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Topic Started: Feb 20 2010, 12:59 PM (2,655 Views)
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major respect for the people that made the demo and to those who made the effort to come but were sadly turned away by the police im ashamed of my country due to this got this from bbc website scheck it out

Justice secretary and MSP for Edinburgh East and Musselburgh, Kenny MacAskill, said: "This capital has a proud record of being open to all, and racism has no place here or in modern society.

"The vast majority of people in Scotland embrace equality, diversity and the idea of a one Scotland, many cultures.

"Today is about making a stand against those who would seek to divide and saying to them that their views are not welcome, as well as showing to the world that Scotland will not tolerate such views."

Scottish Labour leader Iain Gray, who also attended the march, said: "The message from today's rally was up-beat and clear - Scotland will never stand by and allow hatred and bigotry to have its day.
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"Scotland is an open, tolerant country. There is no place for - and Scotland will give no platform to - those who would divide our communities and attack our citizens.

All i can say is i quote""This capital has a proud record of being open to all"" :'( HIPOCRACY OR WHAT?????
""Scotland is an open,tolerant country"" :'( DONT MAKE ME LAUGH

Sorry to all our brothers from England,Wales and Northen Ireland that made the trip the welcome you got disgusted me
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Feb 20 2010, 10:52 PM
Rupert ,Rupert Rupert the bear every one knows your name

Its Bell end
It's actually Rupert, Rupert the bear!
But for you Charlie (boy) that aint bad, if a tad unchristian!!!!
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Feb 21 2010, 03:47 AM
Oh well, that's the fun over, he's just gone off line. I'm a bit stumped, because I thought he was deleted, not sure how he is back again. Anyway, one thing I need to check tomorrow (later today) is how sure Zefiris is that he is definitely this Rupert heaven guy, 'cause I wouldn't want any innocent person harassed. http://www.musicteachers.co.uk/teacher/4bb36d447bbb5c10771d Mr Rupert Heaven

Address: Greater London
SE4 1LF
Home Phone: 0208 692 4294
Mobile Phone: 07968 076 819
Instruments: Clarinet, Alto Saxophone
Ability Levels: Beginners to Intermediate
Genre/Style(s): Various styles, specialising in Jazz & Blues
Qualifications: Certificate in Music, Goldsmiths University Of London
Fee (60 minutes): £24.00
Notes: Experienced jazz musician offers tuition. For background see:
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ouch!! One thing for sure is never piddle Zefris off!
Nice work eh?
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Feb 21 2010, 12:23 PM
The web page has been deleted. :D
I thought that might happen which is why I posted the details on the page. He is a silly boy because that only means that he has confirmed it is definitely him. Anyway Wupert, is that your brother Jospeh Heaven who set your website up for you? You're lucky we're not the mindless thugs you make us out to be. Because his full address is there for all to see and if I were to pay a couple of quid, I could get your full address online from the electoral role, Mr. Rupert B. Heaven. Enjoy your weekend and reflect on the fact that are you aren't quite as smart as you thought you were yesterday.
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Guess it's definitely him then :)

I've found the address which his sites registered too, not gonna put it up because it's under Joseph Heavens name who I'm guessing is his dad or brother. Don't think it's fair his relations details been made public when they've had nothing to do with Rupert and his dickishness.
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Feb 21 2010, 04:21 AM
Hey ujac, I just clicked on this ruperts FB link and mine came up!! WTF going on mate?
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Same here Dodger would that happen if the link not there anymore
A WAY OUT FOR YOU NAZI SCUM THATS INFILTRATED THE EDL
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Feb 21 2010, 02:55 PM
Same here Dodger would that happen if the link not there anymore
Was it your FB that came up or mine
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Feb 21 2010, 02:55 PM
Same here Dodger would that happen if the link not there anymore
Yes, providing you've got the cookie stored on your computer, if Facebook can't load the link that you've used then it automatically defaults to your own page.
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It loaded up Ruperts facebook page for me
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Is this called bear baiting? :D :D

Poor Woopert.
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it loads his page up on mine as well
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Feb 21 2010, 05:14 PM
it loads his page up on mine as well
Mine too, but I had to be logged in or it was just 'Page Not Found'
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This is a quote from xcrisx, thought you might be intersted to see what he thinks of you:

"I know the scottish cops well and I know how underhanded they can be, but surely you must see that sending out a call for scores of football hooligans from across britain to descend on the capital city on a saturday afternoon was only ever goign to end one way."

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why did he bother to turn up? very strange ^o)
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Feb 21 2010, 11:35 AM
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Feb 21 2010, 11:30 AM
I would add that in Scotland we have always had the right to hold a demo. No matter the view held. As long as it was peaceful. I cannot understand why or how it is possible to stifle the view of a section of the community. If this is done then we are in serious trouble
snp for you rights for mass murderes i.e lockerbie but british citizens no siree
Before I go on to something else I would like to answer your post.

What you may not get much info on down south is the fact that the same man branded as a mass murderer is most probably innocent.

When the parents of the victims say they have looked at evidence that proves his innocence then I believe we should listen. More important the true killers are out there and not in a Scottish prison.
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What you may not get much info on down south is the fact that the same man branded as a mass murderer is most probably innocent.

When the parents of the victims say they have looked at evidence that proves


He possibly was innocent.
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xcrisx's quote.

Who else is going to stand up the left? Would you rather it was 80 year old men?
Patriotism is not racism.


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Did he turn up, ujac?

He is a creep. imo.
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he say's he was there ruby and posted a few times yesterday about what happened to him but apparently he was on his own

after what he said yesterday i was beggining to think he was ok but he's just gone back to the usual s**te today :'(
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Feb 21 2010, 06:05 PM
howdin
Feb 21 2010, 11:35 AM
snp for you rights for mass murderes i.e lockerbie but british citizens no siree
Before I go on to something else I would like to answer your post.

What you may not get much info on down south is the fact that the same man branded as a mass murderer is most probably innocent.

When the parents of the victims say they have looked at evidence that proves his innocence then I believe we should listen. More important the true killers are out there and not in a Scottish prison.
Having spent quite an inordinate time researching the Lockerbie bombing, I can say that Al-Megrahi wasn't responsible and was stitched up. Also much as I dislike Kenny MacAskill after yesterday, he wasn't responsible for his release, NuLabour point blankly refused to help in refusing his release. In the end MacAskill had no choice but to release him and NuLabour knew this (Jack Straw) and they hung him out to dry. If anyone is really interested I'll post who really was responsible for Lockerbie and the letters from Straw s**tting on MacAskill.
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I was the same, ujac I was begining to feel a bit sorry for him until he went

mental at something I posted and the mods had to delete most of it cos it

was so disgusting.
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cant work the guy out ruby maybe clockwork has met him and can give us some sort of clue as to what the guy is about
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Here what the people over at Lenin's tomb have to say about Edinburgh: http://leninology.blogspot.com/2010/02/edl-humiliated-in-edinburgh.html

In the comments they seem to be turning on each other! Splitters!! ;) :D
Edited by Aeneas Lavinium, Feb 21 2010, 07:39 PM.
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Maybe so, ujac, though I think the Scottish lads are feeling a bit low atm.


This person (below) seems to have a very similar style of posting, I think....interesting.


I sympathise with your aims, as you know from previous posts. I was in town yesterday, but I decided to not join the SDL. Im sorry to have to say this, but im glad I didnt. What I have to say is going to be unpopular... but i hope you will respect hearing the view of an SDL sympathiser who has been put off by recent events, and not say "he's an infiltrator" and delete my post/ban me, but hear what I have to say, even if you dont like it.

I wandered round town, too see what was happening. As you know, the whole town was filled with cops, putting EDL/SDL in kettles, or keeping them in pubs, or bussing them away. EDL/SDL were scattered, kettled, and didn't even manage to have a static assembly. Noone heard the important messages that you wanted to communicate, about islamic extremism. I have complained about the lack of a strategy in the EDL before, I asked what the strategy was, and didnt get an answer. I think my concerns have rung true. Some people on the Stoke demo smashed up an asian area, attacked police and their vehicles, so the gloves are off now - the police wont let you have any more slack. The state is going to give you a full measure of its repression, as shown by how it arrested EDL leaders, and raided their homes yesterday.

I agree with xcrisx, that you need to not organise with football hooligans. Also there are still lots of fascists and racists in your organisation. You need to kick these guys out - they are f**king things up for you. These fascists are as bad as the reds. They give ammunition to your critics, who say that you are just drunken racist hooligans and fascists. I respect your passion for keeping this country free of islamic extremism, but what you are doing is not the way to achieve it. I for one am going to join an organisation that does do successful demonstrations and lobbying against sharia law - http://www.onelawforall.org.uk/ - I urge anyone else passionate about stopping sharia law to join this campaign, I think it has more hope of working.
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You are doing a sterling job there, Aeneas. Well done. :)

What does your name mean, Aeneas? :unsure:
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yep same as ruby
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Feb 21 2010, 07:40 PM
You are doing a sterling job there, Aeneas. Well done. :)

What does your name mean, Aeneas? :unsure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeneas
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What guy is everyone talking about? I cant work it out
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tzipi xcrisx
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A Trojan.
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Does anyone else have problems doing quotes?

They just don't show up, also probs if I press the edit button the whole post I want to edit is erased.
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Feb 20 2010, 07:46 PM
i got put on a bus at around 3 oclock. after i got turned away on the royal mile the first time, i walked about edinburgh for a while trying to see what, if anything, was going to happen. the time line of my first post isnt exact, there was a short while in between each of those events.

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Had a nice walk around Edinburgh?? Mate if ya wanted to have got to the boozer, you would have been able to mate. Me and another bloke got turned away by some c**t of a cooper. Met some other lads and got in the boozer. Aint rocket science.
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Feb 21 2010, 08:15 PM
xcrisx
Feb 20 2010, 07:46 PM
i got put on a bus at around 3 oclock. after i got turned away on the royal mile the first time, i walked about edinburgh for a while trying to see what, if anything, was going to happen. the time line of my first post isnt exact, there was a short while in between each of those events.

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Had a nice walk around Edinburgh?? Mate if ya wanted to have got to the boozer, you would have been able to mate. Me and another bloke got turned away by some c**t of a cooper. Met some other lads and got in the boozer. Aint rocket science.
This boy loves a drink :P
Good to meet you mate see in Bradford hopefully.
Patriotism is not racism.


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British Muslim? No such thing.



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Feb 21 2010, 06:47 PM
he say's he was there ruby and posted a few times yesterday about what happened to him but apparently he was on his own

after what he said yesterday i was beggining to think he was ok but he's just gone back to the usual s**te today :'(
So he says he says he was in the pub. Who did you speak too? Who where u involved with in the pub because I can't remember seeing anybody on their own. Although I was on my own but spoke with a few lads and knew a couple lads in the pub.
Patriotism is not racism.


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Scottish Defence League

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so did any one actually meet this bloke?

might just be me but why go to edinburgh see lads walking about and make no contact

some lads did'nt even get the chance to have alook round
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Feb 21 2010, 05:34 PM
why did he bother to turn up? very strange ^o)
Did he f**k.
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Trig, he was in town at the same time as his best friend and ally JDOUGLAS but JDOUGLAS.

Funnily enough neither of them met anyone else, now JDOUGLAS has f*cked off to another forum....

not before he told us he agrees with all his friend xcrisx utters , though.

Even more coincidentally, JDOUGLAS uses the same words, phrases and style as creepy xcrix.

Now how amazing is that?
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Feb 21 2010, 08:17 PM
trig
Feb 21 2010, 08:15 PM

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep
This boy loves a drink :P
Good to meet you mate see in Bradford hopefully.
I love it mate, just cant drink for s**t any more lol f**king passed out in the club last nite on me f**king birthday and done one. Then couldnt remember where me digs were so drove bout for 45 mins looking for me travel lodge lol clearly i couldnt afford the tip after mate lol

f**king good day in a weird way and met loads top geezers. Even got a pint of a jock!!!!

cheers fellas.
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Is this a cris witch hunt who are we to question if he was there or not .

Lets not lose sight that this thread is about Edinbough
A WAY OUT FOR YOU NAZI SCUM THATS INFILTRATED THE EDL
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he say's he was charlie posted a couple of times on this thread yesteday
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PS, the post number 225 above is one the last (hopefully) post of JDOUGLAS, that I have pasted from another thread.

I can't edit posts so have to post again with amendments, sorry. It's putting my posting rates up no end. lol
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I tried to PM this to somebody to start a new thread but I am just going to put it on here.

Gentlemen, I can only hope some of you read this post. I can only hope if you read this, you do not think that I am simply a mad old Scottish Granny.

I am I must admit influenced by a man called Gandhi.

He was quite simply the most famous and the cleverest person ever to rid his country of British rulers and never lifted a finger in anger.

The trouble being if you use violence you lose without even trying because others have a way to say you are not worth listening to.

He looked at the problem and said how can we make this country ours again without violence and he did constantly hold peaceful demonstrations. This of course was a long time ago, his people presented themselves line after line to be shot in cold blood, and still they came.

That though was not how he won. He saw the British Empire as a huge octopus that had taken hold of his country and he cut the tentacles peacefully one by one.

We in this country no longer own one shop where cigarettes are sold….do what I have just done, stop smoking. I smoked forty a day and sometimes more for the last 45 years, and I have stopped.

We do not own one shop where alcohol is sold spend two years not drinking unless it is your local pub. Do not buy from shops and particularly small shops.

One of the biggest tentacles that holds our country is drugs …stop them being used and you drain the lifeblood from a huge animal that feeds on our country and our people. If people live on drugs they do not see their country disappearing.

We do not own one shop where our food is sold so start this year and grow your own. Use your garden allotments any garden where others will allow you to grow. Use window boxes but grow your own or buy direct from our farmers. Form cooperative groups. Send one person in your group, buy your milk, and eggs that way and your meat straight from the farms. For everything else send white vans to any country near enough you and open just one shop in your area between you. The money saved from not smoking could do this easily in one month.

Buy your country back bit by bit. Starve the octopus that feeds on our country.

I GUARANTEE YOU IN ONE YEAR YOU WILL HAVE WON WITHOUT LIFTING A FINGER.

In two to five years depending on how dedicated, you can encourage your friends and family to be you will have bought back your own country.

I do not say do not demonstrate every person in this country should have the right to peaceful demonstrations but combined with a plan of action like the above you have a chance of making a difference. If you want to make a peaceful demonstration and make a useful political point too then send letters to every newspaper giving a personal promise that you will not use violence. Send them to every TV station and if you are still not allowed to demonstrate, you are in the right and others in the wrong. Very simple but one of the most powerful political points you can make.

Smoking
One person £10 + per day =£70 per week = £280 per month £3360 per year income to someone else.
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I was an interested 'bystander' during the incident at Jenny Ha's on the Royal Mile yesterday. A few observations, if I may;

- I looked on as the SDL were corralled into the pub and were denied their basic, guaranteed and protected human rights in that they were not allowed to carry out a peaceful protest
- I looked on as the UAF, many masked up, were allowed to run amok, doing as they pleased, shouting whatever abuse they wanted without fear of being arrested or detained.
- I looked on as the SDL were given the option of being escorted by riot cops into a prison van to go to jail or being escorted by riot cops onto public transport to be taken to an unspecified location some twenty miles away.
- I looked on as a small group of SDL/EDL were corralled into the Bank Hotel bar.
- I looked on as UAF were allowed to run amoke outside the Bank Hotel, hurling abuse and hatred as the SDL/EDL within, again without fear of being arrested or detained.
- I looked on as SDL/EDL who had been out on public transport and taken to away, and who had found their way back on train.. were again corralled and sent away.
It made me question my position and it made it obvious that the hands of the Police were tied, perhaps due to politic pressure. In effect the Police ended up doing the job of the UAF and they stopped the SDL/EDL carrying out their protest. Unreal. Anyway, I think that another demo / march in Edinburgh - SOON - would be a proper statement of intent by the SDL / EDL.

Just my opinion. Tx for listening.
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i hope the sdl have another march soon in edinburgh,it should be un annouced so the facist left wing pikeys and stinking pigs are caught off guard,,i hate edinburgh its full of left wing islamic terrorist lovers and middle class left wing ..i sadly could not make it yesterday due to work,but down to see some millwall mates in london soon so hopefully lend some support..keep up the good work guys,,and oh what about these sick lefties yesterday having a mins silence outside the mosque onthe day another scottish soldier killed in afghanistan...totally depraved these lefties
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I was an interested 'bystander' during the incident at Jenny Ha's on the Royal Mile yesterday. A few observations, if I may;

- I looked on as the SDL were corralled into the pub and were denied their basic, guaranteed and protected human rights in that they were not allowed to carry out a peaceful protest
- I looked on as the UAF, many masked up, were allowed to run amok, doing as they pleased, shouting whatever abuse they wanted without fear of being arrested or detained.
- I looked on as the SDL were given the option of being escorted by riot cops into a prison van to go to jail or being escorted by riot cops onto public transport to be taken to an unspecified location some twenty miles away.
- I looked on as a small group of SDL/EDL were corralled into the Bank Hotel bar.
- I looked on as UAF were allowed to run amoke outside the Bank Hotel, hurling abuse and hatred as the SDL/EDL within, again without fear of being arrested or detained.
- I looked on as SDL/EDL who had been out on public transport and taken to away, and who had found their way back on train.. were again corralled and sent away.
It made me question my position and it made it obvious that the hands of the Police were tied, perhaps due to politic pressure. In effect the Police ended up doing the job of the UAF and they stopped the SDL/EDL carrying out their protest. Unreal. Anyway, I think that another demo / march in Edinburgh - SOON - would be a proper statement of intent by the SDL / EDL.

Just my opinion. Tx for listening.
f**king too right mate. Aint got a clue whether it would be possible. But a massive full on demo. To show the UAF they cant beat us. I, for one would be there.
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Feb 21 2010, 08:58 PM
i hope the sdl have another march soon in edinburgh,it should be un annouced so the facist left wing pikeys and stinking pigs are caught off guard,,i hate edinburgh its full of left wing islamic terrorist lovers and middle class left wing ..i sadly could not make it yesterday due to work,but down to see some millwall mates in london soon so hopefully lend some support..keep up the good work guys,,and oh what about these sick lefties yesterday having a mins silence outside the mosque onthe day another scottish soldier killed in afghanistan...totally depraved these lefties
please tell me what you are talking about with the Minutes silence
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i hope the sdl have another march soon in edinburgh,it should be un annouced so the facist left wing pikeys and stinking pigs are caught off guard,,i hate edinburgh its full of left wing islamic terrorist lovers and middle class left wing ..i sadly could not make it yesterday due to work,but down to see some millwall mates in london soon so hopefully lend some support..keep up the good work guys,,and oh what about these sick lefties yesterday having a mins silence outside the mosque onthe day another scottish soldier killed in afghanistan...totally depraved these lefties
please tell me what you are talking about with the Minutes silence
it true scottish woman, :ermm: :unsure: ^o) :X
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