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| EDL going in dangerous direction. Do we want a race riot in Bradford? | |
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 01:08 AM Post #201 |
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well being in stoke and there actualy being no park between hanley and cobridge im going to say no |
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| Dannyeo | Feb 20 2010, 01:09 AM Post #202 |
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We are a one issue movement--how many times does that have to be said we are not here for the miners--we are not here for the countryside--etc etc but we are here for our country Danny. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:09 AM Post #203 |
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And there speaks your agenda robo77! The EDL are only against radical Islam, but you want a revolution! You're in the wrong place mate. You're here to tell us that 'Muslims', radical or otherwise, are not the problem. Some people would agree with you - others wouldn't. Whether they do or don't is besides the point. If you don't agree with the EDL then leave. You're just one of many who is trying to manipulate the EDL into fighting the fight that you want. It's not going to happen mate. No-one is going to tell us what to do - not the Nazis, not the Islamists, and not you! |
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 01:12 AM Post #204 |
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let me ask you a question robo77 were you even at the stoke demo? or are you basing your "opinion" on third hand gossip,lies and media bulls**t? |
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| robo77 | Feb 20 2010, 01:14 AM Post #205 |
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spot on Doris. I have you right there. But lets do it properly. If we end up with a society like Northern Ireland what good has that done. Britain was great because the angles the saxons the normans the viking the scots irish and welsh all mixed in and mucked in and it made us strong. what makes EDL special, proper, so bloody right, at least on paper is that as a nationalist group it says we must all unite to make our country strong again. But my worry is that if EDL ends up just being confontational we end up dividing and like i say in a NI ghetto warfare situation. that would be mad to let that happen. yes for every 10 people who can be won over with words and western british values 1 will need a bit more 'convincing' but we can keep the pressure on without winding up kids who want to be British if we let them. |
| Remember there is bad in the Gospels too; (Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB) | |
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| robo77 | Feb 20 2010, 01:16 AM Post #206 |
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We are a one issue movement--how many times does that have to be said we are not here for the miners--we are not here for the countryside--etc etc but we are here for our country Danny.[/quote]so why is Road Rage and most other people going on about British Values and Bradford is a British City and all that? That's what i'm on about. This demo has gone beyond EDL basics. |
| Remember there is bad in the Gospels too; (Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB) | |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:18 AM Post #207 |
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Be glad to stand with you in bradford if not before young fella. Tj. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:18 AM Post #208 |
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Road Rage is giving his opinion, the same as you. But whereas RR's opinions include the EDL's opinion, your opinion excludes the same! |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:21 AM Post #209 |
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Evening all. I think there's a little bit of the Friday night beer talking, just remember we're all meant to be on the same side, not fighting each other. I'm off to read some of the other threads, I'll let you guys carry on, may the best man win. |
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| Zefiris | Feb 20 2010, 01:22 AM Post #210 |
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"islamification, and i despise that nasty fundamentalism as much as you do, is only going to happen in a few small areas and the next generation, most 'muslim' kids do not give a **** about islam" Islamification in this country should happen anywhere in this country. Whether it's the whole country, an entire city or even just one street in the middle of nowhere not one scrap of British soil should be Islamised. |
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 01:22 AM Post #211 |
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spot on |
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| robo77 | Feb 20 2010, 01:23 AM Post #212 |
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no I was not. SO I am basing it on what was said on this forum at the time by respected posters and by the videos all over You Tube. There was a large group including Jeff Marsh by the sounds of it of in a stand off in a large open space and people shouting BNP BNP and 'P*** lover' at the OB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9lmFqYNOo4 |
| Remember there is bad in the Gospels too; (Jesus speaking) "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household'". (Matthew 10:34-36 NAB) | |
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 01:25 AM Post #213 |
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respected posters who have since apoligized dont come here with your left wing propaganda the bnp and reds like you deserve each other you all insane Edited by Harold Godwinson, Feb 20 2010, 01:25 AM.
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:26 AM Post #214 |
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Has that leftist c**t called CRIS been banned now? I'm waiting mods, cos all he seems to be doing is PISSING EVERYONE THE f**k OFF. He's a prime example of a leftist opposing islamic extremism, well you'd think EVERYONE would oppose it and he does, he's just dragging his anti-right wing pro far-left communist views with him, remove that prick, he's just causing trouble on the forum. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:26 AM Post #215 |
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Does that video include where Jeff told the lads shouting BNP to shut up? Edit: to grant oliver1 forgiveness - see below
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:26 AM Post #216 |
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If you watch that video Robo, Jeff Marsh can clearly be heard telling them to stop shouting BNP because that's not what we're about Edit to say sorry Rudyard crossed post |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:29 AM Post #217 |
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xcrisx you seem to be pissing a lot of people off mate, why are you so left wing? Somethings not right... |
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| robo77 | Feb 20 2010, 01:32 AM Post #218 |
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And there speaks your agenda robo77! The EDL are only against radical Islam, but you want a revolution! You're in the wrong place mate. You're here to tell us that 'Muslims', radical or otherwise, are not the problem. Some people would agree with you - others wouldn't. Whether they do or don't is besides the point. If you don't agree with the EDL then leave. You're just one of many who is trying to manipulate the EDL into fighting the fight that you want. It's not going to happen mate. No-one is going to tell us what to do - not the Nazis, not the Islamists, and not you![/quote]nope mate I am NOT saying Islam is not a problem and I am saying that Islamification should be confronted but when people start on about 'our way of life' as Road Rage did, Islam is only a small part of the problem we face. my problem here is i think this demo is NOT EDL core material. it is too muddy. like charlie I am worried FOR the EDL. I think we should concentrate on the Choudaries, the Bakris on specifc issues and the EDL will continue to prosper. And I am not trying to push the EDL in another direction. The EDDL direction is fine so far. My whole point is Bradford is too far off our core agenda. The waters are too muddy ( starts singing Cocksparrer in my head so time for bed!) |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:32 AM Post #219 |
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Something's not right! lol! ![]() Cris is offline now anyway; robo is carrying on!
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:33 AM Post #220 |
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robo77 you said you have been fighting since the 70's to preserve our way of life fair play to you but how and with whom and under what guise ? just interested to hear |
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| robo77 | Feb 20 2010, 01:33 AM Post #221 |
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yes it does and fair play to him. he has been solid on that stuff but no one has yet explained what was going in there with that. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:34 AM Post #222 |
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It's no bad thing to have people with different views contributing to a discussion. To look at an issue from all angles is exactly what's needed to define and clarify both individual and group opinion. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:38 AM Post #223 |
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Yeah I'm not saying its a bad thing, it seems xcrisx is too left though tbh. I don't think anyone should have ago at him etc. but lefties aren't really welcome here tbh lol. |
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| robo77 | Feb 20 2010, 01:39 AM Post #224 |
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vale man i am not pushing left wing propaganda. i want the EDL to suceed. i think bradford is too muddy and could destroy the EDL. maybe i should have more faith but those scenes from Stoke weren't good. Look the only EDL demos i've been too was Brum and the placards and banners were tops. there was no BNP chants, no stiff arms, and the bonheads were not happy! But that vid shows how bad Bradford could end up. |
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 01:41 AM Post #225 |
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so where would you suggest then? leeds,oldham,bradford,burnley,blackpool,bournmouth,hartleppol the same result anywhere we go also yes there were some nasty scenes in birmingham Edited by Harold Godwinson, Feb 20 2010, 01:42 AM.
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:42 AM Post #226 |
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robo,the lads that were there said these people causing the trouble were not edl have faith in your brothers
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:44 AM Post #227 |
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VAP I am going to say yes, they were cutting through forest park on the way up to Cobridge. They never got within a mile of the place tho so as for the riots etc its bollox. Mates of mine were there trying to get back to Burslem on foot and the OB were directing them that way. PS: Admin can we fook these obvious trolls off? |
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| Jethro | Feb 20 2010, 01:45 AM Post #228 |
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Beware those that try to divide and demoralize! |
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 01:47 AM Post #229 |
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yes but they werent going to the mosque though were they? just trying get home |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 01:48 AM Post #230 |
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We will not divide and conquer, forget that, we will stay as one strong massive unit. |
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 01:50 AM Post #231 |
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I'm going to bed I cant be bothered to even argue anymore.Its late,I'm tired, I'm in a bad mood and I can't really be bothered to post any intellectual answers to posts on here. |
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| robo77 | Feb 20 2010, 01:50 AM Post #232 |
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well for starters London/Parliament, and picket MPs surgeries, find out all the dodgy mosques and call demos at those and also dodgy mullahs and find out where they live and picket their houses and some may be in Bradford and thats fine. My argument about this one is it comes across as against all the muslims in Bradford. but I wonder how many people would come. i get the impression that many of the people on the demos are just there for a row. and yes there was trouble in Brum but it was very clear where it was coming from and it was not from the EDL demo |
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| charlie | Feb 20 2010, 01:51 AM Post #233 |
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Yes thats the point they werent E.D.L what were saying is the Bradford protest give the Neo-Nazis the chance to discredit us again Swansea,Stoke Bradford? |
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| charlie | Feb 20 2010, 01:57 AM Post #234 |
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Lol 500 plus were trying to get home and smashed a old womens car on the way and where was the ones without a stoke accent going for a teddy bears picnic . |
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 01:59 AM Post #235 |
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i really dont give a f**k |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 02:00 AM Post #236 |
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same here mate these pair robo77 and charlie have f**king wore me out tonight need to recharge my batteries and will carry on the good fight tomorrow God willing.. Good Luck the lad's in Edinburgh today EDL no surrender .... |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 02:02 AM Post #237 |
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Night lads, sweet dreams, I cba with this topic either atm, but I'm going to carry on the pro Bradford fight. |
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| Dannyeo | Feb 20 2010, 02:04 AM Post #238 |
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Unlike the leftie sites we allow dissenting voices--its our English way but we are watching------my personal feelings are that anybody who is fazed by a few traitorous left wing comments doesnt belong in the E.D.L.---what would they be like if things get rough? Danny. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 02:04 AM Post #239 |
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Oh yeah and f**king xcrisx tiresome commy !!!!!
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 02:05 AM Post #240 |
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Bottom line is leadership have announced that the EDL are going to peacefully protest against Islamic extremism in Bradford and that's exactly what should happen. Any groups that plan to violently counter protest the EDL are the ones that the authorities need to target and strongly dissuade from doing so. There are another three months to organise stewards/marshalls for the demo and hopefully, lessons were learnt at Stoke and there will be no repetition of the events there. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 02:08 AM Post #241 |
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Talks cheap and tiring when the going gets tough the adrenaline flows different ball game mate rite im definatley off bed stop it
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 02:08 AM Post #242 |
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I ain't f**king phased by a couple of comments what I am pissed of about is that once again its made out it was all the fault of the stoke people one word to that: bollocks if you werent there how do you know whats gone on??? e.d.l not out for myself d.l Edited by Harold Godwinson, Feb 20 2010, 02:10 AM.
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| Harold Godwinson | Feb 20 2010, 02:16 AM Post #243 |
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look sorry for being a c**t on here tonight somethings gone on earlier and I'm still raging about it. Mainly because violence was something I left in the past or thought I had but tonight the beast in me got loose
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 02:30 AM Post #244 |
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Not noticed you being a c*** mate. Hope things are looking better in the morning. |
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| Dannyeo | Feb 20 2010, 02:41 AM Post #245 |
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i was there in Stoke Mate!! |
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| Dannyeo | Feb 20 2010, 02:45 AM Post #246 |
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Thought you had gone to bed!! |
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| lagerlout | Feb 20 2010, 04:48 AM Post #247 |
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this is one Bradford lad tired of reading these negative posts plus got to get me skates on to Edingburgh take it to the streets not a pc no surrender |
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| Marco_Polio | Feb 20 2010, 07:18 AM Post #248 |
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To the ones who say going to Bradford is a mistake. The muslims are on facebook saying they'll riot whether the march goes ahead or not. Might as well attempt it if that is the case. They'll riot anyway, and the police will be there in big numbers if we do to hopefully deal with the filth. |
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| Marco_Polio | Feb 20 2010, 07:26 AM Post #249 |
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Here's a link to The Telegraph and Argus website. The article is about the superintendent of Bradford South police. See how misguided she is. Make sure you read the comments. (I hope this works as I never posted a link before. If not I apologise in advance.) http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/5019277.___Rally_will_not_spoil_relations___/ |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2010, 08:56 AM Post #250 |
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cheers marco "West Yorkshire Police mounted one of its largest operations seen in Leeds when more than 200 EDL members held a rally in the city last October." that quote takes the piss, more than 200, damn right there was! about 800 more than 200 you thick bitch. |
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but frankly i am not convinced you any many EDL are. open your eyes man it is you who are sleepwalking into the destruction of what is british way of life. islamification, and i despise that nasty fundamentalism as much as you do, is only going to happen in a few small areas and the next generation, most 'muslim' kids do not give a **** about islam.

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