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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 10:39 PM Post #1 |
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Just about everyone admits that the level of immigration experienced over the last 13 years has had serious negative consequences. Now that people have been forced to admit it and it is now ok to to talk about it, albeit carefully, it is important that the UK can come up with an effective solution. Where do people stand? Is simply reducing net immigration to 100k or 50k per year enough? Is having zero net immigration enough? zero immigration? Or as far as incentivised repatriation? Forced repatriation? Should these policies be applied across the board or be targeted at specific immigrant groups identified as trouble makers? |
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| whiteguy | Apr 5 2010, 11:00 PM Post #2 |
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there is no solution, were f**ked already mate, theres too many here now |
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| Lone_Wolf | Apr 5 2010, 11:06 PM Post #3 |
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repatriation will fail, the only people who will benefit are the lawyers. a one in one out system for the next 5 years might work to stabalise the number then a gradual reducing of numbers allowed in for another 5 might work. or it might not. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:08 PM Post #4 |
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So are you saying that you think re-patriation is the answer? Or are you saying there is no point doing anything and we might as well give up? Personally, I would revoke every passport or grant of permanent residency issued in the last 13 years and make everyone re-apply. If they cannot demonstrate a significant net contribution to BRITISH society (in other words, contribution to pakistani/whichever country society in Britain would not count) then they can go back where they came from. Any criminal activity, they can also go back home. No incentives given. All they get is a free one way ticket. Their right to work, free health care, education, benefits etc. will be revoked immediately. Particular focus on anyone with links to extremism/terrorism. Anyone who declines to return to their country of origin when asked will be forceably shipped out to an offshore prison. Anyone who is peace loving, a supporter of Britain, not a criminal and makes a contribution can stay and be welcome. No further immigration for 5 years while the current mess is sorted out except in exceptional circumstances which will require personal sign off from the home secretary. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:09 PM Post #5 |
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Why will it fail? |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 5 2010, 11:15 PM Post #6 |
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whats the solution? well no amount of talking is going to magic them all back, and you try priseing them off the benifit system and taking away there dole cheuqes and free housing(at our cost) id like to see that lol. so it will have to be setteled with a big fight caused by a goverment. |
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:21 PM Post #7 |
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Ban cousin marriage and polygamy - this will seriously disrupt their breeding cycle leading to a slower rate of takeover. Ban halal slaughter. They will have to become vegetarians of go elsewhere. Deport all terrorists. terrorist sympathisers and their extended families. Remember that Muslims believe a terrorist may intercede with Allah to take 70 of his relatives to paradise. A lot of terrorists are feeble minded and are put up to it by their families. Deport all welfare scroungers - 40% of all Muslim households have no one working and leech of the taxpayer. Revoke all voting rights from anyone who has been allowed in under Labour's 'rub their noses in diversity' policy http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/02/labour-have-deliberately-destroyed.html |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:25 PM Post #8 |
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Revoke all voting rights from anyone who has been allowed in under Labour's 'rub their noses in diversity' policy http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/02/labour-have-deliberately-destroyed.html Good one |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:29 PM Post #9 |
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There will be no repatriation to speak of, it will be negligible at the very most. People destroy their passports in order to claim asylum and without identification there is zero chance of repatriation, for a start. Secondly, why would any country be stupid enough to take back criminals even if they are their own? With the possible exception of Britain, of course. We are stuck with these people and more pouring in each hour of the day, even the ones that want to leave have to jump through hoops and are lucky if they can get out. If it was possible to make this situation even slightly more bearable the polititians would be broadcasting it from the rooftops because they would walk straight into No 10 after the election. They are keeping quiet because they know there is nothing they can do, their hands are tied by the EU. They are all practising the art of
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:36 PM Post #10 |
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This is quite defeatist. I know logistics won't be easy but that doesn't mean it can't be done. You could certainly remove people's right to vote for example. (nice one Bamiyan) I'm sure if you told someone that even if they destroy their own passport they ain't getting no food, no healthcare, no work, no nothing so they might as well buggar off back where they came from then they probably would. Failing that, send them back to the last country they were in before arriving in the UK and and make it that country's problem. Make sure the message gets out there to the 3rd world. British immigration is no push over. You will not be given a free ride. Life here will be very hard for you unless you have been invited and made welcome. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:40 PM Post #11 |
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Deporting all the illegals is just not an option, when it costs about £11,000 to ship them out, and with Labour's awful immigration monitoring, we're looking at hundreds of thousands if not millions of illegals awaiting deportation. |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 5 2010, 11:41 PM Post #12 |
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this goverment are going to turn the english populaton of this country in to so called "nazis" everbody will be tared with this brush that oposess them they will still be shout at us as they are pulled out of the parlimnet building. its the big lie. |
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:44 PM Post #13 |
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So are you saying that we should just let them stay here, probably not paying tax, maybe commiting crimes, sending a message out to other potential illegals that the British will let you get away with it so come on over too? |
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| Heathen | Apr 5 2010, 11:47 PM Post #14 |
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Ban the Koran, as it's violating human rights, and then Islam-worshippers will go away! Ban family reunions. Close the borders to anyone without proper education and passports. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:47 PM Post #15 |
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If we give them legal status, they have no choice but to pay taxes. During the legalisation of the illegals, prevent immigrants from coming in. Simple. |
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| Lone_Wolf | Apr 5 2010, 11:48 PM Post #16 |
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deportation of illegals isnt the same as repatriation. anybody here illegaly should be deported, but repatriation isnt an option unless we want to go down the route the nazis took in the 30s. |
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| human target | Apr 5 2010, 11:48 PM Post #17 |
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no additional benefits after having two kids. If you can't pay for them, don't have them! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:51 PM Post #18 |
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I like this one. |
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| Capt Haddock | Apr 5 2010, 11:51 PM Post #19 |
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Forget mass repatriation, it is never going to happen. No government is going to discuss this scenario, never mind contemplate it. Europe calls the shots today, not London, and the greater European political circus has the intention of admitting 80 Million Muslims from poor Turkey into the club. If anything, things are only going to get a whole lot worse, or am I being pessimistic? |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 5 2010, 11:52 PM Post #20 |
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unless your english
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:53 PM Post #21 |
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No, I don't think you are. Question is, how long will the European man on the street put up with this s**t before we have "rivers of blood". Surely it would be better if the government too appropriate action before it got to that stage? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:53 PM Post #22 |
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It's not defeatist, I was stating facts. Send them back to the last country? So that would be France and your chances of foisting unwanted immigrants on them is zero. So your other solution is to let them die on the streets of illness or starvation? |
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| Deleted User | Apr 5 2010, 11:56 PM Post #23 |
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Just stop immigration that's all there is to it. There's millions of people that are out of work and hundereds of thousands of students that don't have jobs so the 'we need them to fill jobs' speech doesn't make any sense. |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 6 2010, 12:00 AM Post #24 |
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like powell said, there building a bonfire and we are the kindling. by the time everyone wakes up to the problem there will be only one option. |
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:00 AM Post #25 |
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I'm a bit short on solutions to be honest. Very keen to stimulate debate on the subject though and see if others can come up with something better than me. So far, it seems that there isn't a humanitarian solution that would actually work according to those on the board. There are, however, some significant steps that could be taken. 1. Stop all immigration for 5 years until current mess sorted out. 2. Anyone who arrived since NuLibor came to power is not allowed to vote. 3. Stop all "positive" discrimination in favour of immigrants and positively discriminate in favour of those born here who have held British passports since before NuLibor (regardless of ethnicity). 4. Stop mosque building completely. 5. Ban the use of any extremist religous material in places of worship. (so gay bashing and female oppression are out). 6. Ban Halal meat. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:01 AM Post #26 |
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What option is that? |
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| Capt Haddock | Apr 6 2010, 12:04 AM Post #27 |
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The problem is, it doesn't seem to be such a major topic on the broader public spectrum. Given the utterly disastrous decade of Labour, you'd be forgiven for thinking they would be absolute zero in the rating for the upcoming elections. Yet they are not far behind the Conservatives, how on earth could this be possible? It beggars belief that people could actually consider voting for these people. The saddest thing I think I've witnessed in my lifetime, is seeing my own countrymen emigrating to different countries because they do not want their children growing up in the inner cities.
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:10 AM Post #28 |
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I may well become one of your countrymen who goes abroad to escape the mess that England has become and is becoming. I have been wrestling for some time with the 2 choices that I feel I have. 1. Stand and fight. 2. Run away to another country. |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 6 2010, 12:10 AM Post #29 |
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tribal chaos. |
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:11 AM Post #30 |
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Why would they want to creat that and what would be their end game? Who are they? |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 6 2010, 12:14 AM Post #31 |
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lol
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:16 AM Post #32 |
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Massive repatriation will be difficult, costly and will take time, though ultimately it is the only way this country will survive. However depriving illegals and their descendents of the vote could be done instantly and would cost very little. This would prevent them from influencing British politics and allow us the time to get the main problem sorted out before our politics is completely Islamised. Stopping further immigration is of course essential, but with Muslim demographics being what they are it isn't enough to prevent our eventual Islamisation, it will only delay the inevitable. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:20 AM Post #33 |
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Sorry, from the way you wrote it it seemed like you were insinuating that "they" were doing this on purpose and therefore "they" must have an end game. I don't think Gordon can see pas the end of his nose. I wouldn't credit him with anything quite that forward thinking. I think that he and Tony decided to let any old bugger in because it mean't another labour voter on the books. Also population growth is in itself an economic pyramid scheme. Don't think they were any more clever than that. Parliament needs to be persuaded to act now and to take drastic, sweeping action immediately. If they don't deal with the problem now the problem will just be bigger by the time they are forced to deal with it. |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 6 2010, 12:20 AM Post #34 |
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Stopping further immigration is of course essential, but with Muslim demographics being what they are it isn't enough to prevent our eventual Islamisation, it will only delay the inevitable. if only everyone realised that Bamiyan. options: we all go over to there way of thinking get rid of all of them or we all breed at the same rate till we begin to fall of the edges of our island. |
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:22 AM Post #35 |
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Exactly. We should stop changing the environment to suit their needs and wants also. Lets stop making life so damned comfortable for them. Get rid of "positive" discrimination for a start. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:23 AM Post #36 |
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1. Leave the EU 2. Scrap the Human Rights 3. Make it an offence to preface with, "I'm not racist." when discussing immigration and Islam. 4. Anyone under the age of 30 who wants to visit Pakistan has to do 2 years complulsory national service in Pakistan. 5. Anyone who has lived here for less than 10 years and commits a crime is to serve his mandatory minimum 4 full years in a out sourced 3rd world prison. (to be decided, China maybe?) 6. All legislation from the past 15 years to be re-visited and put to the public vote via the internet. Including weights & measures, Health & safety, etc. Gone a bit off topic! lol Sorry, got carried away.
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:23 AM Post #37 |
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I know which one of those options i prefer. Although some aspects of the breeding might be fun!!! |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:24 AM Post #38 |
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Well I know what direction I am moving in, but I will say no more because no doubt the site is monitored by MI5 and they doubtless know who I am, and everything there is to know about me past and present. And everyone else here too. So everyone needs to keep their counsel and leave it at that. But I will say that only the most drastic of measures will save our country and every other one in Europe for our children. This can all be done peacefully too, but I fear from the bottom of my living soul that there is such a grip on the minds of the populace throughout Europe that the ONLY solution for the maintaining of freedom and peace for our children will ultimately be via violence on a huge scale. There is a tragedy of immense proportions that awaits the indigenous peoples and the immigrants, and God can only watch in bewilderment yet again. |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 6 2010, 12:25 AM Post #39 |
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economics has done this to every other country throught history when enoch powell read his rivers of blood speech he was refering to what happened in rome, he new his history. now its englands turn, all because of the love for money. the eec was always doomed to fail because of boom and bust. |
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 6 2010, 12:33 AM Post #40 |
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the planet earth if finite, so there for there will never be a happy ending, eternal peace. europeans reduced there numbers masivley during 2 masive wars, now its the third worlds turn (third world war)as they have the most population well thats the way i see it. this is the human dilemma. we are not doing what nature intended "dieing". |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:37 AM Post #41 |
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------------------------- Sorry, don't know what's ahppened to this layout.
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 6 2010, 12:44 AM Post #42 |
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we will always have an enemy in the world because it keeps the balance of nature that we have cheated with our intelegence. the best place to be is a king , queen or some form of goverment because then your delegateing who fights who. ist all a game of chess. what do you think would happen if there was a one world goverment who would we fight then? i cant see it. |
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 12:48 AM Post #43 |
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The sheer arrogance it takes to f*ck up a whole country/continent by deliberate engineering is beyond my imagination. |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 6 2010, 01:02 AM Post #44 |
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if they didnt what would be the alternative? civil war english against english reducing are numbers further but most would attack the rich and the goverment/monarchy. a country continualy needs to grow to meet the demands of the growing populas ie invading other countries like we did colinizing other countries for resources example south africa. we could have just lived of the land and been happy but im sure most of you wouldnt want that pluss the governers need to keep the people ocupied other wise they revolt. the monarchy /goverment kept us as serfs before we was educated so we had to do as we were told then aswell. |
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| English Angel | Apr 6 2010, 01:08 AM Post #45 |
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I cant agree more. When the whole European thing was finally ratified that was the end of hundreds of years of independent British rule. Brussels have overall say now in governing us and making our laws. It doesnt matter who is Prime Minister because theyre not actually in charge! I really do believe that Blair allowed a whole pile of eastern Europeans in though in the early noughties to counteract the number of offspring the Muslims have. After all, the Polish are predominantly Catholic, and he came out himself and converted to Catholicism as soon as he left office. |
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| CINCINNATUS | Apr 6 2010, 01:15 AM Post #46 |
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i thought thats why blair let the eastern europeans in aswell pluss its another way of the goverment building there fourth reich. |
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quote by me "an illusion only works, when one is ignorant to its operation" Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. ENGLAND FOREVER ISLAMIC STATE NEVER. | |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 04:10 AM Post #47 |
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For starters we need to get rid of the people that we don't want here and those that have no right to be here. Can't speak English - OUT Only came here to breed and sponge of our generous benefits system - OUT Allowed to stay here and committed a crime? - OUT You're a wanted terrorist/criminal who faces torture and persecution if we send you home? - OUT We are filling up immigration centres (prisons in reality) with these people and while some of them have a genuine need to stay here the rest need to f**k off and as soon as a decision is made to deport somebody that deportation should be carried out immediately. No f**king about with appeals. Do the job right the first time, if the answer is no then no means no, here's a plane ticket now f**k off! Edit: Get us out of the EU and close down our borders. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 6 2010, 08:06 AM Post #48 |
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Earlier this year there was the revelation that for the past ten years Labour have been importing huge numbers of muslims to ‘rub our noses in diversity’, without any regard to future consequences for the country. Of course, it isn’t the toffs and the metropolitan chattering classes who have had their noses well and truly ground into the shi'ite, it’s the traditional northern and midlands working class Labour voters. The working class is bearing the brunt of Islamic attacks on their kids - of gangs of muslims men beating their sons up, of organised muslim paedo rings raping their daughters, of the muslim heroin problem and of the housing shortage so they can't find anywhere decent to start a family. So why aren’t the Tories using this political dynamite to to demolish Labour’s core vote? Do they approve of what Labour has done? |
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| mostonian | Apr 6 2010, 09:11 AM Post #49 |
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A 20 year moratorium on all immigration Stop the asylum swindle, re -write the human rights act, deport all foreign criminals in British jails and those who have a conviction in the last ten years. Stop all these crazy benefits that encourage mass immigration IE: all new legal immigrants can't claim any benefits until they have paid at least ten years of contributions. Stop translation services, all documents and posters to be in English except for indigenous languages like Scots Welsh and Irish in respective countries. |
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| Capt Haddock | Apr 6 2010, 09:31 AM Post #50 |
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Britain will reach saturation point with immigration within 50yrs, maybe a lot sooner so therefore something has to done to counteract it. Maybe the glorious political useful idiots over in Brussels will consider a child tax for all immigrants to try to stem the tide of the numbers they breed. With recent figures out suggesting London alone is going to need an extra 250 odd schools within a decade to accommodate them, I think it is high time these people actually start making a contribution to society, rather than just putting their legs in the air, and pumping out child after child. |
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