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Serious suggestion for the EDL - let's do it?
Topic Started: Feb 20 2010, 11:58 PM (466 Views)
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There's never been and probably never will be a better time to contest an election than this next one coming up. And so my suggestion is that the EDL put a candidate forward for Dudley.

Politicians have never been more unpopular than they are right now. Because of the recession and especially because of the expenses rip-off, most MPs are going to lose their seats.

We need to take advantage of this, and as I say the next election is the best chance that any independent candidate will ever get.

My proposal is that the EDL put a candidate forward in Dudley under the NO MOSQUE IN DUDLEY banner or something like that. Campaigning on that single issue would guarantee thousands of votes, thousands!

As I see it, this plan can't fail. It costs £500 to put up a candidate, and that's totally refunded if you get 5% of the vote. Also, you get given a hall to use, and you get names and addresses of the electorate and stuff. If this goes ahead I can help with admin as I know a bit about this stuff.

We may not win the election in Dudley, but imagine the media coverage? Also, it would be fun watching the establishment bricking themselves and trying dirty tricks to stop us.

Then again, we may win, and to be honest I wouldn't rule that out because as I say this next election is there for taking. People don't want to vote for rip off Lab or Con this next election that's for sure. So let's give them what they want?
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It's a nice idea Flashbuck, but we're not and never will be political! :)
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Feb 21 2010, 12:00 AM
It's a nice idea Flashbuck, but we're not and never will be political! :)
I agree we're not political as such... but we can exploit the political process and get our message heard. We don't have ambitions to rule or anything like that, but we do want to get support for everything we stand for and the only way to do that is by staying in the news. Putting a candidate forward in Dudley will get us thousands of votes. There are so many there that don't want that mosque and as I say we should play the Establishment at their own game. They have the power, they are banning us and stopping us from marching weakening us on all sides harassing our leaders and all that. We have to shift tactics and outwit them. Spring this on them. They don't like it up 'em.
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they certainly don't corporal jones :D
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If we won that election in Dudley and got an MP - which is more than the BNP have ever achieved - that means everyone will start taking serious notice. The fightback to save our country and it's values would really begin on that day when the results are announced and when the people of Dudley kick out Lab and Con and vote EDL.
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Feb 21 2010, 12:10 AM
If we won that election in Dudley and got an MP - which is more than the BNP have ever achieved - that means everyone will start taking serious notice. The fightback to save our country and it's values would really begin on that day when the results are announced and when the people of Dudley kick out Lab and Con and vote EDL.
If we did stand someone for election, we'd become political. That would have serious implications on what we can and can't do as an organisation. Like I say, it's a nice idea, but it won't happen. That's not to stop anyone in Dudley from running as an independent though, under a 'No to the Mosque' banner! :)
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IF the choice of candidates for Dudley were Conservatives,Labour and BNP, I know who I would vote for. BNP everytime. :)
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he might have a good chance of winning,i stood as a paper candidate in our local elections about eight years ago and i only lost by about 15 votes and i never even left my house, it just goes to show what people will do when they are pissed off by a particular party
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Feb 21 2010, 12:38 AM
IF the choice of candidates for Dudley were Conservatives,Labour and BNP, I know who I would vote for. BNP everytime. :)

Hi Templar - you're close to Dudley. What's the feeling there? If an independent candidate stood in Dudley against that mosque do you think he or she would get many votes? Do you think the EDL could do well?
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Well what have that previous shower of s**t done for us. What are they all saying about politics? Nice work if you can get it. This why we have jundie baroness this and Lord jundie that. Jundie MP's, jundie councillors, jundie mayors. Corrupt polititions for the last 40 years. Claiming for duck islands/clock tower's,porno and this is just the tip of the iceberg. They should have gone back on expences over the last 25 years. Euro MP'S WATCH YOUR THEIVING BACKS.

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I would like to see a European demo. It is becoming apparent now that the concerns of the EDL are the same concerns as a number of other EU members.

My thoughts are that this isnt something that should have a months notice but needs a good six months planning and the location needs to be really thought about. I would want this to be on global news not Scottish TV or Midlands Today.

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An EDL candidate in just one constituency in England would be a good publicity stunt at the very least which would attract national attention to the organisation and perhaps help it to grow. It could perhaps campaign on the ticket of being for freedom of association and freedom of speech and against those who want to abolish such traditional English freedoms.
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Aeneas Lavinium
Feb 21 2010, 01:03 AM
An EDL candidate in just one constituency in England would be a good publicity stunt at the very least which would attract national attention to the organisation and perhaps help it to grow. It could perhaps campaign on the ticket of being for freedom of association and freedom of speech and against those who want to abolish such traditional English freedoms.
I agree, something needs to be done even if its just for publicity !
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Anyway let's get planning for London. I did not make Scotland, But I will have 3 seats vacant for the trip to London from Dudley/W'ton area. Or on the way.

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Feb 21 2010, 01:03 AM
An EDL candidate in just one constituency in England would be a good publicity stunt at the very least which would attract national attention to the organisation and perhaps help it to grow. It could perhaps campaign on the ticket of being for freedom of association and freedom of speech and against those who want to abolish such traditional English freedoms.
Rather than an EDL candidate, better a candidate who happens to support the EDL. But it could still get messy, so better to avoid any connection whatsoever - just run as an independent.
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If the EDL want to put up the deposit and help with the publicity I would stand for Dudley.
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By its existence, EDL is already political. It has political goals. The question is the way those political goals are realised (demonstrations and/or participation in the parliamentary process). Would EDL have more or less influence with representation at Westminster? The next parliament will have UKIP MPs and an EDL MP would make a good ally for them.
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Feb 21 2010, 01:20 AM
By its existence, EDL is already political. It has political goals. The question is the way those political goals are realised (demonstrations and/or participation in the parliamentary process). Would EDL have more or less influence with representation at Westminster? The next parliament will have UKIP MPs and an EDL MP would make a good ally for them.
It's been discussed to death before AL. It's not going to happen mate. Like I say, there's nothing to stop anyone going and forming their own party or running as independents though.
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Feb 21 2010, 12:31 AM
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Feb 21 2010, 12:10 AM
If we won that election in Dudley and got an MP - which is more than the BNP have ever achieved - that means everyone will start taking serious notice. The fightback to save our country and it's values would really begin on that day when the results are announced and when the people of Dudley kick out Lab and Con and vote EDL.
If we did stand someone for election, we'd become political. That would have serious implications on what we can and can't do as an organisation. Like I say, it's a nice idea, but it won't happen. That's not to stop anyone in Dudley from running as an independent though, under a 'No to the Mosque' banner! :)
being political dosent have no boundries, the nazis were \a political party, its the only way to get heard
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Feb 21 2010, 01:23 AM
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Feb 21 2010, 12:31 AM
If we did stand someone for election, we'd become political. That would have serious implications on what we can and can't do as an organisation. Like I say, it's a nice idea, but it won't happen. That's not to stop anyone in Dudley from running as an independent though, under a 'No to the Mosque' banner! :)
being political dosent have no boundries, the nazis were \a political party, its the only way to get heard
This ain't Germany and we ain't Nazis!

If anyone here wants to get heard - as in party politically heard - then there's loads of existing parties to join - or they can form their own. Like I say, this has been discussed to death before.
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It would of course be a shame to dilute the impact of other parties who are concerned about islamisation and the rise of sharia - especially just for a publicity stunt. Just wanted the put the idea into the ring for the sake of brainstorming. EDL is a well run operation and there are not very many things that are beyond its capabilities.
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I sent my C.V. to MOSSAD. have not had a reply yet. I think they might think I am to dangerous. It was the same withCIA/FBI & MI5 ask them.

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" . . . SUPPORT THE BNP FOR DUDLEY & SURROUNDING AREAS UNTIL THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE EDL CANDIDATE. THATS WHAT I SAY. OTHERS MAY DISSAGREE. . ."

This would make more sense to me. The BNP would make a trashy job of running the country if they ever got elected and would just burn out in a few months, but it would be one hell of a kick in the pants for the other parties. It would make them think what the people actually want and what they're not providing. Then when the election after that comes (in, say a year), the bigger parties might have some more favourable policies.

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I sent my C.V. to MOSSAD. have not had a reply yet. I think they might think I am to dangerous. It was the same withCIA/FBI & MI5 ask them.

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MOSSAD should run a candidate in Dudley! :D
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Feb 21 2010, 01:22 AM
It's been discussed to death before AL. It's not going to happen mate. Like I say, there's nothing to stop anyone going and forming their own party or running as independents though.
I haven't seen this matter discussed fully before can you show me where? Thanks.

And I'd just like to repeat for the sake of it... the forthcoming election will be the best and easiest chance anyone will ever have of gaining a very large number of votes. The EDL should seize the chance because another like this won't come along again.
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Feb 21 2010, 07:48 AM
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Feb 21 2010, 01:22 AM
It's been discussed to death before AL. It's not going to happen mate. Like I say, there's nothing to stop anyone going and forming their own party or running as independents though.
I haven't seen this matter discussed fully before can you show me where? Thanks.

And I'd just like to repeat for the sake of it... the forthcoming election will be the best and easiest chance anyone will ever have of gaining a very large number of votes. The EDL should seize the chance because another like this won't come along again.
Here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/2574740/ and
here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/2826783/
for starters.

But it usually comes up in the middle of other threads and, as searching for 'party' throws up lots of hits, you'll have to track them down yourself. :)

It is a FAQ though.
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I think Its a great idea. It shows we are serious and if we want something done right then we are going to have to do it ourselves.
But then we have to have other policies like health and education and all that mince. IF, IF, IF It ever happened. LOL
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Someone should stand as an independant but also let people know they support the EDL.
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wheres all the support from the BNP coming from? the EDL hasstated it is not affilated with them and the BNPO have said they want tnothing to do with the EDL.

I think there are a few BNP plants in here who have been waiting for something liek this to happen so that they can explouit it and gain more support.

be very careful.
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Feb 21 2010, 01:01 AM
I would say support the poor old BNP. They have no records of corruption that I know of. They have no bone to pick with the EDL and as I can see, would be nothing but being supportive of our cause. If the EDL were to become political, it would have my resounding support and I would wholeheartedly like to become involved to extent of standing for a seat.
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Disgraced councillor should go say voters

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CONSTITUENTS of benefit cheat councillor Richard Mulhall have called for him to be kicked off Calderdale Council.

Speaking shortly after the 38-year-old was convicted of four counts of benefit fraud voters in the Illingworth and Mixenden ward he represents were quick to condemn the far right activist.



not an mp, but for a BNP councillor who stood on a platform that included tougher sentences on benefit cheats to get caught doing this is scandalous.
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Feb 21 2010, 01:01 AM
I would say support the poor old BNP. They have no records of corruption that I know of. They have no bone to pick with the EDL and as I can see, would be nothing but being supportive of our cause. If the EDL were to become political, it would have my resounding support and I would wholeheartedly like to become involved to extent of standing for a seat.
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Disgraced councillor should go say voters

Home news | credit: Suzanne Rutter on: Friday, 20 October 2006
Source:Halifax Courier

CONSTITUENTS of benefit cheat councillor Richard Mulhall have called for him to be kicked off Calderdale Council.

Speaking shortly after the 38-year-old was convicted of four counts of benefit fraud voters in the Illingworth and Mixenden ward he represents were quick to condemn the far right activist.



not an mp, but for a BNP councillor who stood on a platform that included tougher sentences on benefit cheats to get caught doing this is scandalous.
Im no B.N.P supporter but there corruption on all side of the political fence and Lets not turn this into a anti B.N.P thread :)
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oh, Im not. im just highlighting to templar a cse that he might not have known about. its one thing to fiddle the books to get a new sofa for the second home, but to commit benefit fraud is just cheap and criminal.
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It takes registration fees to list a candidate.

The EDL will get far more publicity from the March 5th meet, than they ever would winning a Council seat.
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yep i agree with you knight of stgeorge
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We need as much publicity as we can get. In my opinion we should'nt go down the same path as a political party. Like someone said, find an Independant who supports us, or just put someone forward who is very articualte and comes accross well. A man of the people. Forget about winning a seat. Just use t for publicity. Absolutley bombard as much media as possible. 80% of the puiblic would happily support us if they knew what we are really about.
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The EDL should remain neutral politically in my opinion, but they should encourage working class people to vote, not for any one party but just to vote. We have lost a lot of power and most working class whites are very anti-voting as they reckon it wont do any good think that is one thing the EDL needs to do as a long term mission statement, get ordinary people voting again, after all our forefathers gave their lives so we have the right to register our vote
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Feb 21 2010, 01:37 AM
I sent my C.V. to MOSSAD. have not had a reply yet. I think they might think I am to dangerous. It was the same withCIA/FBI & MI5 ask them.

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Not that I have any links to the Mossad but I can tell you for a fact that any Israeli that knows something about british politics has very little sympathy for BNP voters. Odds are they weren't impressed with that bit of youe CV.
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In a purely selfish sort of way, the EDL needs to become a "cool" thing for youngsters to support.
What can we do to attract kids from 10 upwards?
Of course, girls can convince boys to support anything. The more girls we get on board, the more boys we will get flooding in to the EDL.

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If we did take the vote away from the BNP, would that not be detrimental in some way to us having a political part that at least echoes our sentiments?

Every vote that the BNP doesn't get means more chance of there being a Lib/Lab/Con member being an MP.
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I disagree that the EDL should be political.
This is about survival, not politics.
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I sent my C.V. to MOSSAD. have not had a reply yet. I think they might think I am to dangerous. It was the same withCIA/FBI & MI5 ask them.

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Not that I have any links to the Mossad but I can tell you for a fact that any Israeli that knows something about british politics has very little sympathy for BNP voters. Odds are they weren't impressed with that bit of youe CV.
Forgot to mention any intrest in the BNP. Not a member yet. Honest MOSSAD. :)
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I seriously think that we dont want to go down the political route as someone else already mentioned is brings serious and complicated implications to us as a organisation. However say if there was an independant canditate to stand with simalar values to the EDL, there could be quite a media tool available to use!
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I sent my C.V. to MOSSAD. have not had a reply yet. I think they might think I am to dangerous. It was the same withCIA/FBI & MI5 ask them.

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wheres all the support from the BNP coming from? the EDL hasstated it is not affilated with them and the BNPO have said they want tnothing to do with the EDL.

I think there are a few BNP plants in here who have been waiting for something liek this to happen so that they can explouit it and gain more support.

be very careful.
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