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How would you help Muslims intergrate?
Topic Started: Apr 14 2010, 06:43 PM (2,288 Views)
kaimana1
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peterpedant
Apr 15 2010, 04:47 PM
kaimana1
Apr 15 2010, 04:31 PM
H.S SPOT ON!! Great list.
however ,this one "Replace the head of religious programming at the BBC with an atheist."
LOL :D might have problems some atheists are just as biased and militant as those far right wing christians. your point is understood but perhaps an agnostic wouldbe a better choice!
What do you think?
Or a Malsian? ;)
;) A malsian would be an excellent choice for the head of religious programming at the bbc you would surely have a well balanced view of islam then from the bbcs perspective :D
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Its not up to us to help them intergrate they should be doing that themselves n if they dont want to then why come here in the first place if it isnt to colonise this country.
A minority do intergrate but the majority want eff all to do with us.
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Apr 15 2010, 11:42 AM
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Apr 15 2010, 07:41 AM
Alot of bigoted people on here who are merely reinforcing what the far left would love the world to hear . Grow up .
And a lot of short sighted people on here merely spouting what the far left would love to hear. Wake up.



“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
– Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN

"There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without swords, without guns, without conquest. we don't need terrorists, we don't need homicide bombers. The 50+ million Muslims [in Europe] will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."
– Muammar Gaddafi, Dictator of Libya

"“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world.”
– Ayatollah Khomeini, Supreme Leader of Iran

""Have no doubt... Allah willing, Islam will conquer what? It will conquer all the mountain tops of the world."
– Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran

“The whole of Europe will become Islamic. Like the army of the sultan we will conquer Rome.”
− Former Turkish Prime Minister Necmettin Erbakan, June 2002

“We must be very realistic and positive. What needs to be done? What we need is for the 30 million Muslims in Europe to infiltrate (society) and to show European and Western societies how respectable and successful they are. Those are the key words: "I am respectable and successful." If the 30 million Muslims manage to ignore these provocations, and to channel their anger in support of the Prophet Muhammad and of Islam, into becoming walking propaganda machines. Each person should say "I am an ambassador for Islam," and they should all take action throughout Europe − in the companies where they work, in sports clubs, and in any place where they can mingle and fit in with the Europeans, and where they can show them their moral values and their success. That will abolish the plan, and the muslims will remain in Europe. We really need ten years for the muslims in Europe to become firmly established and very successful.” - Amr Khaled (a muslim preacher) describing the takeover of Europe by muslims on Egyptian television in 2007.

We also have a Muslim MP at the Labour party, Shahid Malik, who is calling for more Muslim MP's and eventually a Muslim Prime Minister.
:amen:
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I stand fully behind my statement and then some as I have met some complete balloons at demonstrations especially at Dudley . So once again for all you far right tickturds and Nazis that ARE reading this and whipping yourselves up into a " Send em back " frenzy , kindly take your racist views and shove them where the sun doesnt shine . This is a movement against MILITANT ISLAM and its teachings NOT against Islam full stop .
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Apr 15 2010, 05:24 PM
I stand fully behind my statement and then some as I have met some complete balloons at demonstrations especially at Dudley . So once again for all you far right tickturds and Nazis that ARE reading this and whipping yourselves up into a " Send em back " frenzy , kindly take your racist views and shove them where the sun doesnt shine . This is a movement against MILITANT ISLAM and its teachings NOT against Islam full stop .
Is Islam a race?
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No it is not it is a religion that is followed by black . brown , yellow & white faces the world over . Want to ask another blatantly ludicrous question ?
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henchman
Apr 15 2010, 05:31 PM
No it is not it is a religion that is followed by black . brown , yellow & white faces the world over . Want to ask another blatantly ludicrous question ?
How can you class me racist?
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Apr 15 2010, 05:24 PM
I stand fully behind my statement and then some as I have met some complete balloons at demonstrations especially at Dudley . So once again for all you far right tickturds and Nazis that ARE reading this and whipping yourselves up into a " Send em back " frenzy , kindly take your racist views and shove them where the sun doesnt shine . This is a movement against MILITANT ISLAM and its teachings NOT against Islam full stop .
Are you saying that you met nazis at the edl demo?

Also what teachings do militant muslims follow?
It wouldnt by any chance be the teachings of AMIN IBN ABD'ALLAH (MUHAMMED) would it?
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Apr 15 2010, 05:24 PM
I stand fully behind my statement and then some as I have met some complete balloons at demonstrations especially at Dudley . So once again for all you far right tickturds and Nazis that ARE reading this and whipping yourselves up into a " Send em back " frenzy , kindly take your racist views and shove them where the sun doesnt shine . This is a movement against MILITANT ISLAM and its teachings NOT against Islam full stop .
Nazi's and racists?? Are you sure you are not supposed to be on the searchlight forum?

Read my post #90 again. How loudly does Islam have to shout into your ear before you remove your head from the sand?

Islam and its teachings are MILITANT in case you haven't noticed. You are getting confused with moderate Muslims mate.

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Apr 15 2010, 03:43 PM
I see them spitting on the street all the time (no wonder we have a massive resurgence of TB in muslim-dominated parts of England). The number of burka-clad women has risen massively.
Sounds just like where I live, Somalians spitting all over the place.

As for what should be done to help Muslims integrate

1. Stop the building of any new mosques.

2. All Korans should be translated into English and the violent bits that promote Jihad, violence, Anti Semitism and repression women removed.

3. All Imans should be government licensed.

4. All Islamic literature that promotes violence, torture and the repression of women banned and anyone caught with it severely dealt with by the law.

5. Close all Shraia courts and make it clear to them that it's one law for all.

6. Total ban on Burkas and face coverings in public, and stop forcing headscarfs on children.

7. Make Polygamy illegal. Muslims should have to have a proper legal marriage, so the women have the same legal rights as all other women in this country.

8. All hate preachers should be deported immidietly, and if they are born here locked up for a very long time and not released until they are no longer a risk to the public.

9. Stop pissing the non Muslims off by forcing halal food on us.

10. Stop being so fucking sensitive about there religion.
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Integration is being prevented by the Mosque elders who import imams from abroad to prevent muslim children from becoming "Too British".
In the face of that resistance, (and the insult that it represents, imho), no answer can be given that does not involve forcing our culture upon these people.

But given the right to be a bit of a bastard for a while, I would say the whole Mosque system needs a bloody good looking at, from it's fundamentalist stewardship to it's status as Dar es salaam in a country declared Dar es Harb.

EDIT: What previous poster says is spot on.
Edited by Jeggie, Apr 15 2010, 07:04 PM.
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Apr 15 2010, 05:24 PM
I stand fully behind my statement and then some as I have met some complete balloons at demonstrations especially at Dudley . So once again for all you far right tickturds and Nazis that ARE reading this and whipping yourselves up into a " Send em back " frenzy , kindly take your racist views and shove them where the sun doesnt shine . This is a movement against MILITANT ISLAM and its teachings NOT against Islam full stop .
The Labour government (who I voted for in the last election) have got us into this s**t. And even they, in Contest2 in Feb 2009, wanted to make islamic homophobia the equivalent of islamic extremism. Muslims said "that would make us all extremists". The Gallup survey quoted by me above showed that it does indeed make them all extremists.

Many of us are not saying "send them back". We're saying they need to be taught the truth about their religion, and encouraged to leave it.

And I don't know where you have been on these demos, but you're another one I have my doubts about. You have an avatar picture of some tough-looking white man, and a nickname that connotes criminal violence, yet you were more disturbed by the Dudley demo than any of the nancy boys in the gay group.

After being on the last 3 demos I haven't seen this group of nazi nutters you claim to have seen. I've spent the equivalent of about 24 hours in the company of several hundred EDL supporters at three different demos. And I don't recognize the people you're talking about. The people I've met have mostly been working-class and rough. They've always been very friendly and polite. So are you referring to some small minority? What behaviour at what demos?

And before anyone thinks I've got some middle-class romantic view of the working-class. I spent years in remedial education at a secondary school, with really hard head cases. Several of my brothers have been to prison, one of them is illiterate, the other was a drug addict and alcoholic. I've lived my whole life in working class areas. I'm gay but I'm not soft. Maybe "henchman" is of a more delicate disposition.

When a group of people who are as anti-gay as UK muslims end up with political power, you can be damned sure they will be sending gay people to prison or to the gallows. Just like the Nazis did. Only this group think they've got God on their side.

There hasn't been a survey yet that asks these anti-gay muslims what they think should be done about gay men. But if 36% believe apostates should be killed, I'm pretty sure that many or more believe that homosexuals should be killed. Maybe that question was asked, but whoever commissioned the survey decided they'd better not let that information out.

I don't know what you think your fighting for in EDL, but I'm fighting for my life. So forgive me if I don't mince my words, or don't get upset at the idea of someone saying "send them back". At least 36% of us aren't calling for them to be executed.
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Apr 15 2010, 05:37 PM
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Apr 15 2010, 05:31 PM
No it is not it is a religion that is followed by black . brown , yellow & white faces the world over . Want to ask another blatantly ludicrous question ?
How can you class me racist?
When in doubt pull out the race card.
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lets just send them to saudi arabia, they'd integrate well there
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Apr 15 2010, 07:05 PM
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Apr 15 2010, 05:37 PM
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Apr 15 2010, 05:31 PM
No it is not it is a religion that is followed by black . brown , yellow & white faces the world over . Want to ask another blatantly ludicrous question ?
How can you class me racist?
When in doubt pull out the race card.
Whos in doubt here?
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Apr 15 2010, 07:09 PM
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Apr 15 2010, 07:05 PM
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Apr 15 2010, 05:37 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
When in doubt pull out the race card.
Whos in doubt here?
Ok let me rephrase...

When you don't like what people think or their opinions call them racist. It's UAF tactics.

I was on about Henchman, he don't like what has been said, so he says we have racist views, obviouslywants to call us nazis.

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Apr 15 2010, 07:05 PM
henchman
Apr 15 2010, 05:24 PM
I stand fully behind my statement and then some as I have met some complete balloons at demonstrations especially at Dudley . So once again for all you far right tickturds and Nazis that ARE reading this and whipping yourselves up into a " Send em back " frenzy , kindly take your racist views and shove them where the sun doesnt shine . This is a movement against MILITANT ISLAM and its teachings NOT against Islam full stop .
The Labour government (who I voted for in the last election) have got us into this s**t. And even they, in Contest2 in Feb 2009, wanted to make islamic homophobia the equivalent of islamic extremism. Muslims said "that would make us all extremists". The Gallup survey quoted by me above showed that it does indeed make them all extremists.

Many of us are not saying "send them back". We're saying they need to be taught the truth about their religion, and encouraged to leave it.

And I don't know where you have been on these demos, but you're another one I have my doubts about. You have an avatar picture of some tough-looking white man, and a nickname that connotes criminal violence, yet you were more disturbed by the Dudley demo than any of the nancy boys in the gay group.

After being on the last 3 demos I haven't seen this group of nazi nutters you claim to have seen. I've spent the equivalent of about 24 hours in the company of several hundred EDL supporters at three different demos. And I don't recognize the people you're talking about. The people I've met have mostly been working-class and rough. They've always been very friendly and polite. So are you referring to some small minority? What behaviour at what demos?

And before anyone thinks I've got some middle-class romantic view of the working-class. I spent years in remedial education at a secondary school, with really hard head cases. Several of my brothers have been to prison, one of them is illiterate, the other was a drug addict and alcoholic. I've lived my whole life in working class areas. I'm gay but I'm not soft. Maybe "henchman" is of a more delicate disposition.

When a group of people who are as anti-gay as UK muslims end up with political power, you can be damned sure they will be sending gay people to prison or to the gallows. Just like the Nazis did. Only this group think they've got God on their side.

There hasn't been a survey yet that asks these anti-gay muslims what they think should be done about gay men. But if 36% believe apostates should be killed, I'm pretty sure that many or more believe that homosexuals should be killed. Maybe that question was asked, but whoever commissioned the survey decided they'd better not let that information out.

I don't know what you think your fighting for in EDL, but I'm fighting for my life. So forgive me if I don't mince my words, or don't get upset at the idea of someone saying "send them back". At least 36% of us aren't calling for them to be executed.
HS needs to be put forward on some of the press stuff,like the talk sport arguments etc (pref the ian collins type stuff , ones who actually lets you speak).
i cant see anyone defeating his arguements to be honest and theyre all backed up by facts.

pmsl at the 'nancy boys in the gay group' :D

haha classic.
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Apr 15 2010, 03:43 PM
Remind us again, has anyone on this forum or on the facebook group ever met you? If you really think that muslims are so well-integrated, and so few support sharia, why are you even on this forum? Surely you think that EDL is so massively mistaken, you wouldn't be wasting your time? Why don't just come out and admit you are a muslim? Why the deception? Do you think your work will be easier if we think you are not a muslim?
Any of the Bolton EDL on? pm me and come check out my colour!!!

Why no demos? because I aint a bigot. I hate choudry et al, but I aint gonna stop a mans religion. but just for you,religion has got a lot to answer for..
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so studio are you saying that everyone that goes to a demo is a bigot
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Not at all, but some are. I am not comfortable with the way this place is at times, but its a damn side nearer than muppet land to wear I sit. I just cant hate the common law standard Muslim, they don't all follow the Koran to the letter... as H_S famous survey shows.
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Apr 15 2010, 08:38 PM
so studio are you saying that everyone that goes to a demo is a bigot
Did he just call us Bigots? How childish.
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Apr 15 2010, 08:46 PM
Not at all, but some are.....
What, the ones who have a legitimate reason to hold a negative view on Islam; ALL of it?
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its like throwing in the towel. here we go another i think im clever git ends with o your such bigots when he is educated about islam.
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Not at all, Just not seen the education yet. I Understand the EDL are about militan muslim, yet repeatedly all I see is islamaphobia. Clutching at straws to prove how bad they are, even if it bears little or nothing to do with the UK..

But please continue, still here Sir
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Studio some of us don't like Islam, if you have a problem go and cry it off at Indymedia maybe?
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all the terrorist attacks are commited in the name of ?
answer please
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Apr 15 2010, 09:10 PM
Not at all, Just not seen the education yet. I Understand the EDL are about militan muslim, yet repeatedly all I see is islamaphobia. Clutching at straws to prove how bad they are, even if it bears little or nothing to do with the UK..

But please continue, still here Sir
That depends on your definition of islamophobia.
Please Explain the clutching at straws part ?
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Not at all, Just not seen the education yet. I Understand the EDL are about militan muslim, yet repeatedly all I see is islamaphobia. Clutching at straws to prove how bad they are, even if it bears little or nothing to do with the UK..

But please continue, still here Sir
How about you go back and read Post #92 then come back here and tell us what your mates said?

Seems thats the only way your going to get educated if you ask me.
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Studio says "even if it bears little or nothing to do with the UK.."

Like in birmingham and east london? that is islam.
In small numbers the muslims are great, but when their numbers are big enough they begin making demands that are in accordance with sharia law. one of the best ways to combat militant islam is to educate muslims about islam if the list of guidelines that homosapien put forth were followed i am convinced that a flood of muslims would apostacize.
Seriously think about it.
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kaimana you bigot you :) H,S. another bigot PP another one o and most of all me studio i loudly say your full of doo doo and rather than being a bigot your a FOOL
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Apr 15 2010, 09:21 PM
"one of the best ways to combat militant islam is to educate muslims about islam if the list of guidelines that homosapien put forth were followed i am convinced that a flood of muslims would apostacize.
Seriously think about it.
I agree. Muslims are the first victims of Islam, to liberate them from this religion is the best service that one can render them.
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has he given up wasnt much of a debate.
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Apr 15 2010, 09:27 PM
kaimana you bigot you :) H,S. another bigot PP another one o and most of all me studio i loudly say your full of doo doo and rather than being a bigot your a FOOL
I suppose we are muslim racist nazis. :unsure:
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and rednecks
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Apr 15 2010, 09:58 PM
and rednecks
I stand corrected :D yes rednecks.
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studio is still watching thats an hour now just watching not saying a thing
and still hasnt answered my question. 9/11 london indonesia madrid turkey, the american army base jihad jane what is the name of the religion these cowardly attacks were done in ?????????????????
sorry if i have forgotten any. or have failed to mention the numerous failed attempts to blow up innocent people
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Sorry London, Peter asked me to do some reading so I am... Quite disturbing (some of the attempts at 'the age is wrong, she was this old..' are quite funny though - accountants arithmetic where no mater what you earn you do not have to pay tax) and I defy anybody to justifie it.

But why go all the way back to Mo when this wanker does the work for you...

still reading
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Oh, and dont forget Tim Parry and Jonathan Ball in your list of terror victims
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Apr 15 2010, 10:22 PM
Sorry London, Peter asked me to do some reading so I am... Quite disturbing (some of the attempts at 'the age is wrong, she was this old..' are quite funny though - accountants arithmetic where no mater what you earn you do not have to pay tax) and I defy anybody to justifie it.

But why go all the way back to Mo when this wanker does the work for you...

still reading
are you talking in some kind of babble code here
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Apr 14 2010, 11:31 PM
Make it illegal to marry another muslim from outside this country, no bringing in wife's or husbands in.
1 land 1 law
Higher taxes for muslim men
English born imams
Converting to islam illigal
The truth taught in schools
Regardless of how devious, and horrible Islam is.

You cannot stop people from practising their religion.
I fail to see where it says anything about stopping people from practicing their religion, please highlight it for me.
Converting to islam illigal

You're preventing from people to practise their chosen religion.
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Apr 15 2010, 10:14 PM
studio is still watching thats an hour now just watching not saying a thing
and still hasnt answered my question. 9/11 london indonesia madrid turkey, the american army base jihad jane what is the name of the religion these cowardly attacks were done in ?????????????????
sorry if i have forgotten any. or have failed to mention the numerous failed attempts to blow up innocent people
Before we even think of trying to integrate Muslims into our society, I think they should all be forced to take a de-islamification programme, just like the Nazi's were made to do. f**kin Islamofascist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification
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are you talking in some kind of babble code here
sorry, seemed like simple English to me
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Apr 15 2010, 10:22 PM
Sorry London, Peter asked me to do some reading so I am... Quite disturbing (some of the attempts at 'the age is wrong, she was this old..' are quite funny though - accountants arithmetic where no mater what you earn you do not have to pay tax) and I defy anybody to justifie it.

But why go all the way back to Mo when this wanker does the work for you...

still reading
I think you will find the two sahih's are explicitly clear on Aishas age. At least that's what I assume you were referring to?
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not to me what are you implying
still havent answered my question
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the wanker in red is a link.... from som c**t saying its fine
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peter did he call you a wanker ? so he has called you a bigot and a wanker why because you dont agree with him sounds like facism to me
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Apr 15 2010, 10:41 PM
peter i did he call you a wanker ? so he has called you a bigot and a wanker why because you dont agree with him sounds like facism to me
Im not sure? Studio, did you just call me a wanker?
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previous post Peter, and if I want to call somebody there will be no miss interpretation.
Edited by studio, Apr 15 2010, 10:44 PM.
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spitefull little girl arent you studio
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lol
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