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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 9 2010, 09:17 PM (423 Views) | |
| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 10:36 PM Post #51 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isapnyX-3yA from a jew /\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6H63CD7uQA 1948 that was made. hope they help!! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 10:37 PM Post #52 |
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Cool....you want a cookie? A medal, or maybe a doughnut perhaps for your achievements? |
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 10:42 PM Post #53 |
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hey cookie sounds nice can I have one
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| guypatriot | Apr 9 2010, 10:42 PM Post #54 |
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Hi Lisa I hope you're having a good evening. I've read through this thread and the links and I think one of the links was American which isn't going to be that helpful because they also call liberals and as left wing whereas we in the UK use the word liberal as a centre ground politics expression rather than left wing or right wing. Basically put left wing is how we would refer to the traditional Labour Party in this nation and right wing is what we would refer to as the traditional values of the Conservative Party. The Nazi's and Adolf Hitler in Germany and the Fascists in Italy under Mussolini (spelling?) would be examples of ultra far right extremist regimes during WWII. Likewise Stalinism/Communism under Stalin in the Soviet Union and Maoism/Red Socialism under Chairman Mao in China would be examples of ultra left wing extremism during the same era. Typically when you talk of left wing ideals you will talk of higher taxation in general particularly for the more wealthy for better public services and greater state control with nationalised industry with greater workers rights etc. and also more social ideas on dealing with crime. When you talk of right wing ideals you typically talk of lower taxation and less state interference with privatisation, deregulation and the belief in the free market economy however harsher on crime. Traditionally left wing ideals are seen as ideals that will help the working man whereas right wing ideals will be more beneficial to the rich elite. However in reality it doesn't always work out that way. So when it comes to something like Stalinism you can see quite easily as to why this would be seen as extreme left wing in practise. That is they murdered their monarchy and ruling class elite and most of anything that could be described as middle class and also masses of their farmers were murdered. Pretty much everything became state property. However it is a little more difficult to make a case for Hitler and his party being extreme right wing when you consider he took his murderous regime against the Jews who he believed to be the supreme capitalists that owned a disproportionate amount of wealth and he also had many Germans killed who were wealthy powerbrokers that opposed him. So you are correct in saying that far left and far right in traditional terms on Stalin and Hitler were not that far apart. They both opposed democracy,created totalitarian states, built empires and murdered sections of their own society that they believed were pulling the strings. Hope this helps. Regards |
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 10:45 PM Post #55 |
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Say something nice about me |
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 10:48 PM Post #56 |
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don't wanna a cookie now
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 10:48 PM Post #57 |
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Yo Dylan bust a move kid . Knuckles I see your revelling in me being denied by Lashes so for our entertainment you ask her out . |
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| ignominius | Apr 9 2010, 10:48 PM Post #58 |
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Communism is a totalitarian system. It's not corporate as Nazism is. However, it still seeks to control every aspect of your life, what you think, believe, what you do for a living, what you can vote for in elections and so on. It's total control. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 10:50 PM Post #59 |
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I delivered |
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 10:53 PM Post #60 |
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Patronising the retarded is just evil <3
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 9 2010, 10:54 PM Post #61 |
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Igno and Guy - thank you, youse have really helped actually. Thank you very much for your input, it's helped to clear things. The rest of youse, stop being c0ckends
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 10:57 PM Post #62 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8 Who's more stupid? the person who believes money exists or the person who tells people money doesn't exist? |
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 10:59 PM Post #63 |
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your lightest touch commands obedience
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 9 2010, 10:59 PM Post #64 |
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ha ha ha
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 11:00 PM Post #65 |
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Knuckles please stop patronising your own fragile ego with double speak as it doesnt hide your lack of balls man ! Nice song Dylan . Lashes I think I love you ...no really I do...help
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 11:02 PM Post #66 |
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WEIRDO ALERT!!! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 11:08 PM Post #67 |
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Really your a weirdo ? |
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 9 2010, 11:11 PM Post #68 |
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Drongo!
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 11:12 PM Post #69 |
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you more wierdo than me Im weirdoyour weirdo
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 11:15 PM Post #70 |
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Nah man I was larking around yes ? Lashes knows this is just abit of a laugh as does Knuckles but you seem to have gone a wee bit off track |
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 11:15 PM Post #71 |
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This is how i would explain politics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtiSCBXbHAg |
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 11:20 PM Post #72 |
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im allways of the tracks it's a friday night. It's all good fun , isn't it I blame the beer myself, it's my best defence i have
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 11:22 PM Post #73 |
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It's sometimes hard to take the piss out of someone and keep it in a comical context. Even the phrase 'taking the piss' can be interpreted different ways. |
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 9 2010, 11:24 PM Post #74 |
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shurrup man ya mongers! it's alllll good in the Lashes hood! So wrap it up! fo shizz
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 11:25 PM Post #75 |
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The clit hood? |
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 11:29 PM Post #76 |
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I have to agree. it gets really surreal, trouble with me i like the surreal. |
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 9 2010, 11:34 PM Post #77 |
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pure gimp. |
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| ignominius | Apr 9 2010, 11:34 PM Post #78 |
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You want surreal, how about this.....
I've been pondering the meaning of that phrase for a good number of years and I still don't understand it! |
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 9 2010, 11:37 PM Post #79 |
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a picture innit? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 11:38 PM Post #80 |
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Fucking hell. Stop being clever, you're putting me off. |
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 9 2010, 11:39 PM Post #81 |
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who are ye talking tee???? lmao |
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| ignominius | Apr 9 2010, 11:39 PM Post #82 |
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might well be , but what does it actually mean. It was painted on the side of a wall just outside Paddington Station. I used to see it every time I travelled over to Reading. Still can't work it out. I have a few theories, but none that would hold water in debate! |
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 11:45 PM Post #83 |
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love it. Describing remote viewing. |
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| ignominius | Apr 9 2010, 11:46 PM Post #84 |
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BTW Lisa, you ain't dumb. There's a world of difference between not knowing something and not having the brains to understand. Look at the UAF, they have all the education and knowledge they need but they haven't a brain cell amongst them! It blows their mind when they call us racists and there stands half a dozen non-white Englishmen! Now *that* is dumb! |
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| ignominius | Apr 9 2010, 11:48 PM Post #85 |
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But does it. Something far away is actually close by in pictures of other places.....still can't get my two brain cells around it.... |
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 9 2010, 11:50 PM Post #86 |
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Lol I like to think I'm not that dumb but sometimes a girl's just gotta roll with it ![]() lol! really, I just think I would rather ask the question in order to understand, where's the shame in that
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| englandman | Apr 9 2010, 11:53 PM Post #87 |
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maybe your not supposed to. I could make up stuff like that would have no meaning what so ever, but guarented someone would have an answer and state that is what it means. pretentious arty people do this they love that you are pondering on their crappy sayings and art, look at that tracy emen emin?
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 9 2010, 11:58 PM Post #88 |
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urgh she needs to shave her tache like! |
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| Gorgie | Apr 10 2010, 12:08 AM Post #89 |
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I'm gonna be honest here. When I first seen this thread, I thought it was about chicken wings haha |
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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!" "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill | |
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 10 2010, 12:09 AM Post #90 |
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LMAO! I'm not that random am I???
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| Gorgie | Apr 10 2010, 12:11 AM Post #91 |
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Nahh, well maybe you are haha It's just that I'm starving, so food is on my mind!
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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Never run away from anything. Never!" "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill | |
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| guypatriot | Apr 10 2010, 12:25 AM Post #92 |
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Hi Lisa I hope you found the last explanation useful. Just to add a modern narrative to this. Today neo Nazi or extreme far right movements are known for a only a part of Hitlers ideology i.e. racial hatred and hatred of gay people. Hitler believed the Aryan race to be superior to all others although ironically he didn't believe that Aryan people were just white people believing that many Indians would have been Aryan due to the heritage of origin as he saw it. However in todays terms neo Nazism is seen in the West in terms of the colour of your skin i.e. as white people being against non whites and as white people against gay people. So when Geert Wilders stands up to speak about his concerns about Muslim extremism he is branded Nazi and fascist despite the fact the man lived in Israel for a number of years and is pro Israeli. When the EDL protest against Muslim extremism despite having members and speakers of many races and many flags flying including those supporting all sexuality we are deemed Nazis. Now you may say to me that this doesn't add up in the case of Geert Wilders and the EDL i.e. it is not just a case of white on non white so how can either be branded Nazi. Yes it doesn't add up to the facts however this is where you bring in modern day leftist extremism. If we look at modern day politics then spin is at the heart of this. However if you look at the modern day far left i.e. UAF/SWP then lying is their mantra. These are not people that believe in telling the odd porky just to avoid an uncomfortable situation. Lying is the very basis of their political beliefs and that a society should be based on lies in order to dominate and suppress it. If you look at the name Unite Against Fascism then even that is a lie. They have done nothing to oppose Islamofascists in this nation. Islamists have held up banners saying 'God Bless Hitler'. I hope no fellow EDLer will accuse me of being Sherlock here (LOL) however when an organisation that says its against fascism is OK with pro Nazism then it doesn't take a brain cell to work out something isn't correct. All the best and apologies for the rant. Keep safe |
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| Lisalashesxxx | Apr 10 2010, 02:16 PM Post #93 |
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Yeah I know exactly what you mean there chuck. Thanks a lot
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