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Right wing and police thoughts ?
Topic Started: Feb 22 2010, 12:59 PM (360 Views)
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Here is an interesting piece from the police revealing their thoughts about the real terror within the UK, this is made even more interesting when you realsie that Shaun Sawyer was actually addressing a group of muslims.

Scotland Yard's counter-terrorism command fears that right-wing extremists will stage a deadly terrorist attack in Britain to try to stoke racial tensions.

Senior officers say it will be a "spectacular" that is designed to kill. The counter-terrorism unit has redeployed officers to increase its monitoring of the extreme right's potential to stage attacks.

Commander Shaun Sawyer told a meeting of British Muslims concerned about the danger to their communities that police were responding to the growing threat.

Sawyer said of the far right: "I fear that they will have a spectacular... they will carry out an attack that will lead to a loss of life or injury to a community somewhere. They're not choosy about which community."

He said the aim would be to cause a "breakdown in community cohesion".

Sawyer revealed that the Met commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, had asked the counter-terrorism command, SO15, to examine what the economic downturn would mean for far-right violence. The assessment concluded that the recession would increase the possibility of it.

Sawyer told the meeting last Wednesday that more of his officers needed to be deployed to try to thwart imaginary neo-Nazi-inspired violence.

He said the terrorist threat posed by al-Qaida remained the unit's priority, but said of its far-right section: "It is a small desk ... we need to grow that unit."
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Sounds like they're trying to fabricate a threat to win votes for their political masters. There is an election coming up, don't ya know! :)

Funny how no events have ever been set up to address the fears of non-Muslims regarding Islamic terrorism!
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Its just a senior officer trying to get more funds for one of his pet projects.No doubt he is from the far left and wants to wage a personal war on the far right.Make up an imaginary threat and the money will come pouring in.If the far right were going to stage a spectacular they would have done it by now.All we have had in the last forty years has been one nutter in the form of David Copeland and a few pipe bombs,hardly a spectacular.
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Quote:"He said the aim would be to cause a "breakdown in community cohesion".

Why bother? There isn't any 'communtiy cohesion' in moslim suburbs anyway? Silly old fool!

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The real threat is islam,i know it,you know it,he knows it and our leaders know it but only you and i will acknowlage it.Because of this we are classed as racist,nazis or even would be terrorists when we are neither.
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There also is a threat from Right wing groups they dont just make things up .
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Feb 22 2010, 01:33 PM
There also is a threat from Right wing groups they dont just make things up .
Your are right but this cannot be classed in the same league as the islamic threat.There have been almost 15,000 deadly terrorist attacks carried out in the name of islam since 9-11 comparred to "0" form the far right.Now im not far right and im not trying to big them up just stating a fact.Also the government call anyone who has any view that is negative in any way to islam or immigration far right.I would even go as far to say many so called far right are not even that.
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Feb 22 2010, 01:33 PM
There also is a threat from Right wing groups they dont just make things up .
Charlie - that's the excuse that is being used against Tommy! Are you saying that the group 'you' belong to is a threat!?
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Feb 22 2010, 01:33 PM
There also is a threat from Right wing groups they dont just make things up .
Soory to kill the illusion charlie but they do make thnigs up mate.People have been given life sentances because they do make things up ask the birmingham 6,bridgewater 4,the guilford 4 and many others.They do make stuff up and tell down right lies.A recent big lie was the WMD that didnt exist and the biggest lie of them all=ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE.
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Feb 22 2010, 01:37 PM
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Feb 22 2010, 01:33 PM
There also is a threat from Right wing groups they dont just make things up .
Your are right but this cannot be classed in the smae league as the islamic threat.There have been almost 15,000 deadly terrorist attacks carried out in the name of islam since 9-11 comparred to "0" form the far right.Now im not far right and im not trying to big them up just stating a fact.
no of course its not in the same league has the Islamic threat but the truth is there been more terror attacks by people associated with right wing fraction then Islamic ones in this country .

The reason being there been less attacks is down to good security work by police and Mi5 tackling the Islamic threat
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I remeber about 6 months ago it was reported a far right group in this country had been caught with semtex,c4,machine gun,hand grenades,rocket launchers and hand guns.This was just lies,bull s**t pure fantasy.Im not far right and neither are you charlie but the powers that be,the uaf and the media say we are.
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What 'right wing factions' are you talking about Charlie?
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Feb 22 2010, 01:41 PM
charlie
Feb 22 2010, 01:33 PM
There also is a threat from Right wing groups they dont just make things up .
Charlie - that's the excuse that is being used against Tommy! Are you saying that the group 'you' belong to is a threat!?
No im not saying that but we cant close our eyes there right wing left wing Islamic threats out there
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Feb 22 2010, 01:47 PM
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Feb 22 2010, 01:37 PM

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no of course its not in the same league has the Islamic threat but the truth is there been more terror attacks by people associated with right wing fraction then Islamic ones in this country .

The reason being there been less attacks is down to good security work by police and Mi5 tackling the Islamic threat
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Feb 22 2010, 01:50 PM
What 'right wing factions' are you talking about Charlie?
First of all let me point out I dont associate this group or tommy with any terrorist groups .

The right wing groups im talking about are bloodand honour
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Feb 22 2010, 01:57 PM
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Feb 22 2010, 01:50 PM
What 'right wing factions' are you talking about Charlie?
First of all let me point out I dont associate this group or tommy with any terrorist groups .

The right wing groups im talking about are bloodand honour
We know that charlie,dont worry not witch hunt coming your way ;)
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The right wing groups im talking about are bloodand honour


How many terrorist attacks have they carried out mate?

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Feb 22 2010, 01:49 PM
I remeber about 6 months ago it was reported a far right group in this country had been caught with semtex,c4,machine gun,hand grenades,rocket launchers and hand guns.This was just lies,bull s**t pure fantasy.Im not far right and neither are you charlie but the powers that be,the uaf and the media say we are.
That was one of the things im talking about why was it bull?
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Feb 22 2010, 01:49 PM
I remeber about 6 months ago it was reported a far right group in this country had been caught with semtex,c4,machine gun,hand grenades,rocket launchers and hand guns.This was just lies,bull s**t pure fantasy.Im not far right and neither are you charlie but the powers that be,the uaf and the media say we are.
That was one of the things im talking about why was it bull?
Simply was not true.Down right lie.
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???? this is not the rocket launcher,semtex,machine gun,grenade,c4 case though, this is true and i class him and his ilk as scum who have no place in a civilised society,perverts BUT its hardly in the same ball park as the threat caused by islam.Mind you very simular as in the liking for young children.
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Sadly I think our police are confused, the higher rankers are generally political animals, the std officer can be totally genuine and superb. But they all have to jump to the tune of their masters, so I always cast doubt on any ranking officer's statement.

Attend a meeting with rankers and pose questions, they will run you down flat. There is an argument for an elected Chief Constable, which means candidates will publish how they intend to police the area. Whereas at the moment the CC is a career move, with an element of "funny handshakes"/church/play the race card etc.

Edited by Kaizer, Feb 22 2010, 02:16 PM.
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There is no right-wing terrorist threat. If there was there would have been small scale attacks already. The only people who want to kill fellow Brits are muslim extremists. Our government , it looks to me anyway , are in league with the real terrorists and are using their position to crack down on dissent to Labour rule.

Why else would our police arrest the EDL leadership. It is an illegal arrest as no crime has been committed. You cannot arrest anyone on the suspicion that they may commit a crime. If that was the case the vast majority of us would be in prison now. The police have acted illegally and should be brought to book.
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Feb 22 2010, 01:33 PM
There also is a threat from Right wing groups they dont just make things up .
Interesting thought !!! Maybe you could enlighten us as to this threat from the right wing. Or maybe you are batting for the wrong side. As hard as i try i cant think of any problems the right wing cause unless of course you consider standing up for our country as a problem ??
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no of course its not in the same league has the Islamic threat but the truth is there been more terror attacks by people associated with right wing fraction then Islamic ones in this country


Apart from David Copeland I can't say I can really recall any of them.Somehow I can't see Nick Griffin becoming a suicide bomber.
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just sound like more tosh coming from the good ol' Bill this 'community cohesion' he calls it, could be anything from a few ol dears meeting up for tea to a huge gang of lads turning up for a fight

Hahaha after what i just read about the Lads in seniority i have lost all little respect i have for these so called police

They done the miners in, in 88 and now they target everyone in 10 with a thought what isnt the same
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no of course its not in the same league has the Islamic threat but the truth is there been more terror attacks by people associated with right wing fraction then Islamic ones in this country


Apart from David Copeland I can't say I can really recall any of them.Somehow I can't see Nick Griffin becoming a suicide bomber.
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oh yeath they got that right it is the right wing who have bombed and killed its the right wing preaching hate and recruting in the mosques makes you think what planets these muppets live on
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Apart from David Copeland I can't say I can really recall any of them.Somehow I can't see Nick Griffin becoming a suicide bomber.
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It's not really in the same league as the Islamist threat though, is it Charlie? He had some chemicals that the judge accepted were being kept 'in case' civil war ever broke out.

We all know that there are some nutters out there, right 'and' left wing, but none of them want to destroy us in the way that the Islamists do. Saying there are more right wing threats than Islamic threats is the sort of statistical propaganda only a politician would be proud of! It's like saying there have been more right wing bombs than there have atomic bombs! It's not the quantity Charlie, it's the 'quality'!
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Im lost for words charlie i cannot believe you are comparing the two.Sure there are some far right nut cases out there but c'mon..........Islam is in a league of its own.Not all muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are muslims.
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Charlie at it again I see.
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Obviously the type of person that totally agrees with labours destruction of this country by stealth, a typical self loathing muslim pc apologist.
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There is a left wing group that is far more extremist than any right wing group ....

the animal liberation front

now .. i do not condone violence by right wing groups, blood and honour are a bunch of nubs, but their abilities in comparision to the ALF .. they are amaters in comparison without a f**king clue ........

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Charlie, there might be some dodgy right wing groups with mad ideas and agendas. End of the day, they dont pose no threat to this country or our way of life and existence. Extreme Islam does.

We were treated like total dog s**t. Everyone on good behaviour, while the pikey f**ks on the street doing as they pleased. Me and a mate walked through the clueless f**kers only to get treated like a f**king piss of s**t by the OB. Got to the pub finally with some leeds and jocks. Again all the f**kers doing as they pleased like scum.

If they had of experienced any this, it would have been in all the papers bout discrimination and s**t. To top it all Tommy was f**ked over big time. f**king disgusting. We hadn't done f**k all wrong. This is just gonna make us stronger. They'scared of us now Give us another 18 months and well be a f**king nightmare to them.

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Feb 22 2010, 12:59 PM
Here is an interesting piece from the police revealing their thoughts about the real terror within the UK, this is made even more interesting when you realsie that Shaun Sawyer was actually addressing a group of muslims.

Scotland Yard's counter-terrorism command fears that right-wing extremists will stage a deadly terrorist attack in Britain to try to stoke racial tensions.

Senior officers say it will be a "spectacular" that is designed to kill. The counter-terrorism unit has redeployed officers to increase its monitoring of the extreme right's potential to stage attacks.

Commander Shaun Sawyer told a meeting of British Muslims concerned about the danger to their communities that police were responding to the growing threat.

Sawyer said of the far right: "I fear that they will have a spectacular... they will carry out an attack that will lead to a loss of life or injury to a community somewhere. They're not choosy about which community."

He said the aim would be to cause a "breakdown in community cohesion".

Sawyer revealed that the Met commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, had asked the counter-terrorism command, SO15, to examine what the economic downturn would mean for far-right violence. The assessment concluded that the recession would increase the possibility of it.

Sawyer told the meeting last Wednesday that more of his officers needed to be deployed to try to thwart imaginary neo-Nazi-inspired violence.

He said the terrorist threat posed by al-Qaida remained the unit's priority, but said of its far-right section: "It is a small desk ... we need to grow that unit."
i realy cant take all their lies anymore.
A lie (also called prevarication, falsehood) is a type of deception in the form of an untruthful statement, especially with the intention to deceive others, often with the further intention to maintain a secret or reputation, protect someone's feelings or to avoid a punishment or repercussion for one's actions. To lie is to state something that one knows to be false or that one does not honestly believe to be true with the intention that a person will take it for the truth. A liar is a person who is lying, who has previously lied, or who tends by nature to lie repeatedly - even when not necessary.

yep lie is the right word for all froms of this goverment. why do we even bother teaching are kids to tell the truth.
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I can see where you are coming from,Charlie,but most of these links point towards disturbed loners rather than a terrorist cell that has the intent to commit mass murder.Sure they are dangerous but not in the same way as the 7/7 bombers were as they simply don't have the right contacts or organisational skills.
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Charlie, where are the links to these right wing terror attacks then?
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There is a very real threat from right wing groups. Since the asian british planted bombs murdering English people on the streete of London (not that the brit press mentioned the word English amongst the victims,in fact,according to the brit press not even 1 English person got injured),there have been 9 right wingers caught with bombs and bomb making equipmant. The press also ran a story last year about 'white people' bringing in hand grenades and machine guns into England in order to attack the asian british. There are many serbs and croats over here now. I worked with serbs and croats and back home they have garages and sheds full of weapons including hand grenades,rocket launches and mortars etc. left over from the war with the muslims. Organisations like Organizationalista Polska are already here. There were also the pictures at the week end in the papers of the B.F.F. posing with machine guns. It is going to happen.
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There is a very real threat from right wing groups. Since the asian british planted bombs murdering English people on the streete of London (not that the brit press mentioned the word English amongst the victims,in fact,according to the brit press not even 1 English person got injured),there have been 9 right wingers caught with bombs and bomb making equipmant. The press also ran a story last year about 'white people' bringing in hand grenades and machine guns into England in order to attack the asian british. There are many serbs and croats over here now. I worked with serbs and croats and back home they have garages and sheds full of weapons including hand grenades,rocket launches and mortars etc. left over from the war with the muslims. Organisations like Organizationalista Polska are already here. There were also the pictures at the week end in the papers of the B.F.F. posing with machine guns. It is going to happen.
Sorry to piss on your strawberry patch but most things to do with far right in the paper is bull s**t bff with machine guns pmsl,its like saying the edl have nuclear bombs.....
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The far right may have some nutters, but they don't kill hundreds of innocent people.
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The far right may have some nutters, but they don't kill hundreds of innocent people.
exactly.
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There is a very real threat from right wing groups. Since the asian british planted bombs murdering English people on the streete of London (not that the brit press mentioned the word English amongst the victims,in fact,according to the brit press not even 1 English person got injured),there have been 9 right wingers caught with bombs and bomb making equipmant. The press also ran a story last year about 'white people' bringing in hand grenades and machine guns into England in order to attack the asian british. There are many serbs and croats over here now. I worked with serbs and croats and back home they have garages and sheds full of weapons including hand grenades,rocket launches and mortars etc. left over from the war with the muslims. Organisations like Organizationalista Polska are already here. There were also the pictures at the week end in the papers of the B.F.F. posing with machine guns. It is going to happen.
Another mug who believes the media, the right wing have never had an active violent side in the true sense, that is the reason why this country is so f**ked up. If we did have an active right wing we wouldnt be having this debate now.
I dont give a s**t how many sheds or garages are full of stuff in Poland, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, India or for that matter any where else my issues are here in the UK. The British people need to get some balls en-mass and rise up against these f**king traitors running the country and show them that we have had enough of their multicultural s**t. The police just like the scum bag politicians will do anything and i mean anything not to up set the muslims. Maybe you could enlighten us to how many as you put it Asian British right wingers there are ? White people bringing in grenades and machine guns Oh yeah that makes them right wing !!!. Our day will come and then you can bleat on about a violent right wing. Wooton Basset is a classic example of how it will begin, the government didn`t ban Chowdrys march because they thought it was in poor taste, they banned it because of the threat of the masses turning up there to defend the honour of the British soldiers who have lost their lives. So finally in a country with 70 million people there have been according to you 9 right wingers caught with bomb making equipment not exactly a f**king army is it. while how many immigrants have been caught ?
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