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| How would you help Muslims intergrate? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 14 2010, 06:43 PM (2,281 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 06:43 PM Post #1 |
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As a sympithier to the larger muslim population who are well intergrated into our society and dont ask for the world to be rearranged for them, What can be done to help muslims intergrate in western civlisation? What would be your top 5 policies in order to help them intergrate in Britain? 1. All UK laws should be a blanket for ALL citizens living here regardless of creed, colour, religoin and culture and will not be changed in order to suit anybody. 2. All UK mosques and Islamic centers MUST fly the Union jack aswell as the flag of Islam 3. Burkas will be banned in public buildings (just like balaclavas are). 4. Money from other govenments/groups and Islamic charities cannot be accepted in the funcing of Mosques and other islamic centers unless the oranisation in question isnt seen to be 'extreme'. 5. Some Islamic traditions will be banned from public/domestic practices if it is seen to discriminate or threaten intergration. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 06:52 PM Post #2 |
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They don't want any of that, they want everything how they want it to be. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 06:53 PM Post #3 |
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Corrected it for you. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 06:54 PM Post #4 |
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Those policies are very reasonable, Spireite, but it shows what hard-liners some of these people can be by not even budging an inch. Do people in the UK still shit their pants about the Union Jack? I passed my local garage today. Exxon (Esso) run by a Muslim guy with a couple of Pakistani mechanics and two more, an African American and a Guatemalan. They proudly fly the Stars and Stripes out front. |
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| studio | Apr 14 2010, 06:54 PM Post #5 |
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1. All UK laws should be a blanket for ALL citizens living here regardless of creed, colour, religoin and culture and will not be changed in order to suit anybody. Law should also not discriminate against members of the population.. 2. All UK mosques and Islamic centers MUST fly the Union jack aswell as the flag of Islam I have long urged the locals to ask for the St Georges to be flown, for too long have racists flown it as a symbol of white power - wankers 3. Burkas will be banned in public buildings (just like balaclavas are). I havent got a problem with the niqab or the burka AS LONG AS THE PERSON WEARING IT DOES SO FROM PERSONAL CHOICE AND NOT BY THE FORCE OF HER FAMILY OR HUSBAND. 4. Money from other govenments/groups and Islamic charities cannot be accepted in the funcing of Mosques and other islamic centers unless the oranisation in question isnt seen to be 'extreme'. Public funding should not be for any religious enterprise 5. Some Islamic traditions will be banned from public/domestic practices if it is seen to discriminate or threaten intergration. Example? (suicide bombing excepted) |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 07:00 PM Post #6 |
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''All UK mosques and Islamic centers MUST be destroyed'' I like you anxeity
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| Steve Freedom | Apr 14 2010, 07:04 PM Post #7 |
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simple rule one ABIDE BY ALL LAWS OF THIS UNITED KINGDOM OR LEAVE THIS LAND need i say more |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 07:05 PM Post #8 |
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If people want to integrate there is every encouragement (money no object) for them to do so, if they aren't integrating it's because they have no intention of integrating. I don't see how making more laws, money or stipulations will change a mind set. |
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| Heathen | Apr 14 2010, 07:09 PM Post #9 |
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1. Outsource prisons 2. Make Islam illegal and imprison practitioners 3. Cancel citizenship for immigrants in prisons outside of UK Alternatively outsource immigration, to perhaps pakistan or the the south pole! (we don't want them on the North pole) ![]() |
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| whiteguy | Apr 14 2010, 07:10 PM Post #10 |
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integrate... there here to take over mate lol |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 07:14 PM Post #11 |
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they have no intention of integrating |
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| studio | Apr 14 2010, 07:16 PM Post #12 |
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The Elders have always shied away from integration. Keep a low profile and get on with making money. The younger ones are coming out of their shells a bit, but we need more education. Not indoctrination into their religion, but rather how they see it within the UK. Not all Muslims are extremists, or anywhere near. The Qur'an has a lot of dodgy bits, but they do not all follow them the same way. But calls like the one above to destroy mosques is not something I can live with... its not the British way of doing things. My dad would spin in his grave at that one:( |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 07:54 PM Post #13 |
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Personally I'd help Muslims (of any colour) integrate by chartering flights to take them to whichever Islamic country they deem to be better than our country. Then they would never have to agitate or be offended again...............They would have everything they are always asking for, at hand. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 07:59 PM Post #14 |
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Couldn't agree more |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 08:00 PM Post #15 |
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How would you help Muslims intergrate? It's up to them more than is us. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 08:02 PM Post #16 |
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abolish islam would be a good one |
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| nosher | Apr 14 2010, 08:11 PM Post #17 |
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dont think they want to intergrate they just want our N H S and D S S, to make there lives easyer. they are f**kin up our country slowly and our M Ps are helping them do it..Elections!!! thets a feckin joke.... its going to be a hung parliment anyway... |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 08:52 PM Post #18 |
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Which one, the black one or the white one? |
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| studio | Apr 14 2010, 08:54 PM Post #19 |
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Most of them fly the Pakistani flag round here if anything,
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 09:24 PM Post #20 |
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I only know of the black one and the green one but I didn't think there was difference. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 09:26 PM Post #21 |
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Fair comment mate. Can't tar them all under the brush. Were anti-jihadist not anti-Muslim! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 09:33 PM Post #22 |
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if they have their way m8 he wont be spinning they will be bulldozing him. its what they do. nice sensitive caring islam |
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| studio | Apr 14 2010, 09:37 PM Post #23 |
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Maybe London, but I aint going out killing anybody just because murderers are about. I wont stoop to their levels, my head will be held high on my day of judgement... |
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| RDG | Apr 14 2010, 09:43 PM Post #24 |
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Darn it, that was exactly what I was going to say. I could not agree more. I would give them all a map of Great Briton showing only Sea ports and Air Ports and a packed lunch. I just hate what is going on with this lot. I used to be totally non racist and I claim still am, but now i,m against anyone or thing to do with Islam. If i,m judged as being racist, tough titty. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 09:54 PM Post #25 |
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three simple things speak english accept our laws and our culture |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 09:55 PM Post #26 |
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Dar al-harb ![]() Muhammad said: "If you see the black flags coming from Khurasan, join that army, even if you have to crawl over ice, for that is the army of the Imam al-Mahdi and no one can stop that army until it reaches Jerusalem." Dar al-Islam |
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| Tread Softly | Apr 14 2010, 09:56 PM Post #27 |
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On Muslim forums you quite often see them admonishing each other for "imitating the kuffar". Kuffar (singular, kaffir) means a non-Muslim, or unbeliever. This command, "do not imitate the kuffar" is a religous command. In other words, Islam demands that a Muslim does not imitate the non-Muslims. Thus they are not allowed to integrate. If they do integrate, well good for them, but they're not very religious. The command to not imitate or align with the kuffar can be found in the first chapter of the koran, is in a prayer that is to be said 5 times a day, and in many other places throughout the koran. An interesting point here is that they do actually imitate us all the time, which points to what I believe to be one of the better weapons against the spread of extreme islam (the best being moderate muslims), our culture. Muslims come to the UK and lap up our culture, favouring fast cars and fast food and gansta music and materialism. Okey, so they're not exactly picking up the finer side of our culture, but even the crass side of our culture is enough to slip them into the pursuit of dunya (material wealth) and therefore into the mainstream. There are many laments on Muslim forums about their ummah (community) falling away from Islam into the trap of dunya, so as far as I'm concerned long may it continue. |
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| studio | Apr 14 2010, 09:56 PM Post #28 |
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Most do, well to the same level as the chavs up the road anyway. But thats allowing entry or residence but not promoting integration... its an answer to running by the way Edited by studio, Apr 14 2010, 09:59 PM.
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| BeanLaden | Apr 14 2010, 10:03 PM Post #29 |
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I dont think its possible for muslims to intergrate they havent done it with anyone else throughout history why would they change now? Anyone thats come here seekeng refuge should at least accept the principles of the host nation. islam is not a religion! why people should appease it when it seeks to destroy us is f**kin beyond me
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:07 PM Post #30 |
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I wouldn't. In fact I will go so far as to say that I wouldn't give them the steam off my piss! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:11 PM Post #31 |
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One way ticket to Saudi Arabia |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:13 PM Post #32 |
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Intergrateee? Send the buggers back!!! |
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| studio | Apr 14 2010, 10:15 PM Post #33 |
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ENOUGH!! Back where? Theres been a muslim presence in Britain since 1656 ish!!! Starting to turn anti Muslim not just militant islam |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:16 PM Post #34 |
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to right |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:17 PM Post #35 |
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fella i live in essex all the chavs are white the thing is boils down to accepting english/british culture over everything else and it is that imo that is the problem islam as it has been said time and time again will not intergate or it is agenst the koran to do so by not speaking english and keeping segrated plays into the hands of the extremists
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:27 PM Post #36 |
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I dont care Middle East somewhere. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:30 PM Post #37 |
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You can see how the muslim presence has helped us. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:31 PM Post #38 |
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anxiety its another one
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:33 PM Post #39 |
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WE can't do anymore than we have done. It's up to them. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:33 PM Post #40 |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:36 PM Post #41 |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:56 PM Post #42 |
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I'm on your side. People seem to think ALL Muslims are just like the ones we here about on here. Some people on here have skocking views. Just think about what your saying... |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 10:59 PM Post #43 |
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I'm with you |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 11:00 PM Post #44 |
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Do you think they would fly with British Airways? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 11:01 PM Post #45 |
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If people want to integrate they will. I know muslims as well as others who have and have done so extremely succesfully. There are those who simply won't. Society should not bend for them. They should be made to feel uncomfortable. If any of their cultural practices contranvene our laws or values they can be shown the door. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 11:18 PM Post #46 |
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What do you mean by "extremely succesfully", would they for example allow a kafir to marry their Sister without converting? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 11:23 PM Post #47 |
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Do you like seeing endless streams of muslims walking our British streets? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 14 2010, 11:27 PM Post #48 |
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Funny you should ask! Yes! They already have! |
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| Karif-Chris | Apr 14 2010, 11:31 PM Post #49 |
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Make it illegal to marry another muslim from outside this country, no bringing in wife's or husbands in. 1 land 1 law Higher taxes for muslim men English born imams Converting to islam illigal The truth taught in schools |
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| Karif-Chris | Apr 14 2010, 11:36 PM Post #50 |
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What you know a none muslim man married to a muslim woman, and rich people dont count. |
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