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10K at at Demo; how do we get there?
Topic Started: Apr 5 2010, 09:18 PM (395 Views)
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hello ;)

I think every genuine person on this forum knows that 10K on a demo is not unrealistic. So how do we get there? How do we do it?

Two weeks notice isn't enough. Maybe two months with lots of canvassing before?

Ideas welcome people.

10K in 2010 !!!!

No Surrender!!
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the next visit to dudley is in july,if we have as good a turnout from the EDL as we had on saturday and a third of those residents who oppose the mosque turn out, we would have 10,000
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If you do that it will be a great victory for England and for Europe !
The UAF will be shocked, I think their jaw will drop :)
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Another 7/7 type incident would have to happen in my opinion.
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I think it's certainly achievable and hopefully sooner rather than later. There definitely needs to be more stewards so less trouble, although from what I've read, the majority on Saturday were peaceful, it was just the few who were troublemakers, without these though, I think more people would go to demos.

Also I think they should be held on Sundays as too many people struggle with Saturdays (well I do anyway) :(
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i wonder if us who live not far from dudley go over and start putting leaflets through peoples doors
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WOuld have to sort our image out first IMO, a few more good demos first.
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And inviting a few more onto the forum or the fb groups, I've invited someone but although he's applied to the fb group, don't think he's in yet. I'm sure when he gets in, he'll invite his mates.
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birmingham-loyal
Apr 5 2010, 09:27 PM
i wonder if us who live not far from dudley go over and start putting leaflets through peoples doors
What harm could it do?
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For 10K at a demo we have to tighten up on the stewarding - more stewards to clamp down on trouble-makers in our own ranks. We need to make it a family day out - or at least it would be possible to take your family to one of our demo's. Also I think we need a few demo's down south as well to help spread the word. There are towns like Ipswich and Colchester which have seen a big muslim growth in recent years and of course London, Watford, Stevenage and so on.
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for there to be 10k youd need to have a fete or fair day where families can come along. get permision to hold it in a park or even a field near a main road and make it less about protesting a spacific site and more about getting support and spreading awareness of what the edl is about
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EASY....We need to have a safe and totally peaceful demo similar to The House of Lords demo and encourage the lads to bring the WAGS/ KIDS so numbers could swell by three fold...that is providing some of you do have girlfriends
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As we get closer there will be dark forces ranging against us and engaging in various nefarious activities in an attempt to justify proscribing us.

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All the more reason for trying to make it a family occasion. Think of the PR scoop. Young children terrified by the big smelly nasty men throwing things.....bit difficult for the MSM to classify us as far right extremists then...
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there were some families with young children at dudley,iwas at the back as we were walking up the dual carraigeway and there were people with young children and push chairs
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Charles The Hammer
Apr 5 2010, 09:26 PM
Another 7/7 type incident would have to happen in my opinion.
Well lets see what the people of Russia does first.
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10k by the end of summer if not befor imo
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It has to be done at the end of the football season.Possibly one in central London before an England world cup game.
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Could happen at Dudley. People who live in and around Dudley should start leafletting now. Get 5,000 leaflets posted in households, this could get us a couple of thousand of people attending. It would make so much difference.
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or a big one for the football combining the two would be somthing to see
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10000 is a very realistic and easily acievable target. However, in all honesty we are not going to achieve it without conducting several totally trouble free demos which will in turn attract the more 'normal person'. Simple as that.

Without the EDL evolving beyond being a footy/casual group we will remain pulling in the region of 2000-5000 people. This is well and good, but will not make any real difference.

The London demo in the capital and supporting Geert pulled a lot less than 1000. Dudley, the biggest and most important to date pulled in less or the same as Stoke.
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I am having problems with a bit of the edl stance at the moment, thinker not a fighter..

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How does the EDL go about attracting a larger audience. If you want to start trying to get too many student types in than you will lose a lot of the football casual types as people wouldn't want to hang around with people they dont understand or get on with.
Also what type of people are openly patroitic apart from football fans. Its a tough one and i dont know how you would go about getting in a new crowd while keeping the old. At the end of the day Tommy and his boys are football fans themselves.
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We need to get rid of the racist lads, which we are constantly doing. We need to continue to put out leaflets to give us new support. We need to get more stewards to help control the people at demos. Everything is being worked on, we are trying to make ourselves better as an organisation and we are trying to make ourselves more family friendly.
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Apr 6 2010, 09:37 PM
We need to get rid of the racist lads, which we are constantly doing. We need to continue to put out leaflets to give us new support. We need to get more stewards to help control the people at demos. Everything is being worked on, we are trying to make ourselves better as an organisation and we are trying to make ourselves more family friendly.
Thats why the protest needs to been seen and heard by the locals in the town rather than in a car park, but obviously we wont do ourselves any favours by kicking off.
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Apr 5 2010, 09:23 PM
the next visit to dudley is in july,if we have as good a turnout from the EDL as we had on saturday and a third of those residents who oppose the mosque turn out, we would have 10,000
I don't see us attracting a wider audience and getting to 10,000 until we can hold our events and Joe + Joan Public can feel absolutely safe. In my local last night regulars were talking about what had gone on in Dudley and 'nothing but a bunch of thugs' was the sort of comment they were coming out with. The folks in the boozer are the sort of middle Britons who are as concerned about the Islamification of Britaain as me, but all the good stuff that the EDL stand for is being threatened by the sort of rabble who tore down fences, lobbed bits of steel fencing at the police and then proceeded to rampage through Dudley Town Centre after the event. Unfortunately this is not just a Dudley thing, the sort of lowlife who attached themselves to our Dudley demo can be found everywhere. Fingers crossed that the flooding our events with stewards idea works.
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Apr 6 2010, 09:45 PM
beer is gud
Apr 6 2010, 09:37 PM
We need to get rid of the racist lads, which we are constantly doing. We need to continue to put out leaflets to give us new support. We need to get more stewards to help control the people at demos. Everything is being worked on, we are trying to make ourselves better as an organisation and we are trying to make ourselves more family friendly.
Thats why the protest needs to been seen and heard by the locals in the town rather than in a car park, but obviously we wont do ourselves any favours by kicking off.
Tony was told that was the only place we could hold the protest mate.
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Remember the fox hunting ban protest and how many there numbers turned up, how much public damage was caused when it kicked offf down in london. no f**ker said anything.
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Is there no way to bring the bikers on board
I don't mean yer Hells Angels - Satans Slaves - Road Rats etc
Your average biker would be a massive asset to the org and there are
thousands of them :)


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Apr 6 2010, 10:15 PM
Is there no way to bring the bikers on board
I don't mean yer Hells Angels - Satans Slaves - Road Rats etc
Your average biker would be a massive asset to the org and there are
thousands of them :)
The 15k that went through wotten bassett! That would be a sight to see! Made your hair stand on ends when they road through that place even on the news!
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beer is gud
Apr 6 2010, 09:37 PM
We need to get rid of the racist lads, which we are constantly doing. We need to continue to put out leaflets to give us new support. We need to get more stewards to help control the people at demos. Everything is being worked on, we are trying to make ourselves better as an organisation and we are trying to make ourselves more family friendly.
Yea! get rid of all the people who had the bottle to stand up against the Muslimifcation of England, then replace them with politically correct student types and then maybe change the name from the English Defence League (because the word 'English' might be offensive to some of the new supporters). Also the EDL is definitely!, hideously white. Need to replace the young white working class supporters because they're a bit uncouth and might upset the sensibilities of the new EDL supporters Hey! we could call it the UAF instead...... Cut out the heartbeat of the EDL and it will die!
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Apr 6 2010, 10:15 PM
Is there no way to bring the bikers on board
I don't mean yer Hells Angels - Satans Slaves - Road Rats etc
Your average biker would be a massive asset to the org and there are
thousands of them :)
There were a group of bikers at Frankley services fuelling their bikes - they stood and applauded us as our escort moved out.
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WillUstand
Apr 6 2010, 10:15 PM
Is there no way to bring the bikers on board
I don't mean yer Hells Angels - Satans Slaves - Road Rats etc
Your average biker would be a massive asset to the org and there are
thousands of them :)
Funny you should say that....did anyone see that mob of bikers waving at us when the coaches left the services??
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lol you posted before I did MJ!
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There were a group of bikers at Frankley services fuelling their bikes - they stood and applauded us as our escort moved out.

This would not surprise me in the least

They are great guys and value there freedom :)


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Apr 6 2010, 10:33 PM
There were a group of bikers at Frankley services fuelling their bikes - they stood and applauded us as our escort moved out.

This would not surprise me in the least

They are great guys and value there freedom :)
Indeed. Most of the Danish Defence League are Hells Angels and other biker gangs etc.
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Copy & paste
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viking defence league
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=name&id=1356644493#!/pages/VIKING-DEFENCE-LEAGUE-DENMARK/369187438998?ref=mf
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Hungarian Defence League - CLICK

Indian Defence League - CLICK
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Apr 6 2010, 10:02 PM
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Apr 5 2010, 09:23 PM
the next visit to dudley is in july,if we have as good a turnout from the EDL as we had on saturday and a third of those residents who oppose the mosque turn out, we would have 10,000
I don't see us attracting a wider audience and getting to 10,000 until we can hold our events and Joe + Joan Public can feel absolutely safe. In my local last night regulars were talking about what had gone on in Dudley and 'nothing but a bunch of thugs' was the sort of comment they were coming out with. The folks in the boozer are the sort of middle Britons who are as concerned about the Islamification of Britaain as me, but all the good stuff that the EDL stand for is being threatened by the sort of rabble who tore down fences, lobbed bits of steel fencing at the police and then proceeded to rampage through Dudley Town Centre after the event. Unfortunately this is not just a Dudley thing, the sort of lowlife who attached themselves to our Dudley demo can be found everywhere. Fingers crossed that the flooding our events with stewards idea works.
Your so right about that and the middle Britain thing as they don't want islam in the country (unless it's a weekend Curry)but they won't come and join us.
And yes we need the support of Bikers,Sikhs,Hindus and the Afro Carribean's.
Work needs to be done but how.
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Rudeboy, when you want the support of the Hindus, and Sikhs, you come to Leicester, we probably have over a hundred thousand.
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EDL4UK
Apr 6 2010, 09:33 PM
How does the EDL go about attracting a larger audience. If you want to start trying to get too many student types in than you will lose a lot of the football casual types as people wouldn't want to hang around with people they dont understand or get on with.
Also what type of people are openly patroitic apart from football fans. Its a tough one and i dont know how you would go about getting in a new crowd while keeping the old. At the end of the day Tommy and his boys are football fans themselves.
Surely the EDL isn't a group solely for the casuals or footy fans. It is bigger than any of us and the sooner people get over that fact and happily accept the fact we have to evolve and branch out to a wider audience, then the sooner this can be done.

How can you possibly say that only footy fans are patriotic. There are just as many rugby and cricket fans who love this country, not to mention the millions of other people across the country who agree with everything we stand for but currently are scared by our image. Attending a demo should not involve any fighting as there should be no way or actually getting to the opposing group if everyone plays the game unlike at Dudley.

Like I say, the EDL is bigger than a few thousand football lads, and their are so many ways to attract new people, for example. why not stage a static demo and promote it in a fun way. Still keep the speeches, but also provide live music or local bands, refreshments, comedians, etc. There are so many different things we could be doing if we just looked outside the box.
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When we hit 10k on demo's us football 'Lads' will become a minority. How many of us out there will be happy when its our mums, dads, sisters, brothers and cousins that are marching on EDL demo's? Its only when we hit these numbers that it will be truly safe for these people to attend and then true voice of the nation be heard.

On that day, I will be happy.
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