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No Virgins for Islam's Suicide Bombers!; New light on Muhammad's promise to martyrs
Topic Started: Apr 7 2010, 01:53 PM (89 Views)
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If new research by Ibn Warraq(literally Son of a paper-maker) and the pseudonym used by one of the world's foremost writers on Islam because of a death fatwa against him)is as accurate as most of his peers suggest it is, then any would be suicide bombers should be extremely disappointed! Some might even refuse Muhammad's instructions!

The usual "reward" in the Islamic heaven for what Muslims euphemistically call "martyrs" is 72 virgins of indescribable beauty, although in other hadiths Muhammad, miserable sod,only offered 70!

However, Warraq believes that most of the suras(chapters)on this subject were written in SYRIAC(an important form of ARAMAIC. The words for beautiful maidens in Aramaic are actually white raisins in Syriac and are normally translated as chilled drinks. Very acceptable to most men I would have thought particularly those who would like to be thought of as considerate and protective of women instead of treating them like slaves and/or prostitutes as they are by most orthodox Muslims!
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Sex with 72 (or is it 70?) raisins.....hmm that would be interesting..72 perpetual raisins. I prefer the theory that it's not 72 virgins but a 72-year old virgin.....
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Apr 7 2010, 04:14 PM
Sex with 72 (or is it 70?) raisins.....hmm that would be interesting..72 perpetual raisins. I prefer the theory that it's not 72 virgins but a 72-year old virgin.....
thats virgin on the ridiculous!
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isaiahreborn
Apr 7 2010, 01:53 PM
If new research by Ibn Warraq(literally Son of a paper-maker) and the pseudonym used by one of the world's foremost writers on Islam because of a death fatwa against him)is as accurate as most of his peers suggest it is, then any would be suicide bombers should be extremely disappointed! Some might even refuse Muhammad's instructions!

The usual "reward" in the Islamic heaven for what Muslims euphemistically call "martyrs" is 72 virgins of indescribable beauty, although in other hadiths Muhammad, miserable sod,only offered 70!

However, Warraq believes that most of the suras(chapters)on this subject were written in SYRIAC(an important form of ARAMAIC. The words for beautiful maidens in Aramaic are actually white raisins in Syriac and are normally translated as chilled drinks. Very acceptable to most men I would have thought particularly those who would like to be thought of as considerate and protective of women instead of treating them like slaves and/or prostitutes as they are by most orthodox Muslims!
One point is that huge amounts of Muslims, not just the terrorists, believe all this about the Islamic Paradise.

What else could explain the death-cult of Hamas and other Muslims groups?

The problem is that far leftists in the West find it hard to accept that Muslims, especially in other countries, accept these ridiculous and extreme things. That is why the far left believes that suicide terrorism is all about poverty and Israeli oppression. They simply don't, or can't, believe that Muslims are prepared to die because of all those promises of Paradise and 77 virgins. Thus far leftists see Hamas, etc. through their own Leftist prism. That is, 'If I were to kill myself, I would do it because of poverty and oppression'. But Hamas are not Western or rational in all these senses. This is a kind of racism on the Leftists' part. That is, not accepting the possibility than other cultures, say in Palestine or Saudi Arabia, can be utterly unlike our own.
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ignominius
Apr 7 2010, 04:14 PM
Sex with 72 (or is it 70?) raisins.....hmm that would be interesting..72 perpetual raisins. I prefer the theory that it's not 72 virgins but a 72-year old virgin.....
And here she is . . .
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Oh yes.. what a stunner...now where did I put my suicide vest.......
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A mate of mine who used to be in the Royal Marines told me the best sign he saw on the road coming from the port at Hong Kong was one with the slogan ; "Genuine Ex Virgins" !
Winston Churchill on Islam ; ' The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world....
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One of the funniest threads on a Muslim forum I've seen was where a Muslim girl wondered whether a female bomber would get 72 husbands. The men went ape-s**t.
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Essential reading on this subject is Christoph Luxenberg's 'The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran'. It is a pseudonym and as expected he has had many death threats and is currently in hiding.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=227GhaeKYl4C&dq=Christoph+Luxenberg's+:The+Syro-Aramaic+Reading+of+the+Koran&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=D2G-S_a2L5260gS03P2ZCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCUQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
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