10:01 PM Post #318 |
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I am not going to ask you to leave, I welcome you. Come, look, learn. Some posts fly close to the wind, but we are not racist. See a post your bothered about, hit the report button and action will be taken. Oh and storm front, pussys, you want Blood and Honour. But they do like to knock on the door... |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:07 PM Post #319 |
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"Join just to see how thick they are...have you seen their sister site Stormfront " the supreme irony of that statement
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:08 PM Post #320 |
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You said we're all thick but you've been intellectually demolished by pretty much everyone on here. You just aint as bright as you think you are. Not even close, numpty. |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 10:10 PM Post #321 |
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I've raised valid points here in relation to the incident on Belgium on another thread and on the racism against whites thread which judging from the other posts is exactly the reason the vast majority of educated Britain have a negative opinion of you guys Now if you are capable of entering in coherent debate on the immigration issues our country face then let's go ahead..if you want to live up to the stereotype of the movement being a meeting place for uneducated football thugs who want do get together and discuss how much they hate immigration but offer now realistic solutions then go ahead. I understand there is an issue and am happy to discuss a solution with anyone capable of making sense. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:10 PM Post #322 |
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Told you he was a troll, was right again. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:11 PM Post #323 |
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read post 309 and explain how you came to arrive at this conclusion? edited |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:13 PM Post #324 |
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if he thinks stormfronts a 'sister site' he's not the sharpest tool in the box. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:15 PM Post #325 |
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well what have you found out you muppet? thought we were a bunch of knuckledraggers did you ? c'mon knobos i mean globus comparing us to stormfront you really do have the IQ of a gnat we've seen many trolls on here but you take the biscuit - you are officially the numbest troll we've had on here- do you want to post that on your home site? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:15 PM Post #326 |
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Globos, Is your life so pathetic you must look champion to your pathetic "rugby" forum e-buddies? Is your life so lonely and boring the best entertainment you have is being a smelly little rodent on here? We all had you sussed within your first 7 posts, so were not that "thick" now are we. Seriously, why dont you get a life? I'm sure there is much better things you can do then sit on one forum trying to look big for joining a different one and trying to "fool" us, which you failed badly at by the way. Why don't you sod off back to your rugby forum and tell them how hard you are for coming here. Your sussed, so go away. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:16 PM Post #327 |
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http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/oneworld22/Rugby/IrelandU20s_2010SixNationschampions.jpg?t=1269544043 f**king LOL I imagine Globos to be one of these kind of pimple faced c**ts. Then he goes back in the showers after a rugby game to scrub down his team. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:17 PM Post #328 |
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Hey globos mr intellectual, where is your evidence that this is a sister site to Stormfront? What's the matter, cat got your tongue? |
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 10:19 PM Post #329 |
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Ok I call you, start a new thread, no name calling etc, just facts and relevant opinions iain |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:24 PM Post #330 |
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Agreed, this threads been derailed enough. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:28 PM Post #331 |
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I think we've made globos cry. Top dog on his rugger bugger site but very much the runt of the litter on here. I hope he reassesses his life and does something positive with it. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:29 PM Post #332 |
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is it groundhog day? is it mankytoes again? 'im considerably more educated than you' its like the wheels turning but the fkn hamsters dead |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:30 PM Post #333 |
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I think we should hear what he has to say for himself. But start a new thread. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:31 PM Post #334 |
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Here we go with the bulls**t again. Eductaed Britiain bla bla Yet another pompus c**t thinking he knows best. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:31 PM Post #335 |
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Lets forget about him and get back on topic people. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 10:34 PM Post #336 |
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HS will be along to demolish him (as usual) |
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| ignominius | Apr 16 2010, 10:50 PM Post #337 |
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Now he's been rumbled as having been spreading the muck...he's run away... |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 11:07 PM Post #338 |
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@Anxiety, troll monitor. ![]() Another one bites the dust.
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 11:47 PM Post #339 |
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I wish I had the same opinion of my contribution. The whole thing is far too personal for me. I have to struggle to maintain a semblance of rationality. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 11:53 PM Post #340 |
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I lived next door to a Muslim, Bangladeshi family for six years and they were the only Muslim family on the estate. In general they seemed a nice family, always spoke and were always polite. But what we did notice was how the two sons were treated a lot different from the two girls. The boys were allowed to go out and do their own thing, while the girls were kept in doors. While we were there we witnessed one of the daughters having an arranged marriage, and from what I witnessed it wasn't very pleasant. She was crying and screaming and passing out and had to be carried to her wedding ceremony. I was later told by her brother, that once married, she had to go and live with her husbands family. That's why she was so distraught. One day me and my partner heard loads of screaming and shouting coming from next door, we thought world war three had started. A couple of days later I asked the youngest son, if everything was ok because of all the shouting the day before. He then told me that his mother had got angry because his sister had put up an East 17 poster on her wall. We also noticed how every time our children played with our Muslim neighbours children, the mother would always bath them. From our back garden you could hear the kids complaining because she was scrubbing them so hard. It's only now after all these years, we have just realised it's because my children were dirty Kuffar.Both parents were born in Bangladesh but all the children were born here. The parents after living here for thirteen years, could barely speak a word of English. So my view is they will never integrate in a million years. Like I said the boys were allowed a lot more freedom, so it looks like they were integrating to a certain point but I bet when it comes to marriage, they will marry a Muslim girl or a White girl which will have to convert. We moved from that estate a few years back and occasionally bump into the oldest son, who has informed us of a family tragedy involving his sister, which I am not going to go into. You can't integrate people who don't want to integrate. |
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| waspish | Apr 16 2010, 11:54 PM Post #341 |
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well said that man....
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| Deleted User | Apr 17 2010, 12:23 AM Post #342 |
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I have no other information to go on than I stated. 11% of all meat was halal in 2005. 12% of all criminals in 2009 were muslims. The 2001 census showed they were 3% of the population. I don't believe that 4 years later they were eating 2x as much meat as everyone else (allowing for other consumers of halal meat). We keep being told they are economically disadvantaged, so it would stand to reason they are eating less meat than average. Given the census figures from 2001, and the meat figures from 2005, it would stand to reason that by now the % of meat that is halal is closer to 20% Assuming they eat slightly less meat then average, and allowing for the meat used in restaurants, schools, etc. then it seems reasonable to me that they are 10% of the population. I thought I had run over this line of reasoning to the point of boring everyone. We'll know "the facts" in 2012. I fully expect a BNP government by 2015. Black people can then blame muslims for that, and muslims can blame themselves. I'll blame the Three Stooges for not having a spine between them. |
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| studio | Apr 17 2010, 12:27 AM Post #343 |
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The meat in the local cash and carry is very cheap, plus there are more kebab shops/take aways now, so a certain amount of the consumption is non muslim. I think Hollands also do a hala range for their pies. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 17 2010, 09:09 AM Post #344 |
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Some very interesting and in depth replies there which made for a lively debate . HS I fully realise that for you personally this fight really must drive straight to your heart in regards of your gender and what you must have overcome and witnessed as you have grown up as an openly gay man , however me being not gay gives me , rightly or wrongly a slightly differing angle on things which causes me to raise my eyebrows at some of the inclement action you would be willing to take against anyone who sees homosexually activity as dubious . To answer your vague assertion that I too am slightly uncomfortable around gay people then I will admit that yes sometimes I am but I would never let that affect my judgement on them as people , ever . Also to the bloke who seemed to equate what I had said as me being willing to see gay men executed in the street for merely being themselves ? Get a grip and have a word with yourself I thought that was plumbing the depths . I am far , far , far from a communist . |
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| lancashirelad | Apr 17 2010, 10:05 AM Post #345 |
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On the question 'how would i help muslims integrate' my answers simple i wouldnt. |
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| studio | Apr 17 2010, 10:43 AM Post #346 |
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My initial thoughts were along those lines as well. But as I sit here longer I see that moves have been made historically to allow integration... Now the questions is more Should we encourage more integration, and if so how? Should we leave the situation for now and see how it goes? or Should we reassess our actions historically, with mind to undo some as irrelevant due to lack of take up? I am for 3, but with a heavy dose of 1 |
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| Deleted User | Apr 17 2010, 10:51 AM Post #347 |
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OH DEARY ME.
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| studio | Apr 17 2010, 11:05 AM Post #348 |
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Pour qua Mrgarygibbon |
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 08:34 AM Post #349 |
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s**te answer that lad
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| Deleted User | Apr 18 2010, 12:03 PM Post #350 |
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I think that your own homophobia does prejudice you to be far more sympathetic to those who hate homos, than it does to homos who hate homophobes. Yet homos who hate homophobes are only acting in self-defence. The homophobes are the ones who are attacking the human rights of gay people. Let's take the example of Turkey. Turkey is considered to not even be a muslim country (constitutionally it is secular), and is seen as being one of the most western and most tolerant countries that has a predominantly muslim population. It (and many european leaders) think it should be in the EU. [Personally, I think it is likely to be a fully islamic state within 20 years.] The Turkish penal code does not mention homosexuality as an offence (nor does it provide any protection towards homosexuals). Ahmet Yildiz's father travelled across Turkey to wait outside his son's apartment so he could kill him, because Ahmet was known to be gay: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/was-ahmet-yildiz-the-victim-of-turkeys-first-gay-honour-killing-871822.html . [Whilst The Independent naively repeats that this is the first Turkish "honour killing", I've no doubt it isn't. It's just that the hundreds who have been killed by their backward families living to the east of Istanbul were not renowned in their own country for publicly championing gay rights. Their deaths will have been hushed up by the local police.] There have been 45 known homophobic murders in Turkey in the past 3 years: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/was-ahmet-yildiz-the-victim-of-turkeys-first-gay-honour-killing-871822.html . By comparison I can only think of 4 homophobic murders that occurred in the UK in the past 3 years (of course, I want the death penalty for the perpetrators of those 4 murders). You can't even explain away this massive discrepancy between Turkey and the UK by population difference (Turkey has about 14 million more people than the UK: http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&idim=country:TUR&dl=en&hl=en&q=turkey+population+statistics#met=sp_pop_totl&idim=country:TUR:GBR). Meanwhile, as the muslim population of London continues to spread eastwards, the number of homophobic crimes in those areas has gone up by almost 200% and most of the gay bars have closed down. In the only survey I know which asked gay people in east London about homophobia, it reported that only 34% of them were not afraid to go out at night, and many identified religious hatred (particularly islamic) as the cause of the violence. http://www.sigmaresearch.org.uk/go.php/reports/report2010a We know for a fact that 25% of mosques in the UK are selling literature calling for the execution of gay men. We know for a fact that there are muslim leaders in major mosques across the UK telling their followers that homos should be executed. We know for a fact that the MCB refuses to tackle homophobia in amongst muslim organizations. Is it any surprise that muslims take these attitudes out on homos they come across? I've documented elsewhere in this forum some of the vicious homophobic violence in east london (model left disfigured, gay man paralysed for life after being stabbed by 7 muslims, etc.). You belittle the threat to gay people from muslims ("sees homosexually activity as dubious"). The survey of muslims which I referenced earlier did not find one muslim who was tolerant - if a survey was carried out of EDL supporters and not one of them was tolerant towards muslims, you would once again be denouncing this group as right-wing and Nazis. How come you aren't denouncing all muslims as right-wing and Nazis? Why is it that muslims can be totally hostile to one group, but another group can't be totally hostile to muslims? |
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