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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 14 2010, 06:43 PM (2,287 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 10:47 PM Post #151 |
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Ah I thought not. I think its because the word/link is not highlighted so it looks like part of the text
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 10:47 PM Post #152 |
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read post 143 peter i took it he was no she was calling you a wanker if im wrong i apologize |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 10:51 PM Post #153 |
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I am using the ex.ivion ll skin so the link is red. I am also all man, maybe not well endowed but big enough to fill a pram as they say this side of watford |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 10:55 PM Post #154 |
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That'll be it. Im using zeta original and it not showing up highlighted for me. Thats a bit of an annoying bug? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 10:55 PM Post #155 |
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do you wanna answer my question posted earlier |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:02 PM Post #156 |
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I've got nothing against the different cultures in this country, the majority do try to intergrate but the question is 'how would I help muslims intergrate?', I wouldn't as I want them the hell out of MY country |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:06 PM Post #157 |
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I think this was the answer I gave, or was it a different question? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:11 PM Post #158 |
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what religion were these cowardly attacks done under |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:14 PM Post #159 |
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ah, thought so. I refer you to my previous answer. Terrorism is not the sole preserve of islam. But I take it you believe every single Muslim has a Semtex vest for when the right day comes |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:17 PM Post #160 |
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I wouldn't go that far. I have a few friends who are what would be described as 'moderate Muslim' on here. The difference is, they no longer keep up the pretence anymore, they just admit that they are apostates and are fine with it. The only thing we need to do is create a safe haven for them, NOT perpetuate the problem and make things more difficult for them to exit. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:18 PM Post #161 |
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ok ill say it them attacks were done in the name of islam as you cant say it. no i dont think every muslim owns a semtex vest.i think a lot agree with it not all but a lot islam justifies it its called jihad. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:19 PM Post #162 |
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Studio, do you believe that Islamic extremism stops at the gates of terrorism and bombings? What about tacit support and condoning of pedophilia? Or the criminalisation and execution of gays? |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:22 PM Post #163 |
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No Peter, not by any means. Forced Niqab/burka wearing, homophobia, lack of free speech etc etc. wow you can edit quick... Edited by studio, Apr 15 2010, 11:22 PM.
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:24 PM Post #164 |
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London TERRORISM IN THE NAME OF ISLAM ok for you? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:24 PM Post #165 |
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OK, maybe I was a bit harsh, but if the moderate muslims want to live here and live side by side with us, fine, so let them stand up and be counted, let them shout out that this is a Christian country with history, culture, values, let them shout out that they don't want to take over and want to abide by our laws. If they do that, great, I'll be happy for them to stay and live in peace with them, but while they stay quiet and shy away, then to hell with them |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:26 PM Post #166 |
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Peter, what would a muslim who said he didn't want shar'ia law publicly be classed as under islam? just wondered in answer to Ali12 post
Edited by studio, Apr 15 2010, 11:27 PM.
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:27 PM Post #167 |
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The magic words! These are the only weapons we need. And while at times, for a muslim, when exposing their beloved nabi, they will be more painful that a bullet to the guts, we have to be able to use them whenever we can or want without being branded a bigot or a racist.
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:32 PM Post #168 |
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well i dont agree with terrorism in the name of islam i dont like the fact one of my friends had to leave his country of birth because of islam i think halal is barbaric complete hatred and murdering of homos in the name of islam pedophilia accepted in islam picking on porkie because they couldnt clean or cook properly 1300 years ago the persection of coptic christins in egypt which is allowed to happen the list is endless and then we have silly people shout out you islamophobe how pathetic |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:32 PM Post #169 |
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My earlier term Bigot was in reference to those who refuse to accept that there are 'moderate' muslims, seeking to destroy them en mass. Edited by studio, Apr 15 2010, 11:34 PM.
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:33 PM Post #170 |
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An apostate. The Shari'ah is an integral component of Islam. Under a Khalifah he would be hounded just as a kafir would be. Ruling by Man made laws - Al-Hukm Bil-Kufr: Allah (swt) says: "..Whoever does not rule by what Allah has revealed, they are the oppressors.." [Q 5:45] |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:35 PM Post #171 |
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So when Choudry and the rest of the twatts stand and preach their bile, what can a western muslim do about it? |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:37 PM Post #172 |
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Oh, and I would not help them integrate, we have gone far enough. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:38 PM Post #173 |
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a moderate muslim who reads the koran reads how we the kuffar are no more than pigs and apes thanks thats a nice thing to call me. what have i done to you and you insult me or your book of hatred does |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:40 PM Post #174 |
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Come to terms with the fact that they are sincerely proclaiming and practising their deen for the sake of Allah as pious Muslims. Every true Muslim has a duty and an obligation to make sure the world comes to accept the shari'ah |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:40 PM Post #175 |
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So basically, what is being said, is that we have to fight this out to try and stop this country becoming an islamic one with no help from these 'moderate muslims', we do the fighting, we do the shouting, the marching, spending our money to go across the country on demos, we have to make the difference while they carry on living their cushy little lives, going about their business etc etc and hopefully, when we succeed in our mission, they then say 'Oh well, we always agreed with you but didn't dare speak out, but thanks anyway'...............bull |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:42 PM Post #176 |
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True, but a lot just go to mosque on friday lunch then get back to their western way of life. They no more want sharia than we do, but they cant stand up and shout that can they. in answer to Peter Edited by studio, Apr 15 2010, 11:43 PM.
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:45 PM Post #177 |
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In essence yes, but it gets easier if they dont feel that they are tarred with the same brush as the other twats. Thats why I look like some uaf wanker on here, because I dont want these guys retreating back into islam as a defence mechanism. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:47 PM Post #178 |
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I believe that most decent muslims would be horrified to learn the facts about Muhammad. All their lives they have been taught that he is the uswa e hasana - a perfect example of a human being to emulate. If we could get documentaries out on mainstream TV networks with scholars and ex-muslims using the most authentic sources and texts, they will exit in their hundreds of thousands. Then we will have a better chance of identifying the fanatics. |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:50 PM Post #179 |
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I think that comes after the choudrys have been moved on Peter, at the moment it would just be seen as another western attack on islam, further re-enforcing their faith |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:51 PM Post #180 |
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If there's more moderates thanextremists, then I'm sorry but they have no excuse for their silence |
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| Deleted User | Apr 15 2010, 11:57 PM Post #181 |
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What do you mean by "further re-enforcing their faith"? |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:57 PM Post #182 |
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but to say'we dont want' goes against the main tennets(?) of the religion.. thats the problem |
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| studio | Apr 15 2010, 11:59 PM Post #183 |
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Encourages them into the defence of islam, sorry, I cant write the way I think, mind wanders
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:01 AM Post #184 |
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You would be surprised just how much power the minority have over the majority. Especially when they have the scriptures and texts on their side. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:03 AM Post #185 |
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So what are your thoughts on a person who wants to defend and condone child rape/pedophilia? ha, just noticed. cool avitar btw!
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 12:07 AM Post #186 |
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Wankers. But how many of the western 3gen muslims actually do? This is where it does get difficult, error of way without putting backs to the wall. I am open to suggestions for the many chats I have, 3 today, on what islam means to them. |
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 12:09 AM Post #187 |
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Used by a damn fine, if extremely f**ked up , band. Plus its origin is nice thanks |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:11 AM Post #188 |
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Well. personally, I wouldn't keep quiet if I were them. I'm not being quiet now, I'm standing up for what I believe and believe me, I feel like the bloody minority at times |
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 12:13 AM Post #189 |
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Peter hit the nail though Ali12, it really is not that easy in their culture/religion....
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:19 AM Post #190 |
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This goes back to what I was saying earlier about creating the protection and a way for those who want to exit like my friends without the stigma and persecution. It would be exponential but the first wave will be difficult. I don't profess to have all the answers but this seems the most sensible way forward. The other options are too painful to contemplate. I have personally witnessed a few apostasy exits after literally months of back & forth debates with muslims so I know it can work. We just need to do it on a larger scale. |
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| studio | Apr 16 2010, 12:20 AM Post #191 |
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true, its the way we go about it Bed for me, thanks for the convo, see you tomoz Respect iain |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:25 AM Post #192 |
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I know but they need to find a way before this gets any worse as they will be prsecuted, people will not differentiate between the moderates and the extremists, they will just see them all as one |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:27 AM Post #193 |
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I agree that's why time is of the essence. @ iain: me too cheers mate. |
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| steve johns | Apr 16 2010, 12:33 AM Post #194 |
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Spot on fella,theres two kinds of Muslim.Those that want to take our country by force and those that are content to sit back and outbreed us.Thus leaving a legacy for their Grand Kids.They can go *uck, its our country for our Grand Kids. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:34 AM Post #195 |
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I don't really know any muslims, if I did, I would be having a chat with them about it all. I only know one but don't really talk to her, she was a good friend years ago but as we got older, our lives led us in different directions. She ended up marrying a muslim, I know when her kids were younger, everyone in the village was fuming as the father had taken the children out of school for a few weeks to take them to Pakistan, but it was said you shouldn't take your kids out of school to have a holiday, you had to do that in the school holidays. Again, one rule blah blah blah, Grrrrrrrrr I feel so bloody angry about all this crap going on |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:36 AM Post #196 |
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I have to say here that the friend who married a muslim was bought up a Christian, I went through school with her, she converted when she married him. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:46 AM Post #197 |
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The word "Islamophobia" implies an irrational fear or hatred of Islam. There is nothing irrational about fearing something that wants to destroy you and your family. Therefore, the word Islamophobia is an oxymoron. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:50 AM Post #198 |
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Do they??? Blimey! Glad you cleared that one up. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:57 AM Post #199 |
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And craziness. Never underestimate the power of craziness in a fight. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 16 2010, 12:59 AM Post #200 |
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And the latest contender for a fatwah is..... |
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These are the only weapons we need. And while at times, for a muslim, when exposing their beloved nabi, they will be more painful that a bullet to the guts, we have to be able to use them whenever we can or want without being branded a bigot or a racist.
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