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Anjem Choudary: "Islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission."
Topic Started: Apr 9 2010, 05:00 PM (250 Views)
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http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/03/anjem-choudary-islam-does-not-mean-peace-islam-means-submission.html

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i hope EVERYONE sees that vid
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I laugh when Muslim's say "These extremists don't represent Islam, Islam is a message of peace". Yeah right, the rules detailing oppression of Women and Homosexuals, and slaying of non-believers are in the Quaran! If you don't believe all of that, then your not a Muslim!
Islam is fascism. Unite against fascism. :)

I SUPPORT ISRAEL AND ITS FIGHT TO PROTECT DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM AGAINST HAMAS TERRORISTS.
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And as Geert Wilders said "There are many moderate Muslims, but there is no such thing as moderate Islam."

The 'submission' part makes the religion non-negotiable. Do or die.
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You know, I think hate is such a strong word and have never really hated anyone in my life but that thing, I hate more every day, he wants slamming up and isolating for good, or feeding to the pigs
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This man is just a 'plant', a decoy if you like, to entertain fools, and make them look his way whilst the real Islam sneaks up and takes over in increments whilst no one is watching!

The sooner the general public see through this, the more chance we have to retain our country and ideals.
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About 70% of world's Muslims do not know what's in the Koran, they can not read or write.
So of course they have to listen to such leaders. Imams in their mosques and leaders in the Saudi. As we clearly sees, they act accordingly.
Not knowing the numbers for the UK, i'm willing to bet that most of them does not read or
write very well. (don't look at my rather rusty English!)

Islam means peace!!
We have heard this ad nauseum from islam-apologists and Muslims.
We have heard that there is itjihad (large jihad), the inner struggle, which is the main struggle for a Muslim.
Moreover, the aggressive jihad (jihad small) is first and foremost, "defensive war" against Islam's enemies.

• The Koran -- the words of the Islamic god Allah, as reported by Mohammed
• The Sira -- the life of Mohammed
• The Hadith -- the traditions of Mohammed, governing every aspect of daily life, great and small

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CSPI : http://www.cspipublishing.com/

To sort out some facts. Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) conducted a survey a
while back, where they went through Islam's most important writings, ie. the Koran, Hadith
and Sira.

In the survey, emphasis was placed on how many verses that spoke of itjihad and
how many have argued for aggressive and militant jihad.

Using simple mathematics to explain Islam's doctrine. Bill Warner (director of CSPI) explains
the results of the survey as follows:

"Let us look in Bukhari (Hadith) for the answer, as he constantly speaks of jihad.
In Bukhari about 97% of Jihad-references is about war and 3% is about the inner struggle.

So the statistical answer is that jihad is 97% war and 3% inner struggle.
Is jihad war? Yes - 97%.
Is jihad inner struggle? Yes - 3%.

"But the trilogy speaks clearly about the doctrine. At least 75% of Sira (Muhammad's life) is about jihad.
Approximately 67% of the Koran written in Mecca is about the unbelievers, or Politics.
Of the" Medina-Quran ", 51% is devoted to the unbelievers. Approximately 20% of Bukharis
Hadith is about jihad and Politics. "

The figures confirmed the words that Islam is a religion of war and that war against unbelievers, it is the most important thing for a Muslim.

To make it short and sweet!
Time is running from us.
Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil – Thomas Mann

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil.... is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

All political parties must be held responsible, and that takes a strong grassroot movement! - Tim Phillips
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This...Scum feeds off publicity, by making outrageous claims and demands.

This was the idiot claiming to march through Wootton Bassett carrying empty coffins for respect of innocent muslims killed in Afghaninstan right??

I actualy wanted him to do it, the whole country would be up in arms against muslims!!






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Like I always say, he is are useful idiot, when he speaks we get a bigger following.
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Yes anjem choudry is right about that.. islam is indeed submission and jihad mostly means WAR the sixth pillar if you will.
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Straight from the horses mouth!
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Let's take a look at another fact that goes unmentioned in all of this.
Every religion and faith has it's leaders and famous names, such as The popes cardinals and arch-bishops. We think of people like Pope John Paul,Dalai Lama,Shi Shi Ravi Shankar,Mother Teresa and other enlightened and remarkable people. From all faiths we find good people that rise to prominance within their respective religions. And then when you look for the same in Islam you come up short.
What is the current face of Islam? Who are the key players and who is spreading the peace and love under the shadow of the green flag?
Was it Ayatollah Khomeni when he was knocking about? Makarem? Jihadist retoric by the bucket load but their ain't no room for love here honey.
In this country all we hear is the mad clerics ranting and raving, spreading hatred and poison with every word. We've had Hamza and Bakri preaching bile at us and now we've got Choudry and his band of bed fellows.
It seems with this lot it's certainly the evil scum that rises to the top and it's proved in a way by the fact that we are still waiting for our miraculous peaceful islamic leader to come and lead us down the path of enlightenment to peace goodwill and love.
The only way Islam will eventually lead us down to is the dark and frightening pathway that decends into the pits of hell.


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Thumbs up for that post.
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Apr 9 2010, 05:00 PM
Hi P

As far as I have heard from various sources Islam means something to the effect of 'Peace through submission to God'. So yes not exactly peace as it were.

From what I have read the Koran was written in ancient Arabic where many words don't have any direct translation to English or any other language for that matter and have multiple meanings in our tongue as in the case of the word Islam. From what I have read it would seem that even modern Arabs cannot read the Koran from their current dialect and grammar.

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Apr 10 2010, 12:07 AM
Let's take a look at another fact that goes unmentioned in all of this.
Every religion and faith has it's leaders and famous names, such as The popes cardinals and arch-bishops. We think of people like Pope John Paul,Dalai Lama,Shi Shi Ravi Shankar,Mother Teresa and other enlightened and remarkable people. From all faiths we find good people that rise to prominance within their respective religions. And then when you look for the same in Islam you come up short.
What is the current face of Islam? Who are the key players and who is spreading the peace and love under the shadow of the green flag?
Was it Ayatollah Khomeni when he was knocking about? Makarem? Jihadist retoric by the bucket load but their ain't no room for love here honey.
In this country all we hear is the mad clerics ranting and raving, spreading hatred and poison with every word. We've had Hamza and Bakri preaching bile at us and now we've got Choudry and his band of bed fellows.
It seems with this lot it's certainly the evil scum that rises to the top and it's proved in a way by the fact that we are still waiting for our miraculous peaceful islamic leader to come and lead us down the path of enlightenment to peace goodwill and love.
The only way Islam will eventually lead us down to is the dark and frightening pathway that decends into the pits of hell.


Very good point, very well made.
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i didn't realise how short Chowder is, I must find out his height, but I fear what we are dealing with here is a Napolean complex.

Not only is he a clown he is a short arsed clown.
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How would i download this video?
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If I get cancer I'm taking that c**t with me.
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