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EDL going in dangerous direction. Do we want a race riot in Bradford?
Topic Started: Feb 19 2010, 01:28 AM (3,393 Views)
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trust in the organisers, they've got us where we are now. dont like it, f**k off. simple. i'm going to bradford to peacefully protest like at every other demo, if that is your intentention you and can hold your head high and say "i defended England today"

and if you want to kick off well your just a idiot, and true EDLers dont want to be tarrred with the same brush as you.

bradford is a hotbed for extremism, radicals, asian gangs, and hostile muslims. if thats not a good enogh reason to go whats it gonna take? grow a pair!
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Feb 20 2010, 02:41 AM
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Feb 20 2010, 02:08 AM
I ain't f**king phased by a couple of comments what I am pissed of about is that once again its made out it was all the fault of the stoke people one word to that: bollocks

if you werent there how do you know whats gone on???


e.d.l not out for myself d.l

i was there in Stoke Mate!!
VaP's comment wasn't aimed at you Danny - just those who are commenting on Stoke and weren't there.
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Feb 20 2010, 07:18 AM
To the ones who say going to Bradford is a mistake. The muslims are on facebook saying they'll riot whether the march goes ahead or not. Might as well attempt it if that is the case. They'll riot anyway, and the police will be there in big numbers if we do to hopefully deal with the filth.
There's always going to be people bigging it up MP; they're hardly going to say they're stopping in to wash their hair! :D

On another fb group though, one Muslim lad who is more level-headed said that the Muslim youth have no intention of rioting because of the jail sentences handed down to some of them following the 2001 aggro.
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Feb 19 2010, 01:02 PM
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Feb 19 2010, 12:46 PM
the language being used in this thread worries me.

'the place is full of muslims and they should all fukk off back to saudi' and the like. I thoght the DL's was about highlighting the problem of radical islamists teaching violent jihad? this is just about paky bashing, pure and simple. the talk of 'its our town so we can go where we like' reeks of small minded bigotry. yes, its an english street, but theyre english so its thiers too. youre confusing race with nationality. they might look bangladeshi, but a huge number were born in Bradford.

march in there with this attitude and you will attract the bnp and nf and all the scummy racists and hooligans in the country. there will almost certainly be a riot, you will be held responsible, you will be added to the list of banned organisations and will have achieved nothing.
Once again you put across another good and valid point cris
what a predictable love in!! Don't go, we need real troopers for whats coming in this country, but there is always that nice Sally Army to blow one's trumpet.
Bradford is atypical of whats wrong in this country.
I have an even better venue to demo, how about Sarrat a nicel ittle village west of watford, population about 1.000 Muslims nil. They would bring out the cuecumber sarnies at half time and the local Bobby would keep us rabid lot under control. We could holler out our message, and the locals would look at bewilderment and ask one another 'is this not what happens in all those places in 'Bigger' England, haven't got a clue what a damned Islamist is.
Lets get real, what are we demo'ing against? And when you finally answer that question, surely it needs to be where the problem actually is?
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Every post cris ,robbo and occasionaly Charlie put up on the forums really gets on my tits .

anyway , Bradford my home town is going even further down the s**t pipe ( yeh it's possible )
Watching the Muslims preech in the centre of town , leaflets saying " Islam better for Bradford " and the like it's disgusting and makes me sick, I don't understand why other people have been so tolerant to be honest.

The musketeers at the top , ain't helping tension within the EDL either !!!!
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wow what rage. I really don't want to see violence in Bradford, innocent ppl getting hurt, damage to property, it's not right. Feel free to express peacefull opposition to radical muslims but no violence. I'm from that area and really don't want to see any more bad things.

What always puzzles me, if you want to go for the thrill of a fight, I can suggest a few locations out of town where you can set up a battleground and fight all day with no damage to property or innocent ppl. You can draw out all your opponents for a feisty confrontation all you wish.
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Feb 20 2010, 10:26 AM
wow what rage. I really don't want to see violence in Bradford, innocent ppl getting hurt, damage to property, it's not right. Feel free to express peacefull opposition to radical muslims but no violence. I'm from that area and really don't want to see any more bad things.

What always puzzles me, if you want to go for the thrill of a fight, I can suggest a few locations out of town where you can set up a battleground and fight all day with no damage to property or innocent ppl. You can draw out all your opponents for a feisty confrontation all you wish.
The only thing enraging people is those who keep coming on this forum and saying call it off because there's going to be a riot! It's just a demo - nobody is calling for violence!
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wow what rage. I really don't want to see violence in Bradford, innocent ppl getting hurt, damage to property, it's not right. Feel free to express peacefull opposition to radical muslims but no violence. I'm from that area and really don't want to see any more bad things.

What always puzzles me, if you want to go for the thrill of a fight, I can suggest a few locations out of town where you can set up a battleground and fight all day with no damage to property or innocent ppl. You can draw out all your opponents for a feisty confrontation all you wish.
Who are your remarks aimed at?

There hasn't been any calls for violence here, the exact opposite in fact.
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Feb 20 2010, 10:49 AM
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wow what rage. I really don't want to see violence in Bradford, innocent ppl getting hurt, damage to property, it's not right. Feel free to express peacefull opposition to radical muslims but no violence. I'm from that area and really don't want to see any more bad things.

What always puzzles me, if you want to go for the thrill of a fight, I can suggest a few locations out of town where you can set up a battleground and fight all day with no damage to property or innocent ppl. You can draw out all your opponents for a feisty confrontation all you wish.
Who are your remarks aimed at?

There hasn't been any calls for violence here, the exact opposite in fact.
exactly ruby, the only people saying its gonna be a riot are the doubters and its them setting a precedent for the trouble makers to follow, they will think oh its gonna kick off anyway lets tag along.

at least think positive, why are some people being so pessimistic, im sure bradford will be a huge sucess and we got 3months to prepare and get the EDL message out about it. stoke wasnt that much of a dissaster alot more positive s than negatives IMO, and those who think it was i'll say this, dont look back look forward EDL are going somewhere because we will never surrender.

rant over roll on london.
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we are supposed to be a one issue movement.

but reading through the posts i see bits of barely masked marxism leaking out, one of the the biggest obstacles we face is this PACIFISM that seems so kool to bang on about { which is another form of appeasement} i dont give two monkey's fcuks why our troops are where they are, having served myself i suport them no matter what.

dont march here dont march there, lets just have a nice cup o tea an let someone else stop islamisation.

this post is aimed at no one in particular, but i think we need to be aware of some people's motive's. we knew from the start that people would try to mingle in with us to divide & conquer....

were in afghanistan after what occured in 9/11 remember, fcuking oil pipelines { read BOB BAER'S SEE NO EVIL} regarding oil pipeline contracts involving armenia-tajikistan turkey -russia etc ...we are not there for no fcuking oil or oil pipelines, thats just the sort of conspiracy argument that backs up the islamists excuses for their behaviour.

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i dont give two monkey's fcuks why our troops are where they are, having served myself i suport them no matter what.
I give a fcuk why they are there, even if I support them! There are many countries in the world where people are persecuted and massacred yet the west ignores them! That not only gets my back up but makes me wonder why they ignore them!

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rob77 i joined the edl to stand-up to those who threaten our way of life, i do though however wonder what your reason for being here is. we have had many like you come on here and question where when or why and they all end up leaving by the exit. with or without you this movement will continue to grow, with or without you more people will awaken from their sleep-walk. we wont miss you if you dont go to bradford, nor will we miss others who feel it is wrong to go there. i dont give a stuff, i'm an edl member for the same reason im going to london dudley and bradford, i love this country and i'll do whatever it takes to rid it of those that seek to destroy it!
Road Rage i have been fighting to save 'our way of life' since the 1970s my friend ;) but frankly i am not convinced you any many EDL are. open your eyes man it is you who are sleepwalking into the destruction of what is british way of life. islamification, and i despise that nasty fundamentalism as much as you do, is only going to happen in a few small areas and the next generation, most 'muslim' kids do not give a **** about islam.

But tell me about the British way of life? what have you done to defend it? did you oppose Thatcher selling off all the utilities so they are now owned by foreign companies? did you oppose the Tory road plan that destroyed so much of our countryside? did you defend the British miners and the British mining industry? did you oppose the deregulation and privatisation of our public services? and that led to the mass import of cheap foreign labour? did you oppose the ending of sons and daughters housing policies that helped destroy our communities? are you opposing the destruction of our pubs by speculators? are you opposing the massive use of CCTV and the threat of ID cards? have you fought for the countryside which has been destroyed by every successive goverment? somehow i doubt it. the British way of life is more than Muslims.

You seem to think muslims are the main threat to our way of life! rubbish mate. they are being scapegoated so people take their eye of what is really happening in this country. that the rich thieves who run this country are ripping us off right left and centre and we the British working class are doing nothing to stop them

EDL was quite rightly set up after the Luton events to oppose these scum, the jihadis who were lucky they did not get lynched in my opinion. BUt if the EDL grows the way you suggest it will simply be as a meeting ground for BNP and Nazis to kick off and all the good work people like Joel has done will be wasted

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“islamification, and i despise that nasty fundamentalism as much as you do, is only going to happen in a few small areas”


I don‘t want to be confrontational mate because hopefully we’re on the same side but “a few small areas”?

Try telling that to the people who live in Bolton, Preston, Burnley, Wigan, Oldham, Blackburn and many other small towns within, and in the vicinity of, East Lancashire.

You need to wake up to current reality. If that’s what you truly believe then it appears to be yourself who has been doing the “sleepwalking”.

Also, you are wrong imply that Islamification is the same as Fundamentalism. Two different things mate.
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rob77 i joined the edl to stand-up to those who threaten our way of life, i do though however wonder what your reason for being here is. we have had many like you come on here and question where when or why and they all end up leaving by the exit. with or without you this movement will continue to grow, with or without you more people will awaken from their sleep-walk. we wont miss you if you dont go to bradford, nor will we miss others who feel it is wrong to go there. i dont give a stuff, i'm an edl member for the same reason im going to london dudley and bradford, i love this country and i'll do whatever it takes to rid it of those that seek to destroy it!
Road Rage i have been fighting to save 'our way of life' since the 1970s my friend ;) but frankly i am not convinced you any many EDL are. open your eyes man it is you who are sleepwalking into the destruction of what is british way of life. islamification, and i despise that nasty fundamentalism as much as you do, is only going to happen in a few small areas and the next generation, most 'muslim' kids do not give a **** about islam.

But tell me about the British way of life? what have you done to defend it? did you oppose Thatcher selling off all the utilities so they are now owned by foreign companies? did you oppose the Tory road plan that destroyed so much of our countryside? did you defend the British miners and the British mining industry? did you oppose the deregulation and privatisation of our public services? and that led to the mass import of cheap foreign labour? did you oppose the ending of sons and daughters housing policies that helped destroy our communities? are you opposing the destruction of our pubs by speculators? are you opposing the massive use of CCTV and the threat of ID cards? have you fought for the countryside which has been destroyed by every successive goverment? somehow i doubt it. the British way of life is more than Muslims.

You seem to think muslims are the main threat to our way of life! rubbish mate. they are being scapegoated so people take their eye of what is really happening in this country. that the rich thieves who run this country are ripping us off right left and centre and we the British working class are doing nothing to stop them

EDL was quite rightly set up after the Luton events to oppose these scum, the jihadis who were lucky they did not get lynched in my opinion. BUt if the EDL grows the way you suggest it will simply be as a meeting ground for BNP and Nazis to kick off and all the good work people like Joel has done will be wasted

robo 77 you've been fighting for the british way of life since the 70's have you fella well according to you your birthday was 1 jan 1977 so you 've been fighting in your nappies then? to be a good liar you.ve gotta have a good memory was gonna say wake up and smell the coffee but maybe smell the bulls**t is more apt. troll alert anyone?
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To be fair my birthday is listed as 1st Jan 1993 and weren't there around 200 other peoples birthdays highlighted new year's day?

Btw I'm not a troll either just couldn't be arsed to set my birthdate!
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Feb 19 2010, 09:57 AM
While I don't think marching through Bradford is a mistake I am concerned with the number of local people wishing to tag along just for a bit of "paki-bashing." That is worrying as the EDL attempts to peacefully demonstrate, and we all know the UAF and local riot boys will be out in force to cause bother. Local thugs taggin along simply for the fight is not something we need.

Incidently, the UAF are already trying to recruit in Bradford. Their even approaching black youths saying we hate them. Apparently a young black lad has signned up to an EDL facebook group and posted the full story.
There will be a few UAF guys in the edl contingent acting as provocatuers. Also alot of neo nazi types will be there to try and manipulate the edl to there own agenda.

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This topic is done. We are going Bradford! If anyone sees anyone doing any nazi salutes or any UAF infiltraitors, then get a few lads together, tell a leader and kick them out of the demo :)
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yep,that's the way forward
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the muslims do a mean curry, the best curryhouses are in Bradford. Enjoy the food and don't trash the restaurant!
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A lot of Birthdays on here are not the real ones. But, my real one is tomorrow.

:) Happy birthday for tomorrow, hon. :)

It is your birthday tomorrow, isn't it?

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the muslims do a mean curry, the best curryhouses are in Bradford. Enjoy the food and don't trash the restaurant!
Just boycott them. Find a proper Indian run by Sikhs or Hindus and make sure they're not serving Halal meat. If they are, find a different restaurant altogether.
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Feb 20 2010, 02:04 PM
yep,that's the way forward
you, me and the walking stix a fella! also me wheelchair incase we need that quick getawy B-)
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Feb 20 2010, 01:09 PM
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robo77:

“islamification, and i despise that nasty fundamentalism as much as you do, is only going to happen in a few small areas”


I don‘t want to be confrontational mate because hopefully we’re on the same side but “a few small areas”?

Try telling that to the people who live in Bolton, Preston, Burnley, Wigan, Oldham, Blackburn and many other small towns within, and in the vicinity of, East Lancashire.

You need to wake up to current reality. If that’s what you truly believe then it appears to be yourself who has been doing the “sleepwalking”.

Also, you are wrong imply that Islamification is the same as Fundamentalism. Two different things mate.
And its not just the northern towns, We have Luton, Harrow, West and North Watford to name a few in my neck of the woods, and places that would appear to be nice leafy parts of the country with areas a white person would not walk through at night. I think you have to look at the problem globally to see what is ahppening here. It is the islamificaction of every major town in Europe
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Feb 19 2010, 06:19 PM
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Feb 19 2010, 06:10 PM

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It did make the news and was tried has a racial murder but dont let the facts get in the way

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Yeah the noise was so loud, even us avid news watchers down south really had to look hard to find it.
Where was the condemnation from community leaders, and anti racist orgs? NONE! To them racism can only happen to people of colour or non Brit whites.
Tell us Charlie on what paper did Kriss get front page news outside of Scotland? Compare this to any crime against a Muslim in any part of the country, even world it gets headlines in the Fooking Watford Observer a rag that reached 20,000 watfordonians. Don't imply the bias we all witness is in our heads, it freaking well surrounds us all the time.

But a quetsion to you, if evertthing is so f**king hunky dory as your defence of our hysterical posts suggest, are you here for any other reason then to espout your pacifist Christian views (and possibly the fact the only real issue to you is that the muslims pray to mohammed rather than jesus)? Cos I don't get you at all
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yep,that's the way forward
you, me and the walking stix a fella! also me wheelchair incase we need that quick getawy B-)
hping to be fit for bolton ;)
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And its not just the northern towns, We have Luton, Harrow, West and North Watford to name a few in my neck of the woods, and places that would appear to be nice leafy parts of the country with areas a white person would not walk through at night. I think you have to look at the problem globally to see what is ahppening here. It is the islamificaction of every major town in Europe
Couldn't agree more mate. It's Countrywide now. :(
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Feb 19 2010, 11:25 PM
Ok no muslims turn up . There was none at stoke who caused the trouble not the U.A.F no where to be seen .

Bradford will once again go pear shape smashing up shops fighting the police smashing cars that really is a stand against muslim extremist oh well at least we claimed Bradford back
and you were there at Stoke? The rioting part was nominal in comparison to the numbers who did not participate in that crap. Get you facts right. And while at it lets see a public condemnation of your two UAF pals who were doing that nazi salute for media effect. Charlie, come see me at a demo then all this talking can stop
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Feb 19 2010, 08:42 PM
Where should we do demo's?

If we dont go to Bradford where else shouldnt we go,Bolton,Oldham,Luton,East London just cos it may go off?

We have to go places like these as these are the places that have been radicalised.
well mate like I siad in an earlir post there are a few nice all white spots in the countryside west of Watford. We could even go to contentious spots like Wheathampstead, St Albans etc. That would certainly suit the pacifist movement with-in. Or we could go with what you suggets and go where we are really needed.
If we listened to what some people are saying the united people of Luton movemnet would not have protested in Luton as that would have been seen as war mongering.
Some people are really talking bollocks on this forum and they need a nice little tea party to go and fulfil their fantasies of what ever they see behind their rose tinted glasses
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Chill Dan, were going mate don't worry, ignore the ones who don't agree with us going.

We need to really piss the Government off now, its time we took a stand, if they are banning us from protesting, then its time we showed them what we are made of.
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i suppose we have to go to bradford as there is muslim militants living there, so we have to show up to let them all know we mean buisness. It might get messy but if we all stick together on the day, we watch each others backs then hopefully we will get through the day unscathed
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Lol Tony,I'd like to know where people think we should be going cos if we dont do the areas that are bad then whats the point.

do them how?

i dont see what marching into bradford is going to achieve other than stirring up racial tensions, something that suits the far right who will undoubtedly be there to encourage and inflame any situation they can.

this will only serve in having the defence leagues put into the same basket case file as the NF, BFF, WPWW and all the other moronic race hate groups.
ah you have named all the far right nutters but what about our great unwashed against Facism and their red cohort groups? Left and right extremism is almost indisguingishable from each other and both have commited huge attrocities when given power (Far Right = Germany and Italy and some sth American Juntas) Far left (USSR, China, Cambodia and some central american hell holes) infact far more people have died under the loving nurturing arms of communism than ever did nazism/ facism so why the this continuos romanticiastion of the left? They are so similar its untrue. We I think are here to maintain our historic stance of middle ground and defend that from the real threat in front of us, which by the way is not Nick Griffin or John Tyndall whatever you may think of them but more like Choudray and Galloway and the ilk
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also they cant f@@@ing ban us from protesting we have rights too
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wow what rage. I really don't want to see violence in Bradford, innocent ppl getting hurt, damage to property, it's not right. Feel free to express peacefull opposition to radical muslims but no violence. I'm from that area and really don't want to see any more bad things.

What always puzzles me, if you want to go for the thrill of a fight, I can suggest a few locations out of town where you can set up a battleground and fight all day with no damage to property or innocent ppl. You can draw out all your opponents for a feisty confrontation all you wish.
Who are your remarks aimed at?

There hasn't been any calls for violence here, the exact opposite in fact.
your right Ruby no one has asked for us to go to Bradford for a war, and neither did Road Rage. In fact the protest has come from those who probably will not be going to any demo unless it is in utopia.
If 80% of the Mozzie population is really against islamisfiaction as Tony suggets, perhaps then it is time they come out and actually said so.
I find it funny and true to type that those who lean to the left on this forum are atypical to those who have been guilty of the downfall of this nation. That is Pontifcating, philisophical, apologist and do nothing.
Oh and that guy who has defended 'our way of life' since the seventies is an affront to those of us who really have served their country wherever they have been asked to go and I find it equally depressing that these people refer back to Thatchers governance but somehow gloss over Blair and Browns absolute decimation of our country.
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I can tell you that robbo77 has previously started a thread that have promoted a group called IWCA(independent working class association). Another poster called acabac has also done likewise, although he hasn't made a comment on not going to Bradford.

The IWCA is linked to Fashwatch (www.fashwatch.org)which is linked to Antifa. Fashwatch like Antifa brand the EDL as fascist and therefore the enemy.

This I hope explains where robbo77 and his ilk are coming from. xcrisx I have no idea about but who gives a crap, Bradford is on and the EDL are going, end of story!
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robo 77 you've been fighting for the british way of life since the 70's have you fella well according to you your birthday was 1 jan 1977 so you 've been fighting in your nappies then? to be a good liar you.ve gotta have a good memory was gonna say wake up and smell the coffee but maybe smell the bulls**t is more apt. troll alert anyone?
shock! i used a false birthday! it's closer to 57! :) and big deal. and by the way you know what a troll would be saying in this thread? they'd be winding it up going " lets all go to Bradford, it'll be fine, the muzzies are etc etc etc " lots of good work could go west here. the UAF and the Islamists are loving this. it is playing right into their hands. not clever
Remember there is bad in the Gospels too; (Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB)
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Feb 20 2010, 05:12 PM
I can tell you that robbo77 has previously started a thread that have promoted a group called IWCA(independent working class association). Another poster called acabac has also done likewise, although he hasn't made a comment on not going to Bradford.

The IWCA is linked to Fashwatch (www.fashwatch.org)which is linked to Antifa. Fashwatch like Antifa brand the EDL as fascist and therefore the enemy.

This I hope explains where robbo77 and his ilk are coming from. xcrisx I have no idea about but who gives a crap, Bradford is on and the EDL are going, end of story!
I did not start that thread but read the link and I liked what they were saying and i think many EDL people will agree with what they say for example they are against multi-culturalism. You said they had links to the far left and that may be right but they now seem to hate the left as much as EDL! a bit confusing! http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/2404932/1/#new

look i'm quiet open in being on the 'left wing' of the EDL, But I agree with the EDL objectives as much as any right winger and maybe more so as i think most rightwingers have are just using this to have a go at all muslims. btw someone asked what i was involved with many years ago and it was not on the left i can assure you ;) ;) but I grew up as I met and worked with people from all backgrounds and realised we are all the same. i just hate politicians,mullahs and all self appointed leaders

and Blair and Brown as bad as Thatcher? yes of course!
Remember there is bad in the Gospels too; (Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB)
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Feb 20 2010, 05:12 PM
I can tell you that robbo77 has previously started a thread that have promoted a group called IWCA(independent working class association). Another poster called acabac has also done likewise, although he hasn't made a comment on not going to Bradford.

The IWCA is linked to Fashwatch (www.fashwatch.org)which is linked to Antifa. Fashwatch like Antifa brand the EDL as fascist and therefore the enemy.

This I hope explains where robbo77 and his ilk are coming from. xcrisx I have no idea about but who gives a crap, Bradford is on and the EDL are going, end of story!
I did not start that thread but read the link and I liked what they were saying and i think many EDL people will agree with what they say for example they are against multi-culturalism. You said they had links to the far left and that may be right but they now seem to hate the left as much as EDL! a bit confusing! http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/2404932/1/#new

look i'm quiet open in being on the 'left wing' of the EDL, But I agree with the EDL objectives as much as any right winger and maybe more so as i think most rightwingers have are just using this to have a go at all muslims. btw someone asked what i was involved with many years ago and it was not on the left i can assure you ;) ;) but I grew up as I met and worked with people from all backgrounds and realised we are all the same. i just hate politicians,mullahs and all self appointed leaders

and Blair and Brown as bad as Thatcher? yes of course!
no we are not all the same at all, foget skin coliur this isnt about the colour of your skin, its about value, ours and theres they have come here to make a better life for themselves and to escape what they left behind, but they dont do they, they bring thereways with them, they bring with them the very thing they were supposedly escaping. yes ive met many people in my life from all different walks of life, and it come down to values. if people come here theyshould come here to share theri culture not impose it on a host nation. i wouldnt go to a muslim country and expect them to bend over backwards for me so why should i for them. when the west indian community came here they didnt impose their culture on us they shared their culture. perfect example is the notting hill carnival. black people didnt go around blowing themselves up on the underground or flying plaanes into sky scrapers. now what ever colour you are or whatever religion you are, this country has its own culture, we'll share it with you we dont impose it on you. multiculturism only works when those who come here share our values. not like the muslims who come here expecting us to bend over backwards for them. no one else does it. but now we have a situation in this country where hindus have now been aloud to burn their dead on pyres. ffs, this is a christian country, if you want to burn your dead in that way go back to india where it is your culture. no one forced anybody to come to this country, so dont force your culture on us!

now for those that seem to swing to the left, i dont think you get it, doing nothing gets you knowehere doing something gets you noticed. i can tell you now the more the edl demo the more the support grows for the nationalist parties in this country. so either the governemnt staerts listening or all 3 main parties will see there power bases ebb away. now i aint going to bradford or anywhere to cause trouble, i'm disabled its a big no from me on that. but i will express my right to peacful protest wherever it may be needed. i will go to these places because i am english i hold no fear!
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well put rr ;)
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Robo77, no you're right, you didn't start the thread about IWCA but you did state your interest in them.

Go onto fashwatch and then go to bottom of their page and open Anti Fascists. There you'll see a link to IWCA. Infact, IWCA are linked to Red Action and endless amounts of other commie and anarchist sites which are all anti-EDL.

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Feb 20 2010, 06:12 PM
Robo77, no you're right, you didn't start the thread about IWCA but you did state your interest in them.

Go onto fashwatch and then go to bottom of their page and open Anti Fascists. There you'll see a link to IWCA. Infact, IWCA are linked to Red Action and endless amounts of other commie and anarchist sites which are all anti-EDL.

On the subject of groups and sites that are anti-EDL, it just struck me while reading Germanic's comment that it would interesting to pinpoint the sites and groups that are actually PRO EDL.

EDL detractors seem to be on all sides, from right to left and yet the general feeling amongst most people on the street, is supportive, which is a huge contradiction.





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Where should we do demo's?

If we dont go to Bradford where else shouldnt we go,Bolton,Oldham,Luton,East London just cos it may go off?

We have to go places like these as these are the places that have been radicalised.
well mate like I siad in an earlir post there are a few nice all white spots in the countryside west of Watford. We could even go to contentious spots like Wheathampstead, St Albans etc. That would certainly suit the pacifist movement with-in. Or we could go with what you suggets and go where we are really needed.
If we listened to what some people are saying the united people of Luton movemnet would not have protested in Luton as that would have been seen as war mongering.
Some people are really talking bollocks on this forum and they need a nice little tea party to go and fulfil their fantasies of what ever they see behind their rose tinted glasses
scrub wheathampsteaad off that list fella, the hill dyke estate got its firts muslims last year and the number is already growing. and guess what? they dont even interact with there neighbours. how do i know this? a mate of mine lives in the same block, they are rude and obnoxious and dont speak english, so he's guessing theyve come here to milk the gravy train!
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'small areas' - yeah, like englands second city WAKE UP
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EDL are not left or right because we are non political, so our members can be from any part of the political spectrum, all that counts is are you with us.

EDL welcome all opinions on how to improve ourselves and where demos should or shouldn't be.
There are many options open to us and some of the problems are not in city centres, some are caused by the Saudis funding mosques and schools and we should think about targeting them, for example.

Just because some one disagrees with some one else's view does not mean that they should be banned or are trolls and I think there is too much talk of banning people, It is divisive and we need UNITY.

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i was there in Stoke Mate!!
that wasnt aimed at you boss
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Called off by leadership following the disgusting arrests yesterday, but I am not suprised and to be honest obviouisly not unhappy as it was too risky.
Remember there is bad in the Gospels too; (Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB)
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Called off by leadership following the disgusting arrests yesterday, but I am not suprised and to be honest obviouisly not unhappy as it was too risky.
More to the point.......

The authorities obviously think it's too risky !

Which absolutely proves the issue that the EDL are demanding the Government deal with.
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I think that if the authorities are worried about us going to Bradford its all the more freason to go.
I'm still up for it whether its official or not.
i dont blame the leadership BTW its obvious thety have had the treatment, we can still do unofficial stuff to show our hatred of the extremists. I was against OB co-operation anyway and after yesterdays disgusting behaviour by the OB we should not mark their card any more.
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No way. Don't back out of Bradford, it's a city that's been claimed by muslims and needs to be claimed back.
The EDL is about protesting against EXTREMISTS, so if we are met by a big Muslim opposition then they are basically calling themselves extremists.
Muslims always crack on about how a minority are extremists, well then the standard muslims should be on our side, it should be a small minority that oppose us, but I bet it won't be.

Muslims say they're standard and not extreme untill one of them gets in to power, then you'll see the rest for who they truely are and wat they really believe, I bet then it'll be the non violent Muslims that are the minority

EDL all the way boys
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