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Dudley another blog spotter
Topic Started: Apr 9 2010, 12:05 AM (351 Views)
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just come accross this blogspot and it sounds like what me and the girlfriend might have witnessed, one of the bloggers entries talks about Dudley and problems against the media. Looks like this fella is making a documentary as well.

http://markjoneslive.blogspot.com/
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He's tried contacting people before. Not to be trusted!
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Do you know why he is not to be trusted?
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Ian JL
Apr 9 2010, 12:17 AM
Do you know why he is not to be trusted?
Anyone who is attempting to gather personal information is not to be trusted.
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Apr 9 2010, 12:21 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 12:17 AM
Do you know why he is not to be trusted?
Anyone who is attempting to gather personal information is not to be trusted.
Im not sure what your saying and why, I did not see anything about gathering personal information, I just noticed the fella was making a contact request from the person shown in the picture from the Bolton demo. From what I read is that he wants the person in the picture to make contact unless there was something I missed when I read the blog. Not only that but if that is the same fella who got attacked that me and the girlfriend witnessed then all I can say is that he did not do anything wrong to be attacked for and if it is the same fella, he is simply appearing to try and educate people not only in the way how to treat people but also he looks like he is taking a fair view of things from what I see.

Does anybody know why this fella is not to be trusted?
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The reason he is not to be trusted is because he has tried to gather personal information on EDL members before - not specifically related to that blog.
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They take a fair view when they want to. That pic is UAF anyway - so its no concern of mine. I personally wouldn`t print a picture of someone - I may ask for a person to come forward and say why - but not printing pics. These - well most - photographers and media just want a bad pic in my eyes.
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Apr 9 2010, 12:36 AM
The reason he is not to be trusted is because he has tried to gather personal information on EDL members before - not specifically related to that blog.
Is their a thread anywere that you know about that talks about what you are stating, I am interested to find out more on the topic but only because if it is the same fella I never got any impression that he was anything other than just another guy with a big camera. He certainly looked like he could be making a documentary based on what he said in his blogs.
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Never trust a reporter it will always be edited.
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Apr 9 2010, 12:40 AM
They take a fair view when they want to. That pic is UAF anyway - so its no concern of mine. I personally wouldn`t print a picture of someone - I may ask for a person to come forward and say why - but not printing pics. These - well most - photographers and media just want a bad pic in my eyes.
Thats fare enough mate but according to the message with the pic, I get the impression the guy in the pic may have caused problems for him and maybe rather than let him get away with something maybe he wants to have words with him. His apeal did mention that the guy in the pic did say some things from which I can only guess might have been a problem hence the apeal.
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How would you like your picture put up if you did nothing wrong and allegations are made, but the offence is not stated. However looks like the UAF so don't care about them ;-)
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I can't remember if there is a thread on here or not. He used to post on facebook. He does claim to be making a documentary. I'm not sure what impression you think he could give other than "just another guy with a big camera."
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Apr 9 2010, 12:44 AM
Never trust a reporter it will always be edited.
surely not all reporters are dodgy lol My worry is though that if he is dodgy, do people have the right to abuse reporters just because they are dodgy. I for one agree with his statements about lawful conduct and to not attack photographers because thats what the EDL has as one of its core values. Well not a core value not to attack photographers or reporters but people in general which actually covers reporters and photographers.
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Maybe take his camera and watch his film to tell lol.
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Apr 9 2010, 12:49 AM
I can't remember if there is a thread on here or not. He used to post on facebook. He does claim to be making a documentary. I'm not sure what impression you think he could give other than "just another guy with a big camera."
Yeah i know what your saying, I was just being general with my descriptions.
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Don`t know what answer you want - but if you are out shopping with your Mrs and someone shoves a camera in your face - you ain`t gonna be best pleased. They should stick them around a corner - and anyone who wants to get filmed and give a story - they can do it in peace. Like I and someone else mentioned - its a UAF picture anyway, so I ain`t gonna lose sleep over it.
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Apr 9 2010, 12:52 AM
Maybe take his camera and watch his film to tell lol.
Well he did claim to have footage of the Dudley demo and if it is true then he might show the footage. He mentioned on the Dudley blog that he is going to contact both the EDL and the UAF I think and so to me it looks like it will be something that both the EDL and the UAF could use to identify any trouble makers. I am not happy with the UAF because they just do not understand the reality of the EDL.
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Mark jones approached the edl media team previously, For some reason his offer to film EDL members was rejected by the team,
From what i remember he was not up front about his intentions from the start,
(i will ask someone from the media team to give the correct reason) so dont quote me on this


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Apr 9 2010, 12:56 AM
Don`t know what answer you want - but if you are out shopping with your Mrs and someone shoves a camera in your face - you ain`t gonna be best pleased. They should stick them around a corner - and anyone who wants to get filmed and give a story - they can do it in peace. Like I and someone else mentioned - its a UAF picture anyway, so I ain`t gonna lose sleep over it.
I don't think anybody can give an answer to be honest, I think I will try contacting the fella and ask him why he has published a picture for an apeal, can't do any harm asking I suppose but I agree with you when you say having a camera pushed in your face is uncomfortable but he mentioned its not against the law and bearing that in mind, I don't agree reprters should be attacked because they are within the law and if somebody sticks a camera in my face I would have to say something I agree.
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IanJL: Did you go to the Bolton demo?
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Apr 9 2010, 12:57 AM
Mark jones approached the edl media team previously, For some reason his offer to film EDL members was rejected by the team,
From what i remember he was not up front about his intentions from the start,
(i will ask someone from the media team to give the correct reason) so dont quote me on this
Nice one mate, I like to hear a good bit of gossip lol
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That twat aint to be trusted lads hes lied to us, changed his story, didnt produce the goods on an agreed time when "helping" the EDL with video footage of Stoke. He called Amit a racist and thats about all there is to it.

Untrustworthy wanker, dont give him anything!
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Apr 9 2010, 01:09 AM
That twat aint to be trusted lads hes lied to us, changed his story, didnt produce the goods on an agreed time when "helping" the EDL with video footage of Stoke. He called Amit a racist and thats about all there is to it.

Untrustworthy wanker, dont give him anything!
Stop beating around the bush and get t o the point mate :)


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Apr 9 2010, 01:04 AM
IanJL: Did you go to the Bolton demo?
No but i wanted to i was working that day, my first demo was Dudley.
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Apr 9 2010, 01:13 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 01:04 AM
IanJL: Did you go to the Bolton demo?
No but i wanted to i was working that day, my first demo was Dudley.
I cannot understand why you are worried about a picture of a UAF taken from the Bolton Demo that you were not on.

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Apr 9 2010, 01:09 AM
That twat aint to be trusted lads hes lied to us, changed his story, didnt produce the goods on an agreed time when "helping" the EDL with video footage of Stoke. He called Amit a racist and thats about all there is to it.

Untrustworthy wanker, dont give him anything!
This is somebody who seems a little bit anoyed!

Helping and did not deliver, not to be trusted and he called Amit a racist. Fair enough but it sounds a bit cheeky to go into the middle of a demonstration if all what you said is true. If I was that guy I would not step foot in their after what you have just said. He got his camera attacked according to his blog, are you actually saying that he deserved it?

Sorry I have to ask that question for some of the things you said seem a bit odd to say that he entered into the middle of the EDL who already know him. If this is true then the guy is either stupid or has got balls!
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Apr 9 2010, 01:15 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 01:13 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 01:04 AM
IanJL: Did you go to the Bolton demo?
No but i wanted to i was working that day, my first demo was Dudley.
I cannot understand why you are worried about a picture of a UAF taken from the Bolton Demo that you were not on.

I am not all that worried about that picture, me and the girlfriend witnessed an attack on a camera guy in the middle of the EDL demo in Dudley that might or might not have been him and my concern is who attacked him and why!
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Well, maybe he took pics of his attacker -then the attacker will get caught. Photographers usually mass behind the police on demos, not go into the crowd who they are going to stitch up all over the net. I don`t agree with attacking photographers. I really cannot see why you linked that specific photographer to this thread.
Are you local to Dudley by any chance?
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Apr 9 2010, 01:20 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 01:09 AM
That twat aint to be trusted lads hes lied to us, changed his story, didnt produce the goods on an agreed time when "helping" the EDL with video footage of Stoke. He called Amit a racist and thats about all there is to it.

Untrustworthy wanker, dont give him anything!
This is somebody who seems a little bit anoyed!

Helping and did not deliver, not to be trusted and he called Amit a racist. Fair enough but it sounds a bit cheeky to go into the middle of a demonstration if all what you said is true. If I was that guy I would not step foot in their after what you have just said. He got his camera attacked according to his blog, are you actually saying that he deserved it?

Sorry I have to ask that question for some of the things you said seem a bit odd to say that he entered into the middle of the EDL who already know him. If this is true then the guy is either stupid or has got balls!
Are you Mark Jones? Fucking sound like him, whinet little tosser he was!

Nothing "impartial" about the lad.

Cry me a river!
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Apr 9 2010, 01:27 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 01:20 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 01:09 AM
That twat aint to be trusted lads hes lied to us, changed his story, didnt produce the goods on an agreed time when "helping" the EDL with video footage of Stoke. He called Amit a racist and thats about all there is to it.

Untrustworthy wanker, dont give him anything!
This is somebody who seems a little bit anoyed!

Helping and did not deliver, not to be trusted and he called Amit a racist. Fair enough but it sounds a bit cheeky to go into the middle of a demonstration if all what you said is true. If I was that guy I would not step foot in their after what you have just said. He got his camera attacked according to his blog, are you actually saying that he deserved it?

Sorry I have to ask that question for some of the things you said seem a bit odd to say that he entered into the middle of the EDL who already know him. If this is true then the guy is either stupid or has got balls!
Are you Mark Jones? f**king sound like him, whinet little tosser he was!

Nothing "impartial" about the lad.

Cry me a river!
Fare question lol no
Edited by Ian JL, Apr 9 2010, 01:31 AM.
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Sometihng weird about you, ian.
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Apr 9 2010, 01:27 AM
Well, maybe he took pics of his attacker -then the attacker will get caught. Photographers usually mass behind the police on demos, not go into the crowd who they are going to stitch up all over the net. I don`t agree with attacking photographers. I really cannot see why you linked that specific photographer to this thread.
Are you local to Dudley by any chance?
The reason why I was thinking that myight be the fella is because me and the girlfriend witnessed an attack in the middle of the EDL demo in dudley and with what he has written in his blog, he sounds like the fella we seen get attacked. I dont know for sure if it is him but his blog description sounded like it could be him.
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So, you just happened to click on his blog?

Are you local to Dudley?
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Apr 9 2010, 01:34 AM
Sometihng weird about you, ian.
Help me out mate?
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Apr 9 2010, 01:35 AM
So, you just happened to click on his blog?

Are you local to Dudley?
Not at all, I got a facebook page I joined earlier and when I was reading through it I clicked on his blog link and thats when I came across it. The facebook page is similar to the blogspot page!

No Dudley is miles away
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Got a link for the facebook page?
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Apr 9 2010, 01:52 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 01:35 AM
So, you just happened to click on his blog?

Are you local to Dudley?
Not at all, I got a facebook page I joined earlier and when I was reading through it I clicked on his blog link and thats when I came across it. The facebook page is similar to the blogspot page!

No I am not local to Dudley.
Have you got a link to the facebook page please Ian.

Edit: damn, beaten by MJ! :P
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Apr 9 2010, 01:54 AM
Got a link for the facebook page?
Hang on I will just go get it! I feel like a gofer lol
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Apr 9 2010, 01:54 AM
Got a link for the facebook page?
Hang on I will just go get it! I feel like a gofer lol
Well, if people talk about where they get stuff from - we usually ask for the link.
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Apr 9 2010, 01:54 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 01:52 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 01:35 AM
So, you just happened to click on his blog?

Are you local to Dudley?
Not at all, I got a facebook page I joined earlier and when I was reading through it I clicked on his blog link and thats when I came across it. The facebook page is similar to the blogspot page!

No I am not local to Dudley.
Have you got a link to the facebook page please Ian.

Edit: damn, beaten by MJ! :P
This is the site I got the link from.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?v=info&ref=mf&gid=373572115254
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he's a UAF member according to his facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=info&ref=mf&gid=373572115254#!/profile.php?id=100000752638257
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Link doesn`t work for me. Anyone else?
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Ian JL. Sent you a pm a while back, no reply.
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its to mark jones's documentary page.
Obviously joined the Uaf pages too to get a balanced view,,IMO
he also has some edl pages in his groupings


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Apr 9 2010, 02:11 AM
its to mark jones's documentary page.
Obviously joined the Uaf pages too to get a balanced view,,IMO
he also has some edl pages in his groupings
cheers mate ;)
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Apr 9 2010, 02:05 AM
I have just followed one of his posts on the UAF site, it looks like he is taking the attention of his problem to the UAF site. Looks like he has got a problem with conduct to me from both the UAF and EDL. I can't see anything that makes him one way or another. Maybe he is a tosser or something else, all I can say is he looks legit to me but if some people know things that I don't then thats not my problem.
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I have just followed one of his posts on the UAF site, it looks like he is taking the attention of his problem to the UAF site. Looks like he has got a problem with conduct to me from both the UAF and EDL. I can't see anything that makes him one way or another. Maybe he is a tosser or something else, all I can say is he looks legit to me but if some people know things that I don't then thats not my problem.
could be like SPAN said and he's joined the various groups to try and form a balanced opinion
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Ok seeing as the Media team said "Dont have anything to do with this guy,or his documentary,
Why are we giving him free publicity.
All those in favour of closing this thread say "Aye"


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Thanks ujac :)

cya :)


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