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A statement from Tommy Robinson
Topic Started: Apr 5 2010, 08:14 PM (908 Views)
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Extreme Far Right Nationalists Trying To Recruit EDL Members......BEWARE!

As our movement grows rapidly, as our support grows rapidly, we need to address some concerns with regard to the infiltration of National Socialists.
National Socialism is Fascism, lets make no apologies for a violent racist ideology much akin to Islamism. This white supremacist cancer only seeks to destroy the EDL, people who follow such an ideology cant consider themselves to be EDL members, the EDL have made it plain and clear time and time again that we support Israels right to exist, we have made it plain and clear that we welcome anyone, regardless of race, religion, colour or creed into our ranks as long as they support our aims and objectives. Nazis have no place in the EDL, the EDL want Nazis exposed and ejected from our demonstrations, we want no part in their sickening schemes, we do not want them attaching themselves to the EDL movement, there is no place for racism in the EDL, our diversity and our integrity is our strength. We ask that all members be vigilant as we know that extreme far right groups are out to destroy the EDL, they want to recruit our members into their own fascist cause, the EDL will not tolerate fascism in any form.
My grandparents fought a long and hard war against the Nazis so we can enjoy the freedoms we have today, were it not for the blood sacrifice of our ancestors we would be speaking German and Britain as we know it would not exist today. How can anyone in their right mind support an ideology that caused the deaths of millions upon millions of white, black, and asian peoples? These are just a few examples many more “ethnic groups” were killed because of their beliefs, because of their skin colour, because they were deemed “inferior” to the white man, they were treated like animals and slaughtered like animals simply because fascists wanted to install a new world order based off of racial supremacy. I am PROUD that my ancestors fought against such tyranny, they fought long and hard to free the world from a regime of oppression and ethnic hatred.
Nazi’ism and Islamism are opposite sides of the same coin, both are supremacist in nature, both are ideologically intolerable of “others” who don’t conform. Both have an inherent hatred of Jews.
We as an inclusive movement have to be on guard against such evil forces, we have a duty to uphold our beliefs, we have a duty to protect, encourage and embrace anyone regardless of their ancestry into the fold of the English Defence League. Patriotism is not confined to Nationalism, nor is it confined to skin colour, patriotism transcends such things. If you want to fight for this country we don’t care who you are, where you are from or what beliefs you hold because you are prepared to fight for this country, a patriot stands up for freedom loving people, a patriot stands against fascism in any form whether it be far right or far left.
If there is ever a picture of complete traitorous stupidity this is it....
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/12/27/article-1238213-06DC7B58000005DC-160_634x369.jpg
How can anyone of sound mind burn an Anti-Nazi flag? It beggars belief! This is what the EDL stand for......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkKmzNpUBM4
Ever since we have burnt the Nazi flag in the presence of our Black friends the extreme far right nutjobs of the National Front, Blood And Honour, Combat 18, British Freedom Fighters and other affiliated yet “autonomous” Nationalistic racist groups have come out to cause us trouble. So draconian and out of touch are these Anti-Semites, these racist Nazis have need to prey upon other pro nationalistic/pro patriotic groups to try and turn the heads of the uninformed, to bring them in and actively recruit off the back of EDL success.
If you want to see just how upset white supremacists are with the EDL then look here....
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=642285
For further information on these new “autonomous” racist Nationalistic groups popping up actively recruiting the young and impressionable then look here....
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=693256
The EDL have a duty to inform our members and in particular our young more impressionable members and warn them of the dangers of such groups, they are in no way patriotic or loyal to our cause, they too are the enemy.

Again for clarity the EDL DO NOT SUPPORT OR CONDONE TRAITOROUS NAZIS!!!!
In Luton we have many Islamist troubles that are well documented by the press and by the police, is it no surprise that very little was reported on us running the National Front out of town when they tied to recruit on the back of our demonstrations as the United People Of Luton? Please take time to read this article.....
http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/2311/full
We will not be hijacked by oppressive forces, we will never surrender our cause or our aims for the racist supremacist fascist minority.
Nazi groups like to use numerical symbolism to represent their aims, for example 14/88 which usually refers to 14 words written by David Lane, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." 88 representing David Lane's 88 precepts, or sometimes the eighth letter in the alphabet (h), to represent Heil Hitler. Others say that "88" refers to 88 words from Mein Kampf (author Adolph Hitler) about the supremacy of the white race. Combat 18 use this numerical symbolism to define the 1st and the 8th letter in the alphabet, this refers to Adolph Hitler, a murderous tyrant who was defeated by patriotic Brits and their allies. The EDL do not venerate such an evil man, we despise him and his legacy, we WILL continue to fight against such tyranny.
We advise and implore EDL members to keep away from such groups as they only attract trouble, they only want to cause trouble, and of course they will only get trouble if they continue to threaten our very existence as a social group defending the sovereignty of our lands from the forces of Islamism. We will never surrender ourselves to a Nazi ideology.
As any real member of the EDL will know it is imperative that Nazis are identified to our stewards so we can eject traitorous scum from our ranks and from our demos. The EDL stand for freedom we don’t stand for Nazi’ism.
Long live the free!
E E EDL.....E E EDL.......E E EDL.....E E EDL!!!!!
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For members, we are at the moment looking out for national socialists who have been seen in recent demos, so action is being prepared to be taken.
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Great statement. Defs think it needed to be said, there are definitely some impressionable younger people who can't yet distinguish between us and the far right. It's good to make the distinctions clear.

It's Lisa. Not Leeeeeza
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We are the best hope that this Great nation has of securing the future and security of the English peoples opposed to the tyranny of extremist Islam.

If we fail the whole country fails. We must not let our enemies nor those that would seek to hijack the progress that we are making and use it to their own ends or for their own agendas.

Ours is a struggle that is not about race, colour, gender, sexual or political persuasion. Ours is a struggle for the very survival of the English culture and way of life.

Anybody who is not on board with this stand aside, for there is no room for you in our ranks.

Only together will we defeat the evil that we face, only together will we prevail!

NO SURRENDER!

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isnt that burning of the 'anti nazi' flag a misguided attempt at burning a UAF flag maybe?
its a bit wierd,
they dont look like your textbook nazis?
maybe theyre UAF infiltrators.
that pic dont look right to me?
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EXCELLENT POST

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Edited by Steve Infidel, Apr 5 2010, 08:47 PM.
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clee39
Apr 5 2010, 08:39 PM
isnt that burning of the 'anti nazi' flag a misguided attempt at burning a UAF flag maybe?
its a bit wierd,
they dont look like your textbook nazis?
maybe theyre UAF infiltrators.
that pic dont look right to me?
That was Swansea. Apparently they are well known Nazis and were burning the anti-Nazi flag in direct retaliation to burning the Nazi flag at the press conference.
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Apr 5 2010, 08:42 PM
clee39
Apr 5 2010, 08:39 PM
isnt that burning of the 'anti nazi' flag a misguided attempt at burning a UAF flag maybe?
its a bit wierd,
they dont look like your textbook nazis?
maybe theyre UAF infiltrators.
that pic dont look right to me?
That was Swansea. Apparently they are well known Nazis and were burning the anti-Nazi flag in direct retaliation to burning the Nazi flag at the press conference.
fuk me, nazis have changed since my day :unsure:
they look like theyve just walked right out of shameless!
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Good statement, let's hope this gets through to the younger ones and they realise that they're on the right side with the EDL
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I agree. These people are as likely to turn on the government as are radical islamists in order to promote their agenda... if you wanna play neo-nazi russia is the place for you right now not here
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Well some of these Nazis are easy to spot. At Dudley there was a twat with shorts, Docs with white laces and a blood and honour t-shirt and another with a white pride tattoo on his adams apple and blood and honour tattoos on his hands. Bit of a give away I reckon.
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Apr 5 2010, 09:02 PM
Well some of these Nazis are easy to spot. At Dudley there was a twat with shorts, Docs with white laces and a blood and honour t-shirt and another with a white pride tattoo on his adams apple and blood and honour tattoos on his hands. Bit of a give away I reckon.
i saw that geezer myself
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I see quite a few at Dudley,never seen that many at a demo before so I'm glad this statements come out cos I'm sure none of us want to be associated with these people.
We'll deffinately need more stewards,pref with crowd control or door experience cos if the stewards are gonna be looking to chuck them out I doubt they'll react in a pleasant way tbh.
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I think that as long as people are protesting peacefully then let them.
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Good statement,good timing
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well said :)
ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR MOTHER ENGLAND
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Well said !
And if there is any nazis reading this , you may wish to ask yourself why you idolize a dork such as Adolph Hitler, aside from murdering millions of people, he was also involved in an abusive relationship with his niece Angel ("Gelli") Raubel who later committed suicide as a result - see the book "Hitler's Niece" - additionally one of the reasons he had all the brownshirt leaders executed was'nt just to remove a power block, it was because he had gay relationships with them and did'nt want it to come out.
Furthermore, a major personal reason he hated Jews was that as a young man he had caught syphilis off a Jewish prostitute.
Oh, and whilst I'm demolishing his clean living credentials, he was also addicted to speed (amphetamine) !
Winston Churchill on Islam ; ' The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world....
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And a whole heap of other drugs. He rattled when he walked. His personal doctor injected and fed him a huge cocktail of drugs. And Goering was a cocaine addict who loved to cross-dress - not quite the image of the aryan uber-man is it?
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Tommy's statement now posted at Liberties Alliance: http://www.libertiesalliance.org/2010/04/05/edl-leader-tommy-robinson-issues-anti-nazi-statement/
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nice post !

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= not welcome ... run off back to stromfront now .... don't forget to pick up the toys you've just thrown out of the pram......
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Brilliant statement Tommy. If any Stormfront, Combat18 or NF lads are reading this, f**k OFF, WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE.
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Aeneas Lavinium
Apr 5 2010, 10:29 PM
Nice one! Hopefully this will stop the C18 types coming to our demos.
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Apr 5 2010, 11:18 PM
Brilliant statement Tommy. If any Stormfront, Combat18 or NF lads are reading this, f**k OFF, WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE.
Its been posted on face book as well so they should all get the message YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN OUR ORGANISATION EVER !!!!!
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Apr 5 2010, 08:36 PM
We are the best hope that this Great nation has of securing the future and security of the English peoples opposed to the tyranny of extremist Islam.

If we fail the whole country fails. We must not let our enemies nor those that would seek to hijack the progress that we are making and use it to their own ends or for their own agendas.

Ours is a struggle that is not about race, colour, gender, sexual or political persuasion. Ours is a struggle for the very survival of the English culture and way of life.

Anybody who is not on board with this stand aside, for there is no room for you in our ranks.

Only together will we defeat the evil that we face, only together will we prevail!
I completely agree. 6 months ago I thought there was no hope. But now I have faith in the EDL. I hope everyone else sees that this is what drives us.

I'd like to see something like this as our "mission statement" on the front page. Something to contradict the expectations people bring to the page after some story in the media has prompted them to find out more for themselves.
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At a guess how many far right types does anyone think attend the EDL protests.Does anyone at the top have an idea of the numbers.
And are they a threat to us in a violent way like the UAF and the local muslim population can be. Should we take precautions at future rallies.
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Probably 50ish, but obviously they don't shout their views out aloud, else they'd get kicked out.
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most of the lads i used to know wouldnt have anything to do with the edl coz you are, as far as theyre conserned, as soft as s**te. but they will try to skim a few bodies off the top, mainly the young lads who are still full of beans and just want to be part of something and look up to the tough lads. its how we used to do it back in the old days, get some daft wee kids and fill thier heads full of s**te and make them feel special then slowly draw them in. root the nazis out now before they get enough lads to set up a rival demo and use the edl tag as a face for thier more direct and violent tactics.
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Lone_Wolf, explain to them we are not soft as s**te, but at the end of the day, we don't really want to go around kicking the crap out of people. We can defend ourselves if needed, but ONLY if needed :)
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Apr 5 2010, 09:42 PM
I think that as long as people are protesting peacefully then let them.
Hi Alfred

I disagree. If the EDL allows demonstrators no matter how peaceful to stand within the demo wearing Nazi or white supremacist symbols then all it will do is provide political capital for the organisations opponents. This cannot be allowed to happen.

Best Regards
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not physically, but your idealogy (sp) is too weak and liberal for them. they deal in absolutes and dont descriminate between one **** and another. all it takes if for one of them to get the ear of a kid at a demo and start filling his head with crap about send em all back and they have another soldier. if theres 50 of them at a demo then thats 50 lost every time. most people think the NF is dead but theyre still there, hiding. theyve been waiting for something liek the edl to come long so they can hijack it and use it for themselfs.
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not physically, but your idealogy (sp) is too weak and liberal for them. they deal in absolutes and dont descriminate between one **** and another. all it takes if for one of them to get the ear of a kid at a demo and start filling his head with crap about send em all back and they have another soldier. if theres 50 of them at a demo then thats 50 lost every time. most people think the NF is dead but theyre still there, hiding. theyve been waiting for something liek the edl to come long so they can hijack it and use it for themselfs.
Ah right mate. At the end of the day, I'd encourage anyone who gets spoken to about that, to tell one of the leaders and get the idiot thrown out. No-one would convince me that any person with brown skin is the same as a Muslim or whatever, I know this for sure because I've grown up with Sikh and Hindu lads.
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Well spoken!

Anyone with ancestors who fought and died in the battle against nazism have a duty to continue the fight wherever and whenever it shows up.
Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil – Thomas Mann

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil.... is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

All political parties must be held responsible, and that takes a strong grassroot movement! - Tim Phillips
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I really think a lot of ordinary people, like me, support the aims of the EDL.
The problem is I have been there when certain people have been bouncing up and down singing 'lets all have a disco' and calling it on with whoever. This sort of thing does nothing to attract more ordinary people, and that is who needs to be attracted if its going to be taken seriously by the press and picked up by one of the mainstream parties and less of the disco dollys. Likewise, no one wants to demo with a nazi! so I'm really glad your doing this.
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Apr 5 2010, 09:42 PM
I think that as long as people are protesting peacefully then let them.
Hi Alfred

If the EDL allows demonstrators no matter how peaceful to stand within the demo wearing Nazi or white supremacist symbols then all it will do is provide political capital for the organisations opponents. This cannot be allowed to happen.
I totally agree
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the press love nothing more than to tarnish the EDL with the 'racist', 'thug' or 'nazi' brush, and seriously I'm amazed at the bias I've noticed in the BBC reporting
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We are the best hope that this Great nation has of securing the future and security of the English peoples opposed to the tyranny of extremist Islam.

If we fail the whole country fails. We must not let our enemies nor those that would seek to hijack the progress that we are making and use it to their own ends or for their own agendas.

Ours is a struggle that is not about race, colour, gender, sexual or political persuasion. Ours is a struggle for the very survival of the English culture and way of life.

Anybody who is not on board with this stand aside, for there is no room for you in our ranks.

Only together will we defeat the evil that we face, only together will we prevail!
I completely agree. 6 months ago I thought there was no hope. But now I have faith in the EDL. I hope everyone else sees that this is what drives us.

I'd like to see something like this as our "mission statement" on the front page. Something to contradict the expectations people bring to the page after some story in the media has prompted them to find out more for themselves.
Hear hear, I second that! :)
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Apr 5 2010, 09:42 PM
I think that as long as people are protesting peacefully then let them.
NO! They are scummy people and need to be kept far away, espesialy with tattos and T-s**ts. I wacthed 'the boy in striped pajamas' the other day and I dont want to be protesting next to a guy who gets a hard-on from that film. I side with the UAF on this one guys, Nazis are almost as bad as islamic terrorists.
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Great post. Hope the message gets across to the young ones in particular.

Nazis, look and learn...

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Great post. Hope the message gets across to the young ones in particular.

Nazis, look and learn...

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Well some of these Nazis are easy to spot. At Dudley there was a twat with shorts, Docs with white laces and a blood and honour t-shirt and another with a white pride tattoo on his adams apple and blood and honour tattoos on his hands. Bit of a give away I reckon.
the one with the white pride tatoo on his neck was from birmingham i think as he was on the same train as me from new street and the guy with the b+h t shirt i think he was just a bit of a nutter as when he turned up he came alone then went and sat a fair distance from the edl group that were already there and then i dont think i saw him speak to anyone for over an hour
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Lol nice one Tynie.

But seriously it is funny to watch the irony of Neo-Nazis and Hamas giving these salutes.
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To be fair from reading some of the comments on the EDL forum I think some members could easily side with the supremacists. With such comments as refering to black people as third worlders, etc there does seem to be a mentality that non-whites are less civilised amongst some members. And having read a thread on stormfront before they have people active on this forum and regularly attending demos. Dont expect them to be blatant about it they are very sly and some are willing to play the long game.
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these nazi types have got no support, these nazi types support radical muslims and see them as allies against jews. blood and honour have probably got about 50 supporters throughout the u.k. to be honest they are not worth mentioning, combat 18 was set up by special branch, it`s leader was working for m.i.5 to discredit the nationalist movement, i personally think some of these nazi types have been planted by the uaf, special branch, they are no threat to this country as nobody supports national socialism,i can see very little difference between the politics of national socialism and that of socialism under stalin,if you have anyone doing nazi salutes on your demos i would look towards the uaf for the blame or searchlight, as for the nf they are too busy with elections and the ballot box and wearing suits, which won`t change a thing, as elections are rigged,
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Spot on jmk
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I think that as long as people are protesting peacefully then let them.
Hi Alfred

I disagree. If the EDL allows demonstrators no matter how peaceful to stand within the demo wearing Nazi or white supremacist symbols then all it will do is provide political capital for the organisations opponents. This cannot be allowed to happen.

Best Regards
Hi mate. In hindsight, that was a silly thing of me to say, especially on the same thread as Tommy's statement!

I agree 100%!!
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Well it's a good job I wasn't born in 88?
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To be fair from reading some of the comments on the EDL forum I think some members could easily side with the supremacists. With such comments as refering to black people as third worlders, etc there does seem to be a mentality that non-whites are less civilised amongst some members. And having read a thread on stormfront before they have people active on this forum and regularly attending demos. Dont expect them to be blatant about it they are very sly and some are willing to play the long game.
maybe the 3rd worlders referred to are the somalian muslim gangs?
theyre black people as opposed to asian?
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Well some of these Nazis are easy to spot. At Dudley there was a twat with shorts, Docs with white laces and a blood and honour t-shirt and another with a white pride tattoo on his adams apple and blood and honour tattoos on his hands. Bit of a give away I reckon.
the one with the white pride tatoo on his neck was from birmingham i think as he was on the same train as me from new street and the guy with the b+h t shirt i think he was just a bit of a nutter as when he turned up he came alone then went and sat a fair distance from the edl group that were already there and then i dont think i saw him speak to anyone for over an hour
You're not confusing the lad with 'No Surrender' on his throat are you? He is from Brum and Villa
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what ever happened to all those blokes that had 'cut here' on their throats in the 80's.
they must all be dead or sumat,ive not seen one for years.
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What about the "Love + Hate" on the fingers, whats that all about? Don't see many people with it on themselves nowdays though.
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