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Boycott oil; it funds terrorism
Topic Started: Apr 5 2010, 09:32 PM (114 Views)
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I know ppl like driving but aren't electric cars a good alternative?
Or have I got this back to front?
Edited by getonwithit, Apr 5 2010, 09:33 PM.
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Hmmmmmmm...

Could be tricky.
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i'm with jeremy clarkson on this one :D
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saw an article somewhere on the factory where they manufacture batteries for electric cars. not sure where, but the landscape surrounding the factory was utterly destroyed. apparently it was to do with the battery production.
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We're at the whims of the oil companies.
With their capital, they have easily bought up any fuel alternative and conveniently shelved it to keep the oil profits going instead of investing, which would cost more money.
But with the trend in action over perceived climate change, companies (notably the car industry) are shifting towards hybrid technology which is good.

One of the popular alternatives, hydrogen, has been in use in Iceland (?), but the technology is still in its infancy. The hard task is being able to keep the hydrogen fuel from seeping out of its containing medium.

But I agree, the less we are reliant on the Middle East (notably the Saudis) the better.
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most of the electric cars cause more damage to produce than runing a normal car on petrol was listening to a program on it the other day making the batteries is the worst part plus the human cost for mineing production and poloution.

http://www.chinamining.org/Companies/2010-03-15/1268618332d34607.html

just one i found straight away^ we are going to have to give up this western lifestyle it is unstainable it will lead further down the path we are on now if we keep using the easts oil. the west is all built on pipe dreams.
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I have never understood why we buy it anyway, let's face it, we find it, we extract it, we refine it, we transport it and then we pay them for it !! Insane, we should just take it, what are they going to do ?

More to the point what are they going to do when it runs out or alternate technologies make it redundant ? How are these countries going to make any money then ? The fun will really begin then.
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Apr 5 2010, 10:19 PM
most of the electric cars cause more damage to produce than runing a normal car on petrol was listening to a program on it the other day making the batteries is the worst part plus the human cost for mineing production and poloution.

http://www.chinamining.org/Companies/2010-03-15/1268618332d34607.html

just one i found straight away^ we are going to have to give up this western lifestyle it is unstainable it will lead further down the path we are on now if we keep using the easts oil. the west is all built on pipe dreams.
I'll check that out. This includes Hybrids like the Prius.etc. too?

If the cost of solar power can be reduced, then that's the way to go. But it's still not cost-effective right now.
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I'm in support of nuclear power and wind farms that are owned by British companies.
So that the money made from them goes back into the economy.

The nimbys who try and stop every single windfarm get on my wick.
(not in my back yard).

I'm not convinced by the climate change malarky, why was it renamed from global warming?
It's just an excuse to make us pay more taxes.
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Apr 5 2010, 10:32 PM
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Apr 5 2010, 10:19 PM
most of the electric cars cause more damage to produce than runing a normal car on petrol was listening to a program on it the other day making the batteries is the worst part plus the human cost for mineing production and poloution.

http://www.chinamining.org/Companies/2010-03-15/1268618332d34607.html

just one i found straight away^ we are going to have to give up this western lifestyle it is unstainable it will lead further down the path we are on now if we keep using the easts oil. the west is all built on pipe dreams.
I'll check that out. This includes Hybrids like the Prius.etc. too?

If the cost of solar power can be reduced, then that's the way to go. But it's still not cost-effective right now.
to many people in this country now to switch over to these different energies price will be huge and would take to long i think.
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Apr 5 2010, 11:00 PM
I'm in support of nuclear power and wind farms that are owned by British companies.
So that the money made from them goes back into the economy.

The nimbys who try and stop every single windfarm get on my wick.
(not in my back yard).

I'm not convinced by the climate change malarky, why was it renamed from global warming?
It's just an excuse to make us pay more taxes.
there was a wind turbine builders in the uk but it couldnt get the funds to continue i read and now the goverment have used a french fim to build the for a offshore windfarm for the uk. il try to find it if i can...
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We need plenty of wind turbines because the oil isn't going to be there much longer, then we won't be able to fly to Spain :(
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Apr 5 2010, 11:10 PM
We need plenty of wind turbines because the oil isn't going to be there much longer, then we won't be able to fly to Spain :(
then we won't be able to fly to Spain :( and there wont be masses of people flying here aswell thats the bright side, but on the downside how the f**k are we going to send all the scum back home though.
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I don't think people realise how dependent we are on oil. The UK doesnt manufacter anything. All those things you see in the shops from your shampoo to tomatoes are shipped to the uk in containers and offloaded via trucks and distributed across the uk via roads. WE are solely dependent on oil to get products on shelves and without it we'd have nothing to buy.

It's very well to say wind and nuclear fuel, but for transportation across the nation we need a renewal source. The reason we go to war ( interesting to note that we are drilling offshore around the falklands to find new reserves)and the reason we deal with these muslim states is because of oil. we buy their oil and with that money they fund terrorist organisations! ( dubai knows its running out, iots why they created a whole new city in the desert, because they needed a new economy not reliant on oil)

its about oil and its about money. there are too many people are are getting rich from the way it stands now, and they aren't going to change anything which effects their money which is in the billions. It's strange because when i was a kid we were always told that oil was running out where is our alternative fuel? Nations such as India and china are on the rise and will consume proportionate more. so you can gather with limited oil resources there's a lot more countries that will be fighting for it.

AS such there is no impetus to change our ways, despite the effect on the environment, terrorism and wars, because people are getting rich from it.

We need to invest in alternative fuels to stop all this and dealing with the devil
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Apr 5 2010, 11:20 PM
beer is gud
Apr 5 2010, 11:10 PM
We need plenty of wind turbines because the oil isn't going to be there much longer, then we won't be able to fly to Spain :(
then we won't be able to fly to Spain :( and there wont be masses of people flying here aswell thats the bright side, but on the downside how the f**k are we going to send all the scum back home though.
I've heard your a dab hand at making rafts out of wood ;)
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Apr 5 2010, 11:20 PM
beer is gud
Apr 5 2010, 11:10 PM
We need plenty of wind turbines because the oil isn't going to be there much longer, then we won't be able to fly to Spain :(
then we won't be able to fly to Spain :( and there wont be masses of people flying here aswell thats the bright side, but on the downside how the f**k are we going to send all the scum back home though.
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has anyone read this book confessions of an economic hitman? been listening to a youtube interview the author makes, it's a fascinating listen and it's all about oil
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Apr 6 2010, 09:07 AM
has anyone read this book confessions of an economic hitman? been listening to a youtube interview the author makes, it's a fascinating listen and it's all about oil
Yes I have read that book, quite interesting I must say. I particularly enjoyed the Saudi explanation for having goats roaming freely around.
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reminds me of enron anybody know about that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zMakN-EMLg
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