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| How would you help Muslims intergrate? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 14 2010, 06:43 PM (2,285 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:31 PM Post #251 |
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Why should we go out of our way to help them integrate? the average Briton is very willing to work/live alongside anyone regardless of religion. So why should we go out of our way? this isn't our problem, its theres. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:33 PM Post #252 |
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You cant help people who don't want to help themselves. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:33 PM Post #253 |
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You got it. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:34 PM Post #254 |
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spot on ash |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:37 PM Post #255 |
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i think, we need to be clear .... the 42% that dont think its moral who are not moslim arent asking for gays to be killed .... now .... as for those that are moslim that do not accept homosexuality ... i suppose they would like to see gays treated as they are in iran .. hanged till they are dead .... This is the crux of the matter .....the majority of those moslims will happily see someone killed for being gay .... as for the non moslims who think homosexuality isn't moral ... i doubt that the majority of these would want to see a gay man or woman killed for their sexuality ... |
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| nemisis123456 | Apr 16 2010, 06:37 PM Post #256 |
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Islmaism is THE problem and its root cause is ISLAM itself. Until Islamic theology (the root cause of intolerance and hatred) is openly debated and managed properly then integration will never happen. No ideology is free from debate and any self respecting secular democracy should encourage it. For too long now its been about non Muslims accepting the Muslim religion, the Muslim culture and Islamic "morality" when the onus should be on MUSLIMS to integrate. Why should we facilitate those who hate us, our customs, our culture, our rule of law? We shouldn't! For too long we have tolerated intolerance, now its time to say NO! Fit in or fuck off! And I don't care if a Muslim was borne here either, if they want a theocractic barbaric 7th century shithole to live in then we as a nation should provide that by DEPORTING them. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:39 PM Post #257 |
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I don't have a problem with gay people at all. I was simply pointing out a error posted by HS claiming that Muslims are dragging down the levels in all three country's. If you look at the stats posted you can clearly see that's not the case for the UK at all. |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 06:43 PM Post #258 |
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Christians are just as mad...religion is for loons who are slightly retarded |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:44 PM Post #259 |
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I seen all your 6 posts now, you have give it away already. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:44 PM Post #260 |
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Your calling me slightly retarded? |
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| made in England | Apr 16 2010, 06:45 PM Post #261 |
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How can you know that figure is genuine when our own government has lost the plot regarding immigration figures. Our annual legal immigration influx since the reds have been in power has been aprox 275,000 most of them have been muslim asylum seekers and illegal figures have been considerably higher, so there goes your 2.8% theory. Besides you only have to take a look at most of our towns and cities theyre absolutely crawling with them |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 06:47 PM Post #262 |
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Give what away? I'm British, disillusioned with Islam and it's beliefs but am what you would can a non racist militant evolutionist . Is that ok? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:49 PM Post #263 |
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Lets see how long you stay here then. Your posts are obviously baiting for a reaction. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:52 PM Post #264 |
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Globos, from what ive seen of your very short life span here is you get defensive about someone elses opinion, yes we know gay people are not an issue, no one is watching to see who the good guy is, there are no brownie points. But to say all religions are slightly retarded is bang out of order, and in essence.. racist. You should think of wording things better and stop being so defensive on others opinions. |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 06:53 PM Post #265 |
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How? What have i said wrong.....reactions like this will only create a cloud over the intentions of this place. I'm free to speak my mind and i'm strongly of the Believe that religion is a poison and is primitive. it as no place in a modern progressive society. See Richard Dawkins to reference if you fail to "get me" |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 06:55 PM Post #266 |
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Firstly Religion is not race....it served a purpose for it's time but mankind has learned enough to totally dismiss all this "fairies in the garden" stuff. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:57 PM Post #267 |
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Definitions of racist on the Web: * based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" * a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others * discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=define%3Aracist&btnG=Search&meta= |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:57 PM Post #268 |
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Can't argue with that. |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 06:58 PM Post #269 |
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The covering of the head,the halal and lots of other stuff form all religions is a personal thing and has no right in the way of other peoples live here if we want to call ourselves an educated people |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 06:58 PM Post #270 |
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Maybe not, but in the eyes of law race & religion tie together. |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 07:01 PM Post #271 |
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Wrong..if i said i believed in blue three tited ferrets who drive spaceships here to buy penny sweets from Kwick Save and was one of a few believers in this country and have seen them would you be racist to call me nuts? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 07:01 PM Post #272 |
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I agree with you on that. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 07:03 PM Post #273 |
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Too claim that all religions are slightly retarded is wrong, maybe I worded it wrong with racist but it is still wrong. But in the eyes of the law it would be classed as racist regardless, would it not? |
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| Capt Haddock | Apr 16 2010, 07:04 PM Post #274 |
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I agree 100%. The problem is the Muslims view this country as future Muslim land. Why should they both to integrate when the loopy left bows to their every whim? Muslims do not intend to integrate, simply because Islam is not compatible with democracy. Look at all the s**t they are causing in Tower Hamlets now they have sufficient numbers, I fear for this country's future, I really do.
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 07:05 PM Post #275 |
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That is where we are wrong...i've looked into all the major religions and they are out there...no rational human being can't fall for such nonsense in 2010 |
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| Karif-Chris | Apr 16 2010, 07:06 PM Post #276 |
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If a million French can be made to leave Algeria I'm sure in this day and age 3 million mulsims wouldn't take too long to deport. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 07:06 PM Post #277 |
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"they are out there" ? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 07:08 PM Post #278 |
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What? |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 07:09 PM Post #279 |
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I had Mormons round the house before and the two lads believed point blank that the world is 6000 years old, in Noah's ark,Adam and Eve, and all sorts of nonsense...they even said Dinosaur bones was put there to test our faith. Help me please
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 07:11 PM Post #280 |
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Its upto anyone to decide what they believe, if they believe it then thats fine, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else/ force their beliefs on anyone else. If they keep to their beliefs quietly and not in our faces, then who are we to judge? |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 07:12 PM Post #281 |
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They are knocking doors.... |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 07:12 PM Post #282 |
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Close the door then, simple as. |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 07:19 PM Post #283 |
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Would you accept Muslim or Jewish or Buddhist door knockers..i'm sure the forums would go into melt down. It's all the same to me...enough. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 07:21 PM Post #284 |
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If i didn't want to speak to someone or didn't share the same beliefs I'd just close the door and get on with it. I dont believe in what they do, that doesn't mean their retarded.
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 07:21 PM Post #285 |
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Exactly! They can believe in what they like, but don`t try and force me to believe. And if they knock my door - the dogs can answer it.
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 07:52 PM Post #286 |
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sorry, could you quote the post where I made the assumption YOU were a racist please. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 08:09 PM Post #287 |
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I have argued on this forum many times that "the facts" suggest that the muslim population of the UK is far more than 2.8%. I can't be bothered to dig out the URLs (search for "muslim population halal prison", that should find the URLs). In 2009 muslims were 12% of the prison population. In 2005 11% of all meat in the UK was halal. I have it on good authority (an interim census) that the muslim population of York went up from 2.4% in 2001, to 10% by 2009. (This is an unpublished report, so I can't give a URL for it). I was not saying that the chart shows that 90% of the non-muslim population of the UK was tolerant of homosexuality. I said that my understanding of this report was that the muslims were included in with the general public. As such, they pull down the figure for general levels of tolerance. It is just a matter of degree. For you, they are pulling that down by less than 3 percentage points . On the evidence I cite, I say they are pulling it down by 10 percentage points. I don't expect everyone to read all the verbiage I spew on here. But personally I don't believe that muslims are really so much more criminal than the rest of the population, that they would be 3x over-represented in the prison statistics. I find it far more plausible to believe they are actually here in greater numbers. I was not trying to mislead anyone. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 08:21 PM Post #288 |
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Didn't think you were trying to mislead any one, just pointing out that according to official figures Muslims in the UK could only effect the figures by 2.8%. |
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 08:21 PM Post #289 |
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Crap criminals, drug dealers and insurance fraudsters. What would you estimate the pop at? 5% - 6%? Edited by studio, Apr 16 2010, 08:22 PM.
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 08:28 PM Post #290 |
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Funny thing is that I probably agree with globos, but I'm not a condescending cunt. I prefer decent people with different views than arseholes with similar views. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 08:35 PM Post #291 |
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Hey comrade Henchman. When was the last time you saw this in Jamaica? or any catholic or Christian country? ![]() This is ISLAMIC justice. Over 90% of brainwashed Muslims, including your two girls from Kurdistan, tacitly support the introduction of this into our lands. You should hang your head in shame for trying that one. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 08:45 PM Post #292 |
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some good posts- back to the title of the thread How would you help Muslims intergrate? im with anxiety86 , they dont want to,simple as that. end of. theyre at war with us. demographic war, anyone doesnt believe that hs their head stuck up heir ass. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 08:46 PM Post #293 |
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wrong person |
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| globos | Apr 16 2010, 08:49 PM Post #294 |
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Homosexuals are just that Homosexuals and that's it..if people want to bring god and sin into it then they are nuts and disagree with scientific fact on their sexuality. But then again they don't agree with science because they are religious and therefore dismiss most of the findings |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 08:50 PM Post #295 |
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whats he done? stole a loaf of bread or refused to marry an 8 year old? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 08:58 PM Post #296 |
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I think some muslim lads certainly want to integrate with everyone else. The lads I went to school with did. But I don't know (and should've asked about) the cultural and community pressures of not integrating. I'm sure there is a ton of peer and other sorts of pressure. If I was them, I would just dump it and be with people who actually care about them, not with people who want them to conform to a stringent doctrine. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:03 PM Post #297 |
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They were hung for being gay. I was responding to comrade Henchmans post. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:08 PM Post #298 |
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I agree. Dump it because Qur'an says they are going to the hell fire anyway. They may as well embrace humanity and enjoy the life they have here with the rest of us
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| kaimana1 | Apr 16 2010, 09:08 PM Post #299 |
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Peter you made your point with those images. Unfortunately, some of the proleteriet still wont understand! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 09:09 PM Post #300 |
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Just cuz Henchman has a different view to you doesn't mean he's a commie, which I assume the 'comrade' title is aiming at? That's fucking immature at best. |
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