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Dudley problems we witnessed
Topic Started: Apr 3 2010, 07:07 PM (2,567 Views)
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Me and the girlfriend went to the Dudley demonstration today for the EDL protest. The speekers had plenty to say that makes sense, I enjoyed the speeches but I can't understand for the life of me why one guy in particular decided to attack the fencing and lift it from the ground in a rage like he was off his head.

The speeches were taking place and to the left of the stage area as you look the stage, this one guy also attacked another guy with a camera. We were gobsmacked at both the rage he displayed towards the fence and then after the fence got vandalised by him how he went then to create an unprovoked attack on a random guy with a camera. A marshall also got attacked with a broken bottle and needed emergency treatment and then you had different groups from the EDL area running to the other side of the event and pulling the barriers down to try and get out. the speeches had not finished and to us we thought they were only after trouble. The speakers on the stage did their best to tell them to come back but they did not listen. There were children in prams about 2yrs old and now only in heinsight we think they should never have been in the demonstration area because when trouble starts through no fault of anybodies apart from certain stupid idiotic individuals, how can the EDL guarentee peoples safety, I think parents need to think seriously about the troubles and think about the troubles that start out of the blue because inocent people got hurt today and it is only because we witnessed the unprovoked attack next to the stage that we have decided not to attend any more protests.

Some of you might say "Oh well we don't need you anyway" well to those people who think like that, you are what is the problem for the EDL!!!!

Untill the EDL sort out their trouble makers, we won't be going to another demonstration but will follow it through the internet on both forums and news channels.

It is a shame that even the EDL's own marshalls get attacked by what seems to be their own people. We think that each and every EDL protestor has a duty to help keep the peace and to help towards stopping the trouble makers. We also think the EDL leadership need to rethink its strategies that the whole EDL need to band together in some other ways to compliment the marshelling and to identify and stop this stupidity in its tracks.

This is our view based on what we experienced today in Dudley.

Edited by Ian JL, Apr 3 2010, 07:16 PM.
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I think colours play a part in English but cultures should be allowed to stay unchallenged and without prejudice in anybodies native country.
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Can I just say mate, we don't want idiotic trouble makers here. I totally respect your decision for not wanting to attend another protest, but anyone can turn up at one of our protests and kick off, we just have to try our best to stop them, which our stewards did and one ended up getting bottled for it.
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Apr 3 2010, 07:10 PM
Can I just say mate, we don't want idiotic trouble makers here. I totally respect your decision for not wanting to attend another protest, but anyone can turn up at one of our protests and kick off, we just have to try our best to stop them, which our stewards did and one ended up getting bottled for it.
I totally understand your dilema and we think its going to be a tough one to sort out. Keep up the good work.
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sorry to hear that m8. real shame :(
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Mate on behalf of All the decent and genuine members of the EDL, I'm sorry for all the trouble you have seen today. Can't beleive the behavior of some protesters, don't they understand the damage they do to us? Anyone Reading who did cause trouble today, f**k off your not wanted here and do us a favour and don't show up.
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The UAF will be all over this that's for sure.
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do we no that they were edl for sure and not sent to start trouble?
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Apr 3 2010, 07:34 PM
do we no that they were edl for sure and not sent to start trouble?
I have just read in another thread that some Dudley youth locals were there and they only came along looking for a fight. I don't know if they caused any trouble though.
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I am sure that when everybody gets back from the day in Dudley that other people will have witnessed what we saw as well but the guy we were on about was about 30-40 and he looked very much part of the EDL.

Hopefully someone could identify him and have words with him. Sometimes emotions run high but its no excuse for his behaviour, If the man knows he did wrong out of high passions then perhaps he could identify himself and appologise for his behaviour if he was EDL.

Everybody can make mistakes but it takes a real man to own up to them and he was certainly a man by image if not by nature.
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Ian JL: Don`t know if its the same camera person - but there was a press photographer near the stage who had not been invited. He was asked to leave and said he wasn`t going anywhere. We have official EDL press - and univited people will be escorted out of the demo.
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The guy who was hit by a bottle is ok. I spoke to him near the end.
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Some people should hang their head in shame after today , absolute disgrace and thats putting it lightly . Throwing bricks at the police ? Why ? After today I am never going again EVER.
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I was peed off after the events at Stoke and vowed not to go to another EDL demo, however looking at reports from Bolton + London and given that I live in Dudley I thought I would go along today and give it another chance. The muster and march to the car park seemed very good humored. Things went sour after the speeches started. A lot of the 'yoofs' standing round me , who were mostly locals, seemed to lose interest in what was being said, after which at various times during the afternoon the event seemed close to boiling over. Fortunately the Police managed to just about keep a lid on things and the guys on the PA , and EDL stewards did a good job to try and gets things back on track. I was one of the last folks to leave the car park and had to pick my way through lengths of safety fencing that had been pushed over. In the distance I could see a breakaway mob of supposedly EDL trying to break the police lines and get into the Town Centre.

I have very mixed views on today's events. Felt very proud to be part of something worthwhile during the first part, felt pretty disillusioned again by the end of the day. Unfortunately it is the less savoury side of today’s events that will get the media coverage. The folks creating problems today were locals, which I suspect was the case in Stoke. If anyone has any bright ideas how we stop them spoiling our events can they let the 'powers that be' know please, otherwise we are going to lose public support.
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Right just got back from Dudley and before I say anything else, Id just like to say:

TO THE f**kING SPINELESS WANKER c**tS WHO ATTACKED THE STEWARDS, WHY DON'T YOU f**k OFF AND DIE YOU TOTAL f**kING DILDO BRAINED ARSEHOLES. THERE WAS f**kING KIDS THERE AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF f**kING PENSIONERS. STAY OFF THE BEER AND CHARLIE IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT. GIVE YOURSELVES A BIG PAT ON THE BACK FOR RUINING ALL THE HARD WORK PEOPLE HAD PUT INTO THE DAY. TOSSERS!

Right now that's out of the way......apart from all that I had a great day. Top turn out, loads of locals cheering us on while we were on the way there in the coaches, pretty decent old bill, great speech by that Asian lass and above all the rain stayed off until we left. Bring on Aylesbury!

PS Wozcat wants his banana back! LMAO!!
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Seriously though I am not going to pull any punches here as there were individuals there today who had little to NO interest in what was being said nor the actually peaceful demonstration , no there soul aim was to cause a riot plain & simple . I nearly got hit with a full house brick chucked by some complete s**thouse who I hope has his door taken off by the OB . Your scum nothing more nothing less . We where let down BADLY today by a fringe element of cowards .
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henchman, was it at the demo where he threw the brick? I would have beat the crap out of the moron.
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Apr 3 2010, 07:44 PM
Ian JL: Don`t know if its the same camera person - but there was a press photographer near the stage who had not been invited. He was asked to leave and said he wasn`t going anywhere. We have official EDL press - and univited people will be escorted out of the demo.
It was a video camera guy not a photographer. The way this camera guy was handled certainly did not reflect any stewarding personel, the guy was a thug down and out and I hope for the sake of the EDL that the thug was not EDL but I have a strange feeling he was there to support the EDL and I am sure he had a black top on but I don't know if it was just plain black or EDL. Perhaps somebody else might be able to shed light on the subject later if this thread gets around.
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Ian JL, I respect your concern and appreciate you giving what seems to be a full and well illustrated report. I do however think it is more than a little unfair to blame the EDL as an organisation for the outbreak of unrest. The EDL facilitates these demos and is learning to police them as best it can but cannot be held responsible for the behaviour of all the people that turn up... surely !

If you go to a club and see a fight in the queue to get in is that the fault of the club ? Is a fight in the club itself again the fault of the club.

Now I am not going to say that it was "high spirits" or "emotion" that caused the unrest, I will not even blame the morons' parents or the fact they eat too much processed food although in truth I would probably have a valid case.

No, the fact is these morons are most certainly not regular contributors to the forum, if they are I would be stunned. No, my money is on them being local Jack the Biscuits that almost certainly need to get out more. To the zoo preferably where hopefully they can swap places with a few chimps that are smarter than them that we can bring on future demos.

As for "it's time for a serious rethink on tactics I reckon" , what do you suggest Southern-Loyal ? Just stay at home in case a couple of nutters show up ? Each demo is larger than the one before, and this will become a thing of the past as the support grows wildly. This Jack the Biscuit behaviour will simply be seen as ridiculous at best and treachery at worst.

I have said it before and will say it again, anyone whose conduct is detrimental to the good name of the EDL and hampers additional support is quite simply a traitor to England.
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I'm also sorry that a member of the EDL was harmed by a fellow member. But...

If you are going to be like Lambs and stand in an orderly fashion doing nothing, you are NOT going to stop Mosques being built.

You all well know Brown and Cameron are Leftie Muslim appeasers and you are playing right into their hands by being passive and just miming to the words.
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Anumber1: Well put.
Oh, and southern_loyal won`t be replying to your question. ;)
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lol has his mask fell right off then? :D
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Just read henchman's comments.....What is with with the Midlands, Stoke and now Dudley ? The muslims can have you as far as I am concerned if this is your idea of defending England.

It reminds me of a Scottish mate of mine who was a QPR fan in the 90s, he told me that everywhere in the country was fine to visit and have a few beers....except the midlands. He told me that it just wasn't worth the trouble, I am beginning to see what he meant.

Pathetic, just pathetic.

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Apr 3 2010, 07:07 PM
Me and the girlfriend went to the Dudley demonstration today for the EDL protest. The speekers had plenty to say that makes sense, I enjoyed the speeches but I can't understand for the life of me why one guy in particular decided to attack the fencing and lift it from the ground in a rage like he was off his head.

The speeches were taking place and to the left of the stage area as you look the stage, this one guy also attacked another guy with a camera. We were gobsmacked at both the rage he displayed towards the fence and then after the fence got vandalised by him how he went then to create an unprovoked attack on a random guy with a camera. A marshall also got attacked with a broken bottle and needed emergency treatment and then you had different groups from the EDL area running to the other side of the event and pulling the barriers down to try and get out. the speeches had not finished and to us we thought they were only after trouble. The speakers on the stage did their best to tell them to come back but they did not listen. There were children in prams about 2yrs old and now only in heinsight we think they should never have been in the demonstration area because when trouble starts through no fault of anybodies apart from certain stupid idiotic individuals, how can the EDL guarentee peoples safety, I think parents need to think seriously about the troubles and think about the troubles that start out of the blue because inocent people got hurt today and it is only because we witnessed the unprovoked attack next to the stage that we have decided not to attend any more protests.

Some of you might say "Oh well we don't need you anyway" well to those people who think like that, you are what is the problem for the EDL!!!!

Untill the EDL sort out their trouble makers, we won't be going to another demonstration but will follow it through the internet on both forums and news channels.

It is a shame that even the EDL's own marshalls get attacked by what seems to be their own people. We think that each and every EDL protestor has a duty to help keep the peace and to help towards stopping the trouble makers. We also think the EDL leadership need to rethink its strategies that the whole EDL need to band together in some other ways to compliment the marshelling and to identify and stop this stupidity in its tracks.

This is our view based on what we experienced today in Dudley.

Ian jl.

Mates don’t let a few total wankers ruin your day out mate. You MUST keep attending the demos if you believe in the cause. Our / YOUR country is at stake. Imagine if all those brave Englishman from the past gave up because of a few tossers. Keep fighting mate it's our only chance.

Regarding the tossers who started all this. There will be plenty of video and images about and the EDL leadership should post those on the web site and get people to shop them and give the information to the police. The papers will be full of this s**t tomorrow. WANKERS!
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Apr 3 2010, 08:21 PM
I'm also sorry that a member of the EDL was harmed by a fellow member. But...

If you are going to be like Lambs and stand in an orderly fashion doing nothing, you are NOT going to stop Mosques being built.

You all well know Brown and Cameron are Leftie Muslim appeasers and you are playing right into their hands by being passive and just miming to the words.
I agree but violence and attacking other members and glassing stewards is going to knock us back Further.
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Apr 3 2010, 08:26 PM
Just read henchman's comments.....What is with with the Midlands, Stoke and now Dudley ? The muslims can have you as far as I am concerned if this is your idea of defending England.

It reminds me of a Scottish mate of mine who was a QPR fan in the 90s, he told me that everywhere in the country was fine to visit and have a few beers....except the midlands. He told me that it just wasn't worth the trouble, I am beginning to see what he meant.

Pathetic, just pathetic.

Don't generalise please mate - it's not useful.
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Apr 3 2010, 08:21 PM
I'm also sorry that a member of the EDL was harmed by a fellow member. But...

If you are going to be like Lambs and stand in an orderly fashion doing nothing, you are NOT going to stop Mosques being built.

You all well know Brown and Cameron are Leftie Muslim appeasers and you are playing right into their hands by being passive and just miming to the words.
So Saunders me old mucker, you reckon that going toe to toe with Plod and trying to fight our own IS going to stop mosques being built and get us loads more support.

Well General I have news for you, and it ain't good..

You haven't got a clue have you ?
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Apr 3 2010, 08:26 PM
Just read henchman's comments.....What is with with the Midlands, Stoke and now Dudley ? The muslims can have you as far as I am concerned if this is your idea of defending England.

It reminds me of a Scottish mate of mine who was a QPR fan in the 90s, he told me that everywhere in the country was fine to visit and have a few beers....except the midlands. He told me that it just wasn't worth the trouble, I am beginning to see what he meant.

Pathetic, just pathetic.

Was you there ? Did you witness what I witnessed ?
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Apr 3 2010, 08:26 PM
Just read henchman's comments.....What is with with the Midlands, Stoke and now Dudley ? The muslims can have you as far as I am concerned if this is your idea of defending England.

It reminds me of a Scottish mate of mine who was a QPR fan in the 90s, he told me that everywhere in the country was fine to visit and have a few beers....except the midlands. He told me that it just wasn't worth the trouble, I am beginning to see what he meant.

Pathetic, just pathetic.

What are you trying to say ? The worst outbreaks of violence have occurred in the midlands , this is fact not something I have made up . If in future violence breaks out in any other part of the Country I will be equally as quick to call out the perpetrators . This isnt a witch hunt mate . Keep it PEACEFUL otherwise dont bother .
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Apr 3 2010, 08:21 PM
I'm also sorry that a member of the EDL was harmed by a fellow member. But...

If you are going to be like Lambs and stand in an orderly fashion doing nothing, you are NOT going to stop Mosques being built.

You all well know Brown and Cameron are Leftie Muslim appeasers and you are playing right into their hands by being passive and just miming to the words.
Agreed.

There is only so much you can take before our anger levels boil over.
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English Born S, what do you suggest?

Being passive will get us nowhere, the UAF will just say, quote "we chased them out of town"

More Mosques will be built and the Muslims will take over.

You would be correct in saying blood is running high, but we need Blood to run high and getting hit by friendly fire is just one of the consequences of WAR.

Because my Patriotic friend, we are fighting for our very survival!
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Apr 3 2010, 08:28 PM
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Apr 3 2010, 08:26 PM
Just read henchman's comments.....What is with with the Midlands, Stoke and now Dudley ? The muslims can have you as far as I am concerned if this is your idea of defending England.

It reminds me of a Scottish mate of mine who was a QPR fan in the 90s, he told me that everywhere in the country was fine to visit and have a few beers....except the midlands. He told me that it just wasn't worth the trouble, I am beginning to see what he meant.

Pathetic, just pathetic.

Don't generalise please mate - it's not useful.
I understand your point Rudyard, however I am merely stating facts and it is unfortunate that I can be a trifle honest with my opinions at times. One of my closest comrades in arms on this forum is from the midlands so I am likely to get a pm from him at some point telling me how wrong I am ;))

But hey, I just call it as I see it and if anyone can prove my facts to be wrong I am certainly man enough to apologise on here and in full.

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Apr 3 2010, 08:37 PM
Anumber1
Apr 3 2010, 08:26 PM
Just read henchman's comments.....What is with with the Midlands, Stoke and now Dudley ? The muslims can have you as far as I am concerned if this is your idea of defending England.

It reminds me of a Scottish mate of mine who was a QPR fan in the 90s, he told me that everywhere in the country was fine to visit and have a few beers....except the midlands. He told me that it just wasn't worth the trouble, I am beginning to see what he meant.

Pathetic, just pathetic.

What are you trying to say ? The worst outbreaks of violence have occurred in the midlands , this is fact not something I have made up . If in future violence breaks out in any other part of the Country I will be equally as quick to call out the perpetrators . This isnt a witch hunt mate . Keep it PEACEFUL otherwise dont bother .
Hey dude,

Please re-read what I wrote, I am agreeing with you, that's why Rudyard has got on my case.

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Henchman mate don't give up! Or don't attend another couple of protests, see if anything happens at them, then come again.

All I can say is, out of 3000 people, you are bound to get at least 20 dicks aren't you, nothing can ever be done about that, especially if there new or local people.
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Apr 3 2010, 08:43 PM
Henchman mate don't give up! Or don't attend another couple of protests, see if anything happens at them, then come again.

All I can say is, out of 3000 people, you are bound to get at least 20 dicks aren't you, nothing can ever be done about that, especially if there new or local people.
can only agree with that! Even if he is the top poster today!! :D
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Lmao little git! One day I will be standing side by side with you MJ. I don't know when it will be, but I will, definitely within the next year.

Pretty good day overall, just a couple of hitches by mindless thugs, but nothing THAT major in my opinion :)
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Apr 3 2010, 08:43 PM
Henchman mate don't give up! Or don't attend another couple of protests, see if anything happens at them, then come again.

All I can say is, out of 3000 people, you are bound to get at least 20 dicks aren't you, nothing can ever be done about that, especially if there new or local people.
beer is gud, you seem to have a diplomatic head upon your shoulders, I think you will go a long way with your ways of thinking. For now I will be following from the sidelines and I do have a view that the future should sort things out.
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Well I am only 16, so by the time I am 20, I should be running this country.

If not the country, then EDL! :D
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Apr 3 2010, 08:39 PM
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Apr 3 2010, 08:26 PM
Just read henchman's comments.....What is with with the Midlands, Stoke and now Dudley ? The muslims can have you as far as I am concerned if this is your idea of defending England.

It reminds me of a Scottish mate of mine who was a QPR fan in the 90s, he told me that everywhere in the country was fine to visit and have a few beers....except the midlands. He told me that it just wasn't worth the trouble, I am beginning to see what he meant.
Don't generalise please mate - it's not useful.
I understand your point Rudyard, however I am merely stating facts and it is unfortunate that I can be a trifle honest with my opinions at times. One of my closest comrades in arms on this forum is from the midlands so I am likely to get a pm from him at some point telling me how wrong I am ;))

But hey, I just call it as I see it and if anyone can prove my facts to be wrong I am certainly man enough to apologise on here and in full.
To be honest, I didn't see any facts stated - just a gross generalisation about the midlands, based upon a few idiots in Stoke and a few idiots in Dudley - and your Scottish mate's opinion! :)

I hope your midlands mate kicks you in the goolies! :D
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We were there today, and a shameful display from some sections of the crowd, but I can say for certainly they were not on the coaches which were parked up. They were not wearing EDL gear, they were not EDL.
Yes we had massive numbers today but regrettably a quarter were local thugs and racists who were hell bent on trouble, they were causing it on the way to the demo also and should have been evicted then but they were in very big numbers and the stewards were unable to control or evict them.
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Most of it is just young uns, they've got a bit of fire in their belly and get a bit excited and ran into their own town centre dont get so worked up about it. How many arrest? 7. Thats f**k all compared to the UAF last time they cant talk can they.
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Very good point mate, only 7 arrests today.

How many stewards were there today?
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Cops unable to stop us!
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just back from dudley a bunch of f**king idiots spoiled what would have been a very good day,i was told that the ones that caused the trouble were welsh football firms,if this is the case,f**kOFF we dont want you and we dont need you,i can state for a fact that there will be very few of the lancashire division going to cardiff that's how f**king annoyed the lads are ,so thanks a bunch you f**king idiots for attacking good lads you've ruined what would have been a brilliant day for the EDL.
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I agree Rudyard a revolution is coming and Geert will be in the thick of it.

Well done the Midland lads, today you have done us proud.
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Apr 3 2010, 08:39 PM
English Born S, what do you suggest?

Being passive will get us nowhere, the UAF will just say, quote "we chased them out of town"

More Mosques will be built and the Muslims will take over.

You would be correct in saying blood is running high, but we need Blood to run high and getting hit by friendly fire is just one of the consequences of WAR.

Because my Patriotic friend, we are fighting for our very survival!
^ this

Keyboard warriors on here make me laugh.

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Apr 3 2010, 07:07 PM
Me and the girlfriend went to the Dudley demonstration today for the EDL protest. The speekers had plenty to say that makes sense, I enjoyed the speeches but I can't understand for the life of me why one guy in particular decided to attack the fencing and lift it from the ground in a rage like he was off his head.

The speeches were taking place and to the left of the stage area as you look the stage, this one guy also attacked another guy with a camera. We were gobsmacked at both the rage he displayed towards the fence and then after the fence got vandalised by him how he went then to create an unprovoked attack on a random guy with a camera. A marshall also got attacked with a broken bottle and needed emergency treatment and then you had different groups from the EDL area running to the other side of the event and pulling the barriers down to try and get out. the speeches had not finished and to us we thought they were only after trouble. The speakers on the stage did their best to tell them to come back but they did not listen. There were children in prams about 2yrs old and now only in heinsight we think they should never have been in the demonstration area because when trouble starts through no fault of anybodies apart from certain stupid idiotic individuals, how can the EDL guarentee peoples safety, I think parents need to think seriously about the troubles and think about the troubles that start out of the blue because inocent people got hurt today and it is only because we witnessed the unprovoked attack next to the stage that we have decided not to attend any more protests.

Some of you might say "Oh well we don't need you anyway" well to those people who think like that, you are what is the problem for the EDL!!!!

Untill the EDL sort out their trouble makers, we won't be going to another demonstration but will follow it through the internet on both forums and news channels.

It is a shame that even the EDL's own marshalls get attacked by what seems to be their own people. We think that each and every EDL protestor has a duty to help keep the peace and to help towards stopping the trouble makers. We also think the EDL leadership need to rethink its strategies that the whole EDL need to band together in some other ways to compliment the marshelling and to identify and stop this stupidity in its tracks.

This is our view based on what we experienced today in Dudley.

sorry to see your stance, but being there as well you have to put things into perspective.
The majority were well behaved, and the trouble makers were not EDL.
I note your avatar and your message saying England will not fade away, or words to that effect, yet that is what you are doing. This is something worth fighting for and if people run at every hiccup we may as well throw our hands up ad welcome in an islamic state.
This was another great day for edl, huge support, all the locals cheering us on so come on decent people keep coming we need you.
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Ian JL
Apr 3 2010, 07:41 PM
I am sure that when everybody gets back from the day in Dudley that other people will have witnessed what we saw as well but the guy we were on about was about 30-40 and he looked very much part of the EDL.

Hopefully someone could identify him and have words with him. Sometimes emotions run high but its no excuse for his behaviour, If the man knows he did wrong out of high passions then perhaps he could identify himself and appologise for his behaviour if he was EDL.

Everybody can make mistakes but it takes a real man to own up to them and he was certainly a man by image if not by nature.
How on earth do you look 'EDL'?

Anyone can buy a shirt from eBay, and turn up at their first protest and start s**t. That doesn't mean they're EDL.

EDL members are the peaceful protesters, which is 98% of the crowd in most cases.

Thugs are the ones who start trouble, and are not EDL. Just because they're sporting the top, doesn't mean they have the mentality of the organisation.
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johngalt
Apr 3 2010, 08:57 PM
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I was in Dudley TODAY Anxiety, where you? And if so where?
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saunders
Apr 3 2010, 09:02 PM
I was in Dudley TODAY Anxiety, where you? And if so where?
I was agreeing with you!
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