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Sexual Perversion in Islam
Topic Started: Apr 5 2010, 04:11 PM (416 Views)
nolongersilent
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i know - and they never can tbh..........
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those buggers seem to find a way :'(
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Well ujac you did say "no one in their RIGHT mind"
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Rules for men having sex with boys
Man-boy sex is institutionalised to the extent that the Islamic rulebook specifies who should and should not be the object of a man's amorous attentions. Apart from the requirement that the boy should be beardless (bacha bereesh), there are also some restrictions regarding family members.

From http://www.al-islam.org/laws/marriage1.html 2414. * If a baligh person commits sodomy with a boy , the mother, sister and daughter of the boy become haraam for him. And the same law applies when the person on whom sodomy is committed is an adult male, or when the person committing sodomy is na-baligh. But if one suspects or doubts whether penetration occurred or not, then the said woman would not become haraam.

2415. * If a person marries the mother or sister of a boy, and commits sodomy with the boy after the marriage, as a precaution, they will become haraam for him.

In other words, if a Muslim dates a woman and finds her kid brother or son attractive, he must choose one or the other. He can't have both.
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In Muslim societies women are kept covered in burkhas, so the prettiest things that most unmarried Muslim men ever see are beardless pre-pubescent boys. Beardless boys are not regarded as male, so sex with them is not considered as homosexuality as it is between adult men.

http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/violent-muslim-homophobia-jihad-against.html


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Hanged for being gay

Consequently, in traditional Muslim societies completely clean shaving is frowned upon, as it sends the wrong messages about sexual availability. If full beards (Taliban-style) are not worn, then moustaches are required.

Muslim clerics are especially fond of little boys, and enjoying them is one of the perks of the job. Muslims get very annoyed if kuffars interfere with their rightful privileges.

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Imam-s-family-custody-protest/article-1823117-detail/article.html

If a boy refuses to have sex with an Imam, he can expect severe punishment.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/1453786/Acid-attack-on-boy-who-refused-sex-with-Muslim-cleric.html
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http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/violent-muslim-homophobia-jihad-against.html
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curiousEDL
Apr 5 2010, 04:49 PM
I think people on here need to be wary of trying to find the worst bits of Islamic teaching and presenting them as evidence on why Islam is bad in this country.
I challenge anyone to find 10 British Muslims who sincerely agree with that sentiment.

No one on here quotes the nasty bits of the bible as evidence of Christianity's problems...
No one on here quotes those wacky American evangelical preachers who hate gays, abortionists, heretics and the like.

If this movement really wants moderate Muslims on board this is not the way to go about it.
Why should the EDL point out the failings of Christianity?

The EDL is against Militant Islam. That is its main aim, that is why issues with Islam are pointed out.

Why do you feel the need to highlight Christianity? Surely that's not the right approach if you want to get moderate Christians on board.
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curiousEDL
Apr 5 2010, 06:30 PM
Paxi Christi - all of your pro Christianity arguments can, and are, applied by Muslim apologists. You can talk about how Christians only use the teachings that hold up in todays soceity. And that's fine, but you need to understand that Muslims do exactly the same thing.

A work colleague of mine is Pakistani born, we got talking about girls, gambling and drinking. After that I said to him, "so you're not a Muslim then". He responded that he is, but has a selective interpretation of the teachings. That sounds like every Christian I know.

The majority of Muslims in this country aren't a problem. Yes their religion has dark roots, but so do all the Abrahimic religions. They come from days where slavery, spreading the gospel by the sword, subjugation of women etc. were all prevalent activities.

And for the record I think badly of all religions, but I don't think Islam is much worse than Christianity. The problem for me is that in the west we have had the renaissance, and the church has lost a hell of a lot of its power. It has also liberalised a lot of teachings (homosexuality and the position of women, for example). This means that the Christian church can exsist in a society that values freedom of speech and expression so highly.

With Islam none of the power has been lost, in the middle east (Saudi, Iran et al) the Religious leaders have a hell of a lot of power, and the only justification they need is the ahadith or the Qu'ran. Also, Islam stands at odds with freedom of speech (Mohammad can't be criticised etc.), freedom of religion (apostasy is a crime) and freedom of expression (dancing is prohibited, as it depiction of the Prophet).
The fact that this country is importing these teachings from the Wahabi school (and other conservative sects), without going being sanitised or made compatible with western values is the problem. Your average British Muslim is not a problem in this country in my opinion.
Anyway, I'm getting miles off point here!
Spot on
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Apr 5 2010, 06:49 PM
Although Christianity has its problems with paedo priests etc the corruption within Islam goes back to its very origin, and runs all the way through.

Islam has no other foundattion than Mohammed's word that he received revelations from Allah, and that he was the 'Perfect Man' and 'Seal of the Prophets' (he trumped Jesus who was relegated to being a minor prophet).

Unfortunately for the credibility of Islam, paedophiles are notorious liars and conmen. The traditional stereotype of the paedo as a wierdo in a dirty raincoat is not always true, and many of them are smooth talkers who appear trustworthy.

Mohammed, the role model for all Muslims, rubbed himself off between Aisha's thighs between the ages of six and nine, and raped her when she was nine. http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/mufa-khathat-cleaning-mess-up.html


The whole Islamic religion rests on the word and example of that pervert.

Again.

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May 29 2010, 04:12 PM
curiousEDL
Apr 5 2010, 06:30 PM
Paxi Christi - all of your pro Christianity arguments can, and are, applied by Muslim apologists. You can talk about how Christians only use the teachings that hold up in todays soceity. And that's fine, but you need to understand that Muslims do exactly the same thing.

A work colleague of mine is Pakistani born, we got talking about girls, gambling and drinking. After that I said to him, "so you're not a Muslim then". He responded that he is, but has a selective interpretation of the teachings. That sounds like every Christian I know.

The majority of Muslims in this country aren't a problem. Yes their religion has dark roots, but so do all the Abrahimic religions. They come from days where slavery, spreading the gospel by the sword, subjugation of women etc. were all prevalent activities.

And for the record I think badly of all religions, but I don't think Islam is much worse than Christianity. The problem for me is that in the west we have had the renaissance, and the church has lost a hell of a lot of its power. It has also liberalised a lot of teachings (homosexuality and the position of women, for example). This means that the Christian church can exsist in a society that values freedom of speech and expression so highly.

With Islam none of the power has been lost, in the middle east (Saudi, Iran et al) the Religious leaders have a hell of a lot of power, and the only justification they need is the ahadith or the Qu'ran. Also, Islam stands at odds with freedom of speech (Mohammad can't be criticised etc.), freedom of religion (apostasy is a crime) and freedom of expression (dancing is prohibited, as it depiction of the Prophet).
The fact that this country is importing these teachings from the Wahabi school (and other conservative sects), without going being sanitised or made compatible with western values is the problem. Your average British Muslim is not a problem in this country in my opinion.
Anyway, I'm getting miles off point here!
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it is nothing like christianity my friend.the teachings are not the same the gospels bring good news.the koran doesnt.let him without sin cast the first stone,that was for compassion to mary magdelen for adultry(not to say go and do it again but ,stop its wrong).forgiveness,we are all sinners.we are all slaves to wrong doing and sin that is what the gospels message is getting across.koran says stone them to death,man does not need to answer because he can sin.
so my friend they are not the same.one is KORAN=hate/kill the other NEW TESTAMENT=is love and forgivness.
EDIT:-when people commit the un thinkable it is not as if all religions are the same its because we are born of natural sin.some religions dont believe in that,so there you go again we are not all the same in religions.
its the depth of your faith that gives you answers not thinking that we are all the same so its easy to answer.

correct me if im wrong you are a muslim or a person who has no/or little faith in any religion.
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Paxi - Nobody is going to do their thesis work leafing through the Bible for all of the ridiculous tripe. I grew up going to church - what a miserable, sexually deprived waste of time that was. Now I know that most people these days don't obey Deuteronomic law and ban dismembered war vets from churches, but that doesn't justify Christianity.

Most rational people just assume that the bit about the seven days, for example, was just allegorical, but then why put it in there? If the Bible is revelation and not just inspirational stuff written by Jewish historians and classical moral reformers, why not say 'well look - those old dinosaur bones you're bound to find when you dig into the ground were from animals that walked the Earth millions of years before mankind evolved'.

At the outset, Islam did well to prevent some of the mistakes made by Christianity, such as the use of symbolism to fetishize Jesus'es family life. I consider the image of the crucifix morbid. However, it also started out much more violent - Islam's M.O. has usually been invasion followed by relatively benign (towards Christians/Jews) occupation in which the religion spread through tax incentives rather than through inspiration. There were periods when Muslim rule was relatively peaceful such as Muslim Cordoba, or during the Ottoman Empire when they had the whirling dervishes and whatnot. This doesn't happen to be one of those periods. When Muslims invaded peace-loving India, they killed, looted, took slaves, and destroyed ancient temples. Christians have been guilty of all of these things, but in India the scale was massive and the peacefulness and advancement of the preceding culture undeniable.
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