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But there is a medicine!; Engalnd problem = Militant islam, Hungarian problem = Gypsies mafia
Topic Started: Apr 4 2010, 04:19 PM (220 Views)
Zsolt71
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Hello everyone,

Excuse me, that it his website I registered it, but a couple of informations would interest you possibly, what Hungarians, as what we battle against the Gypsies. Hungarian big problem the Gypsi mafia. There is a settlement where more are the Gypsy. More are the pillage and they commit a murder. But there is a medicine!

Hungarian Guard! (Magyar Gárda)
This is a totally civil initiation.

http://magyargarda.hu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyar_G%C3%A1rda

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LPQwemF2po

They will be general Parliament elections in Hungary on next weekend! ...and then watch it! ;)
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for 1 thats how hitler set up his national system, not a very good model imho and wouldent last 5 miniutes. and what is it apart from a vigalanti mob? and at what point does this vigalanti mob start making its own laws and punishment? we have the police and courts systems which is more than capable.
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Hi,

You do not understand. I and the guard not Nazi, neither fascist. Jobbik party was very popular under two years. Onto so much, that the polls precedes the present governing party already. The guard helps only it was left alone on Hungarians in the villages. Only the police clashed a year ago. Gypsies because they were protected.

At us his interest for the government, that let there be order. Why? The muslim workforce is cheap one!

You would like this?:

1. BNP 50%
2. Tory 30%
3. Labour 20%

The Whig you are eliminated... :)
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That they have forgotten: Happy Easter to everyone! :)
Edited by Zsolt71, Apr 4 2010, 05:15 PM.
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Zsolt71
Apr 4 2010, 05:15 PM
That they have forgotten: Happy Easter to everyone! :)
Happy Easter to you, too.

I'm not going to jump to any conclusions about this organisation, all I see is another European country

in turmoil by the looks of the scant information. Although the language difference leaves me mainly guessing as to what is what.

People resorting to trying to get the polititians to act and for their troubles they are labelled with the European

bogeyman of...nazi! Same old story in these troubling times.
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:england: :uk: :scotland:

Happy Easter Zsolt71

How did you find the EDL? Press, T.V.?


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Zsolt71
Apr 4 2010, 05:15 PM
That they have forgotten: Happy Easter to everyone! :)
Welcome zsolt71 and a happy easter to you to my friend :welcome:
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I loved the song on the video, nice and rousing, maybe we should have a similar song.
Anybody care to write one?

From what I have read briefly, it looks like they were a political party which was banned,
but reformed as a nationalist movement.

I suppose the OP is trying to exchange support with us.
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WillUstand
Apr 4 2010, 06:20 PM
:england: :uk: :scotland:

Happy Easter Zsolt71

How did you find the EDL? Press, T.V.?
Hi WillUstand,

Yes, I saw in alternative media and I read it EDL events. The general media keeps silent! I have an acquaintance in England, who writes about EDL to me. Interesting, but the East Europian young persons all agree EDL with action one!
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lordy
Apr 4 2010, 04:27 PM
for 1 thats how hitler set up his national system, not a very good model imho and wouldent last 5 miniutes. and what is it apart from a vigalanti mob? and at what point does this vigalanti mob start making its own laws and punishment? we have the police and courts systems which is more than capable.
Whilst I agree with you I can see why these things happen. At what point will the British Public decide that the Govt, Law and Police are not acting in their best interests and respond in kind against an ideology that is hell bent on destroying all of our values and freedoms? I think it is inevitable, every time we try to understand them, try to work with them, give them a little more of what they are asking forthey demand MORE AND MORE.
As with bringing up children there comes a point where they go to far and get punished.
Gin & Tonic Division
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Zsolt71
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We protected Europe already old times ago, against the Muslim conquest! :)

Check this:
http://www.budpocketguide.com/TouristInfo/famous/Famous_Hungarians16.asp

:)

Why do I write to you? Why I am watching it what happens in England? I would not like the English culture disappears!
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Zsolt71
Apr 5 2010, 12:14 PM


Why do I write to you? Why I am watching it what happens in England? I would not like the English culture disappears!
That's very commendable, Zsolt, no European culture should be allowed to disappear and

by the grace of God and England and Europe's finest we won't allow it.
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lordy
Apr 4 2010, 04:27 PM
for 1 thats how hitler set up his national system, not a very good model imho and wouldent last 5 miniutes. and what is it apart from a vigalanti mob? and at what point does this vigalanti mob start making its own laws and punishment? we have the police and courts systems which is more than capable.
"we have the police and courts systems which is more than capable."

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Now that really is a blinder, cheers lordy.
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Apr 5 2010, 12:21 PM
Zsolt71
Apr 5 2010, 12:14 PM


Why do I write to you? Why I am watching it what happens in England? I would not like the English culture disappears!
That's very commendable, Zsolt, no European culture should be allowed to disappear and

by the grace of God and England and Europe's finest we won't allow it.
Let him be your truth.
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Apr 5 2010, 12:28 PM
lordy
Apr 4 2010, 04:27 PM
for 1 thats how hitler set up his national system, not a very good model imho and wouldent last 5 miniutes. and what is it apart from a vigalanti mob? and at what point does this vigalanti mob start making its own laws and punishment? we have the police and courts systems which is more than capable.
"we have the police and courts systems which is more than capable."

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Now that really is a blinder, cheers lordy.
lol

:D
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Zsolt71

Hungarian Guard! (Magyar Gárda)

Good to have you here :welcome:


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My girlfriend in Prague is telling me about Jobbik as I write, I am going to keep an eye on this.
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Are you ok with the NON-mafia side of the Gypsies, Zsolt?
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Doesn't sound like something I'd support:

Rise of Anti-Semitic Party Darkens Hungary's Elections
On March 15th, tens of thousands of people filled the streets of Hungary's beautiful capital Budapest, ostensibly to celebrate the 162nd anniversary of the 1848-1948 revolution and war of independence. Among the many events commemorating this anniversary across city, a multitudinous political rally for the far-right party Jobbik garnered the most attention, as restless young supporters showed up sporting Hitler-like mustaches and army fatigues to hear the party leader Gábor Vona threaten retribution against corrupt lawmakers and "gypsy criminality." With a parliamentary election coming up on April 11th, this increasingly popular nationalist party is sending a shock through minority communities in Hungary.

Some observers say we shouldn't worry about Jobbik. The party is making an effort to portray itself as a normal, mainstream conservative party, but this thought disappears whenever Vona speaks in public: one of his favorite refrains is that "Hungary is for Hungarians," and that the country must be stoutly defended from outside "foreign speculators," often pointing to some imagined evil agenda of Israel in Central Europe. He has drawn up a long list of enemies (including the United States), and said he would shut down several television stations once in power. Given that the party is linked with the violent paramilitary brigade "Magyar Gárda," which was banned last summer, these promises of violence are not just idle talk.

So there is a potentially threatening anti-Semitic political sentiment rising once again in Hungary, what else is new? Well it seems that this time things are different, as Jobbik is feared to headed toward winning as much as 20% of the vote in the upcoming April elections, giving them a significantly powerful block in parliament capable of great damage.

Considering the widespread alarm recently displayed following Jean-Marie Le Pen's National Front party comeback in France which netted less than 12% of the national vote across all regions, we are looking at a situation which could be twice as bad in terms of seats - with Jobbik's militaristic rhetoric and hate speech several notches above Le Pen's brand of anti-immigrant xenophobia.
Hungarian and Central European Jewish communities are on red alert. Writing for the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Ruth Ellen Gruber interviews the academic Andras Kovacs of the Central European University: "Jobbik frequently uses anti-Semitic rhetoric, not directly but through code words and references, as well as symbols and appearances. (...) This is frightening for the Jewish population." Kovacs continued, "Loud verbal anti-Semitism can lead to a very polarized and intense atmosphere, which in turn could facilitate, for example, anti-Jewish street violence."

One example of the symbols appropriated by Jobbik has been the the flag of the Árpád Stripes, frequently carried by their supporters at rallies and often among the outlawed Hungarian Guard themselves. Though the origin of the flag has a deeply convoluted historical roots going back to the foundation of Hungarian national identity, it is most well known to remind people of the Arrow Cross Party, which for seven months in 1944-1945 formed an alliance with the Nazis. Whether or not the Arpad Stripes are an emblem of fascism may be up for debate, but for some the implication is clear.

The political gains of Jobbik are no accident, however, as dismal governance and poor economic management by the ruling Socialists (MSZP) party widely opened up the political field for certain victory for the center-right party Fidesz, which made a decision early on to run on almost no campaign, and ambiguously slide toward the majority vote. However few were able to predict just how strongly Jobbik would be able to pick off the Fidesz margins and overpass the left's share of the vote - thanks in part to apathy and lower turnout. The current political concern is whether or not Fidesz will have to tilt further to the right and appeal to some of Jobbik's base - though the party has ruled out any ruling coalition with the extremists. Oddly, the future of Hungary's parliament will depend in large in the many voters who have chosen to stay home, or those willing to make a last minute switch to Fidesz to avoid more seats for Jobbik.

Even if the nationalist sensation currently subsuming Hungary did not feature the trappings of racism and anti-Semitism, the rise of Jobbik bodes ill for the country's young membership in the European Union and its democratic and institutional future. Gábor Vona has pledged to "radically" reorient the country's foreign policy toward the East, meaning the Moscow would gain control over a critical Central European state and look to continue its energy exploitation of the country which began under the defeated socialist Ferenc Gyurcsány, while hostile relations with Brussels, Washington, and the IMF are unlikely to help return Hungary to the path of economic growth and institutional stability.

To get a sense of the turning tide in Hungary, look no further than the treatment of Mayor of Budapest Gábor Demszky, a former anti-Communist hero, who was booed and harassed by angry crowds before his speech on the March 15 National Day. "The more seats Jobbik wins in parliament, the worse for the Hungarian nation and the more vulnerable Hungarian democracy will become," he said, summarizing the central concern of this election.

Both Europe and the international community would do well to consider Demszky's warning very carefully.

Photo credit: A supporter of the Hungarian radical right-wing party "Jobbik" attends a rally in Budapest October 23,2009, as Hungary commemorates the 53rd anniversary of the 1956 revolution against Soviet rule. Jobbik has three seats in European Parliament. The words read "my honour is my loyalty".
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Well Dutchy lad we shall see shan't we. It seems it will all boil down to a choice between sitting, starving and being invaded but with your last breath saying "well at least I've been awfully nice to the people taking the jobs and houses, God forbid someone calls me a racist"....cough, cough....(sound of death rattle)...fade out...cut !

Or the other choice of "oi, this is wrong on so many levels and I just want to feed and house my children, so just f**k off and I don't care about your opinion"

I suppose it depends on how much you love your neighbours and children. Love your children and be called a racist, or be a pathetic wimp because name calling from people in ivory towers really will hurt you.

We are all going to have this choice to make I fear.
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