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French politicians see fast food chain move to halal burgers as discrimination against non-Muslims
Topic Started: Feb 19 2010, 09:40 PM (159 Views)
Aeneas Lavinium
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Edited by Aeneas Lavinium, Feb 19 2010, 09:47 PM.
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and they are right people don't want to eat that s**te :'(
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halal meat is associated with a belief, which happens to be islam.

I am not a moslem, They should provide a non-halal option .. but then again we will need to also consider kosher meat too .. and it goes on and on ...

I choose not to eat kebabs, for obvious reasons, but i do not propose a ban on resturants that are of cultural nature ... ie various inidan establishments. By choosing to eat an indian I have taken it to embrace the culture and accept the products may be served in such a way that conforms to a certain belief. This applies to any jewish establishments as well.. and i do not call for us to ban any of these. The fact that the likes of KFC are forcing a halal on all customers regardless of faith is wrong, especially as KFC is a very much a 'western' concept. If KFC want to provide halal in a moslem country, so be it .... but at the same token in that moslim country it should be acceptable to have a traditional english resturant providing non halal meat .... if i were to go to a moslim country and demand that the chicken in KFC was sold as non halal ...... well .. you can imagine the uproar this would cause ......

Could we start a list of name and shame of those places that selll halal only products for cutomers , so that we can get a nice clear message to the public, of what halal is, what it represents and send a clear message to the corporate fat cats that by supporting a ban on eating in establishments that promote halal only products without provideing a service for non moslims as being (in the words of the UAF) - racist ....


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Hello from France, first post here !
Really interested by your movement, I am a real patriot and highly involved in campaigns to ban religious exceptions in slaughter.
The problem is simple , the European Convention for the Protection of Animals for Slaughter states that the animal must be stunned before being killed of course each Contracting Party may authorize derogations from the provisions concerning prior stunning in the following cases: - slaughtering in accordance with religious rituals ..." .
It is not only about animal rights but it is also about your rights as a customer ,every time you eat halal or kosher you are paying a religious tax which will help them build more mosque in the end !
As they don't use all the parts of the animal, a significant proportion of it goes back in the traditional market without special notice. Without knowing it you are paying a religious tax even when you would think you were buying "normal food " .

This is why we want:
• the animal to be stunned for Halal and Kosher slaughter
• the origin and the method of slaughter to be highly visible on the product
• selling halal or kosher food as normal to be forbidden by law

Just to comment on the last point, if these type of food weren't throw back in the traditional market, their price would mechanically rise .

No Halal, no Kosher in Europe !

For UK join CARES UK (Campaign Against Religious Exemptions in Slaughter in the UK)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11046310427&ref=ts

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Corey_Delaney
Feb 20 2010, 08:51 AM
Hello from France, first post here !
Really interested by your movement, I am a real patriot and highly involved in campaigns to ban religious exceptions in slaughter.
The problem is simple , the European Convention for the Protection of Animals for Slaughter states that the animal must be stunned before being killed of course each Contracting Party may authorize derogations from the provisions concerning prior stunning in the following cases: - slaughtering in accordance with religious rituals ..." .
It is not only about animal rights but it is also about your rights as a customer ,every time you eat halal or kosher you are paying a religious tax which will help them build more mosque in the end !
As they don't use all the parts of the animal, a significant proportion of it goes back in the traditional market without special notice. Without knowing it you are paying a religious tax even when you would think you were buying "normal food " .

This is why we want:
• the animal to be stunned for Halal and Kosher slaughter
• the origin and the method of slaughter to be highly visible on the product
• selling halal or kosher food as normal to be forbidden by law

Just to comment on the last point, if these type of food weren't throw back in the traditional market, their price would mechanically rise .

No Halal, no Kosher in Europe !

For UK join CARES UK (Campaign Against Religious Exemptions in Slaughter in the UK)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11046310427&ref=ts

Peace !
Well said Corey! It is good to see people who care about animal rights standing up against barbarism that is justified on religious grounds. Interesting Facebook site. Are there any similar sites in French, it would be good to integrate people in France who are concerned about this issue into the French component of the global counter jihad movement. Feel free to send me a PM if you want to talk.
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Discussion of this issue on France 24: http://www.france24.com/en/20100219-halal-food-marketing-operation-quick-fast-food-french-politics Radu Stoenescu does a great job. People in France are uniting against halal slaughter. People who are interested in this issue will start doing their own research about Islam and they will discover more things that they do not like.
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that religion needs to come to terms with the fact its the 21st century not the 6th
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Corey_Delaney
Feb 20 2010, 08:51 AM
Hello from France, first post here !
Really interested by your movement, I am a real patriot and highly involved in campaigns to ban religious exceptions in slaughter.
The problem is simple , the European Convention for the Protection of Animals for Slaughter states that the animal must be stunned before being killed of course each Contracting Party may authorize derogations from the provisions concerning prior stunning in the following cases: - slaughtering in accordance with religious rituals ..." .
It is not only about animal rights but it is also about your rights as a customer ,every time you eat halal or kosher you are paying a religious tax which will help them build more mosque in the end !
As they don't use all the parts of the animal, a significant proportion of it goes back in the traditional market without special notice. Without knowing it you are paying a religious tax even when you would think you were buying "normal food " .

This is why we want:
• the animal to be stunned for Halal and Kosher slaughter
• the origin and the method of slaughter to be highly visible on the product
• selling halal or kosher food as normal to be forbidden by law

Just to comment on the last point, if these type of food weren't throw back in the traditional market, their price would mechanically rise .

No Halal, no Kosher in Europe !

For UK join CARES UK (Campaign Against Religious Exemptions in Slaughter in the UK)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11046310427&ref=ts

Peace !
And Hello to you mate. I actually spent some time in the legion E'trangerre (Fort de nogent, aubange, Marseille etc)
As an animal lover I also believe that all livestock should be killed in the most humane way. Trouble is the Torah and Koran are both ancient texts that probably applied the best ways available to kill animals humanely in days long before Christ. The world as moved on from the desert based foundations of both religions.
I would like to add the transportation of live cargo that goes on across Europe, in the most distressing circumstances for these poor animals needs to be stopped along with the battery farming of Pigs (Poland en-masse).
Cruelty is not confined to just Islam and Judism, it is in every european country and there is simply no need for it.
By the way if I I see any sign that says HALAL Or Kosher killed I will not but, just like I will not buy cheap pork from the supermarkets for reasons given above.
It is good to see that France is leading the way to standing up to islamists, you have my admiration for doing so.
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Aeneas Lavinium
Feb 20 2010, 10:41 AM
Corey_Delaney
Feb 20 2010, 08:51 AM
Hello from France, first post here !
Really interested by your movement, I am a real patriot and highly involved in campaigns to ban religious exceptions in slaughter.
The problem is simple , the European Convention for the Protection of Animals for Slaughter states that the animal must be stunned before being killed of course each Contracting Party may authorize derogations from the provisions concerning prior stunning in the following cases: - slaughtering in accordance with religious rituals ..." .
It is not only about animal rights but it is also about your rights as a customer ,every time you eat halal or kosher you are paying a religious tax which will help them build more mosque in the end !
As they don't use all the parts of the animal, a significant proportion of it goes back in the traditional market without special notice. Without knowing it you are paying a religious tax even when you would think you were buying "normal food " .

This is why we want:
• the animal to be stunned for Halal and Kosher slaughter
• the origin and the method of slaughter to be highly visible on the product
• selling halal or kosher food as normal to be forbidden by law

Just to comment on the last point, if these type of food weren't throw back in the traditional market, their price would mechanically rise .

No Halal, no Kosher in Europe !

For UK join CARES UK (Campaign Against Religious Exemptions in Slaughter in the UK)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11046310427&ref=ts

Peace !
Well said Corey! It is good to see people who care about animal rights standing up against barbarism that is justified on religious grounds. Interesting Facebook site. Are there any similar sites in French, it would be good to integrate people in France who are concerned about this issue into the French component of the global counter jihad movement. Feel free to send me a PM if you want to talk.
Thanks !
I am not only interested in animal welfare it is also and maybe more about defending values which are legacy of what our ancestors have achieved through pain and suffering...
I think we don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see that all of what happens now has been clearly engineered ...
cf :
We are dying of political correctness, not only because we are not allowed to speak but because they have implemented into our souls lies and guilts.
The fun fact is that muslims and other use our own rules to defeat us ,but if we have the simple courage to ask the law to be respected we can fight back so they can know that we are in our homeland .
The Swiss people showed us the light in a sense, people like Nigel Farage for the UK are fighting in the EU parliament, the fight is clearly not over yet!
We must in a way, a sad way, use every occasions to stand firm on our ground and values .

The sad thing is that we have the biggest muslim population in all Europe but yesterday it was the veil, not so long ago the burqua, and now the halal and ritual slaughter in general, we will stand still people are waking up !
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Feb 20 2010, 05:08 PM
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Feb 20 2010, 08:51 AM
Hello from France, first post here !
Really interested by your movement, I am a real patriot and highly involved in campaigns to ban religious exceptions in slaughter.
The problem is simple , the European Convention for the Protection of Animals for Slaughter states that the animal must be stunned before being killed of course each Contracting Party may authorize derogations from the provisions concerning prior stunning in the following cases: - slaughtering in accordance with religious rituals ..." .
It is not only about animal rights but it is also about your rights as a customer ,every time you eat halal or kosher you are paying a religious tax which will help them build more mosque in the end !
As they don't use all the parts of the animal, a significant proportion of it goes back in the traditional market without special notice. Without knowing it you are paying a religious tax even when you would think you were buying "normal food " .

This is why we want:
• the animal to be stunned for Halal and Kosher slaughter
• the origin and the method of slaughter to be highly visible on the product
• selling halal or kosher food as normal to be forbidden by law

Just to comment on the last point, if these type of food weren't throw back in the traditional market, their price would mechanically rise .

No Halal, no Kosher in Europe !

For UK join CARES UK (Campaign Against Religious Exemptions in Slaughter in the UK)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11046310427&ref=ts

Peace !
And Hello to you mate. I actually spent some time in the legion E'trangerre (Fort de nogent, aubange, Marseille etc)
As an animal lover I also believe that all livestock should be killed in the most humane way. Trouble is the Torah and Koran are both ancient texts that probably applied the best ways available to kill animals humanely in days long before Christ. The world as moved on from the desert based foundations of both religions.
I would like to add the transportation of live cargo that goes on across Europe, in the most distressing circumstances for these poor animals needs to be stopped along with the battery farming of Pigs (Poland en-masse).
Cruelty is not confined to just Islam and Judism, it is in every european country and there is simply no need for it.
By the way if I I see any sign that says HALAL Or Kosher killed I will not but, just like I will not buy cheap pork from the supermarkets for reasons given above.
It is good to see that France is leading the way to standing up to islamists, you have my admiration for doing so.
Well as a matter of fact in France for some animals we can have 50% of them being killed in a ritual slaughter ...
Here is a text concerning that unknown fact, translation by Google : http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.ripostelaique.com/Nous-mangeons-tous-hallal-ou.html&sl=fr&tl=en
I must point out that if you have the money to buy good meat :
•you still won't be sure how it was killed
•the majority of the people are struggling to sustain their sole existence, so they will have to eat it anyway :'(

So again we won't pay for any cult !

NB: I forgot the link to the article about how all this has been engineered : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/janetdaley/7231568/Immigration-a-plan-to-alter-the-nations-soul.html

Other thing most frequent argument being made is that Catholics can eat Kosher and Halal so there is no harm ...
Well I will prove them wrong doing active research on the subject !
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Hi Corey-Delaney, welcome.

I remember eading that muslims don't eat the rear end of animals and that these are sold

routinely onto the meat market.
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they don't need to eat the rear end of an animal they are already a bunch of arseholes
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@ Ruby yes that's the case, so in the end we are paying for them... The parts they don't eat should be given away (not sold) to the homeless people ... Once we do that halal and kosher food's price will rise up to 30% ,don't have to pay for them ;)
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ujac, Pmsl

You can't blame them for not eating the rear end after what they get up to with them can you?

I bet the poor cows wouldn't pass a virginity test !

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