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Copyright Yourself!; Maybe not as daft as it seems, can we Copyright Ourselves.
Topic Started: Feb 16 2010, 11:35 PM (171 Views)
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Now lets Brainstorm an idea I had whilst thinking about something I read recently about moves (again) to stop photographing the police,

errrrr I think here I have it. and another

Yes a little old but its my train of thought Im conveying here.

Well, being a very astute individual I started thinking along the lines of the sort of defenses the Police or the Establishment might use to justify their position of needing to do this, apart from the obvious that if Ian Tomlinson fatally pushed to the floor by one Policeman had not been filmed we wouldn't have known anything about it. It would have been pushed under the carpet and he would have been labeled, as they always do with Drug User or Drunk and no body would take any notice,

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thanks to the Guardian for the foto! :$

OK so that was a moan but the rest is on target

This started me thinking (again) that surely if I was to register my face with the relevant authorities as MY FACE copyrighted fully. Including MY SIGNATURE, copyrighted as MINE then use of my picture or signature without my personal permission for any purpose what so ever would be copyright theft. If I'm in court defending my freedoms NONE of their evidence of me exercising my rights would be admissible as evidence, because permission to make them was never sought!

Now you would think this is balmy but hesitate to give this a little thought.
I can register anything I own as copyrighted if I can prove its mine and solely mine and its Unique
I used to work within the graphics industry and copyright law is very flexable.

If I want to walk round a demo with (c)2010 written on my forehead then this is ALL I need to do after-wards to warn potential infringers of my copyright AND that I hold a Copyright Patent on it!


Your thoughts ladies and gents!

scabs

Edited by MrScabby, Feb 16 2010, 11:36 PM.
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MrScabby
Feb 16 2010, 11:35 PM
Your thoughts ladies and gents!
Well mate, you did ask.

I think I never heard such shite in my life :P
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lol, your thoughts, NOT MINE!
and this is a Brainstorming session, its to argue over!
I'll go get some more evidence then
Edited by MrScabby, Feb 16 2010, 11:39 PM.
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:D :D :D :D :D
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http://www.copyrightyourface.com/
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yes but what do you do if the wind changes?
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lol Or the OB knock it a bit out of shape with a baton first?
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lol - I think looking for loopholes are fun, they are there but you need to spot them first to take advantage
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eyare how about this then

http://www.stuff4clowns.com/registry.html

we can all turn up with clown faces
Edited by MrScabby, Feb 16 2010, 11:50 PM.
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Here see Im not alone here, read this post

http://forum.freeadvice.com/copyrights-trademarks-39/can-i-copyright-myself-facial-copyright-symbol-226702.html

and especially the reply from someone in the know, yes American but trademarks are international

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JETX and IAAL, I don't want to spoil your fun, but I thought just for the sake of completeness:

1) No, you cannot copyright your face, because it is not a "creative work."

2) A registered copyright notice is not required for copyright protection anyway, so no need to tattoo anything on anyone's face.

3) In any event, you cannot claim copyright on a creative work -- like a photograph -- that someone else has created. Only the actual creator of a work may claim the copyright.

Now, maybe the OP would like to obtain a trademark on his or her face. In that case, as long as the mark -- the OP's face -- is affixed to something used in interstate commerce -- I'll leave it up to the experts to opine on what that might mean! -- you could potentially obtain trademark protections on your face!

One more thing -- since we are discussing the potential IP protections for one's own image, why not go crazy, and try and apply trade secrets protections to your own image -- the "unknown comic" from the old "Gong Show" comes to mind here...


see look and ye shall find
Edited by MrScabby, Feb 16 2010, 11:56 PM.
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I am starting to get the impression that you are a crunchy nut short of a corn flake mate.

I think you'll fit right in :D
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Hahaha f**king amazing idea mate! Remember, loopholes are there to be found!
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theres some use in this, were about 1 year away from total face recognition technology everywhere, the id card will be in full swing even sooner

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/passports-and-immigration/id-cards/index.html

http://www.citizencard.com/

the chip in it is the smoking gun, the scanners register it in the shopping centre flags it up to auto face recognition and bobs ya uncle someone you dont know knows who you are and were you are

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-566181/Hi-tech-face-recognition-cameras-used-Budgens-spot-underage-drinkers.html

http://epic.org/privacy/facerecognition/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_recognition_system

they going to sneak this s**t in under your nose then boom

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BOOM if you aint got your card on you there gonna want to know why .... and BOOM if your card doesnt match your face then off to jail you go till they figure out who you are

BOOM BOOM BOOM no more crime How?

the clever bit is the mk2 version of the id card its implanted into you when your born

once all this s**t takes off if you aint marked you cant live in society

and if your naughty they turn your chip off watch this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVEPlxwlzCE

this is not a dream ..... this is happening

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From small things,

There is a little contradiction in that whilst we are the most watched country(sorry, test bed) on the globe, we are the most open country at the moment. I mean they couldn't accept anymore than they have if they tried, we got all and sundry coming in and at the same time they are sticking up cameras everywhere.

hmm

We could of cause flip my logic on its head and go after their faces. There is nothing stopping us throwing up a picture/video gallery and allowing posters anonymity in exposing people in so called 'trust jobs'. Council staff included!

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It would not work.
Even copyrighted works are eligable to be used under "fair use" laws.
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Am I the only one that thinks were living under Communism rules now? Labour is a dictator in my eyes.
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yes the card is being piloted but it will come law soon that every citizen regardless of race etc will have to carry 1, with all the bull s**t terrorism like 911 thats flying about we the people will welcome the id scheme which will be a good thing for a time then 1 day you will wake up and realise you have a copper with you everywhere you go then the really stupid pc laws will come into play and it will be very hard to live free in society sooner or later were all gonna see this and then the killing begins if we leave it too long our efforts will be in vain and anybody who opposes this will go to a nwo re education centre or if you continually play up you will be piled on top of 2 of your fellow like minded patriots in a plastic box and sent to a furnace near you. . But of course for all this to happen we need a controled amount of civil unrest. theyve nearly set everything up in america and are ready to roll there were as here in the uk things are a little slowwer but the titan prisons and furnaces are popping up .
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Feb 23 2010, 11:23 AM
yes the card is being piloted but it will come law soon that every citizen regardless of race etc will have to carry 1, with all the bull s**t terrorism like 911 thats flying about we the people will welcome the id scheme which will be a good thing for a time
There is nothing good about an ID card, they are there solely, to catalogue, monitor and control Joe Public, for no other reason. You've already seen the police/State abuse their powers this weekend, once you are all on a data system it will be even easier for them.

The government tells us that they're there to help prevent terrorism and crime. Really? Well all of our terrorists are home grown, not foreign nationals and even if they are foreign, how does an ID card help. All the 9/11 guys had IDs, they were called passports, that didn't stop them. Let's be honest, all IDs can be forged for a cost, any criminal network or terrorist network will be able to make/get decent forgeries. The people who won't be able to forge them are Joe Public and that is who they are aimed at.

Did you know that the supermarkets make their loyalty card data available to the government? The government initially passed legislation so that the NHS could access it in case food had become contaminated/poisoned and that way they could trace all those that had bough it very quickly. Of course the legislation was then updated later on to include all departments including HMRC, so if you're self employed watch out your expenditure doesn't exceed your declared income.

Here's a good article on ID cards. http://arcticcompass.blogspot.com/2009/09/those-pesty-id-cards-everyone-will-have.html
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When they said that they were going to create a central database of everyone's medical records it was touted by them as an access all areas database that will give medical staff access to everyone's medical details when they are needed, meaning if you had an accident on holiday they could access all the information that would be needed instantly.

I told everyone I knew about the possible abuses that would come from 300,000 medical staff with access to such a database.
I urged them to 'Opt-Out' of this 'spine' as they call it.

Out of all the people who I told not one did this. I personally opted out! Now it's too late. If your on your on for good!
You may think this sort of information is irrelevant,

pimple on my ass 5 years ago! who's interested in that!

But its not the information that we need to examine here its the motive, The very first use of this database was for the Department of Work and Pensions to aid them in throwing people off disability and the sick. Future uses are endless but its creation was not intended just for medical reasons. They are all being created as means of social control.

Now lets examine the access issues, 300,000 medical staff would reportedly have access to this database. Why?

From a computer programmers point of view the security of such information would be a major nightmare. With access to the system by such a number of people would almost certainly result in at least a few breaches a year!
Why is the Police DNA database held is such security, accessed by only a few qualified people and yet they state this medical database will be secure being accessed by 300,000 people. Something is amiss with this part of their logic also.

The only reason I can see for leaving a system so badly protected would be to create the chance of theft, ie so the information could be sold!

Still reckon your medical information is safe?
Still think your information isn't worth anything?
Still think your going to get health insurance next year?
Still think your going to qualify for air travel, car insurance. Your premiums staying the same or are they creeping up and up?

Getting back to the point here is these records are only worth a fortune on the Black Market? Why secure it?

We could go on here to other breaches of information, lost data keys, missing disks? again all the data is worthless except on the Black Market?

Every households bank details who claims Child Support! - I couldn't stop laughing when I heard that one at the shear level of stupidity required to ALLOW this sort of breach to happen at all. Some office dickhead took out the whole database on a pen and lost it. Even if he bothered to encrypt it which he didn't! -- You couldn't make it up could you! How! Why!

It's almost as if the designer of the system intended for a breach to occur so providing cover for something else which would be noticed if the breach hadn't occurred to cover it up!.
"It is my belief that at this level of Government, for this to happen it could only happen by design"

As you follow the logic to it's ugly, corrupt, sticking, fraudulent end, I think you don't need me to liable myself in pointing your heads in the direction of the accused.

If there is any greater reason to bring back hanging for treason, I can think of none better!

My point here is these methods of control only work with our consent. We need to be actively participating in this for it to work.

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing!"

When they introduced tracking of our phones I stopped carrying a tri-band one. I switched to an old two 'dual-band' one. Reason, well they need three points of reference to read someones position, with a dual band they can pinpoint which Town I call from IF they know my number. I have another phone, that one is always at home and that is the one I give em for official reasons. Why! because I happen to value my freedom! and being tracked is not on my list.

I also have a policy of being suspicious of anyone asking for my details on anything! I opt out of all databases if possible, I have a negligible online fingerprint and if they bring in identity cards then they can imprison me because I will not be carrying one! We defeated the Poll Tax and this will be dealt with in the same fashion. By us saying NO!

Anyway I'll shut up for now, me tea is ready and Im gonna eat!

If you want any help with ICT things and I can I dont mind, PM me and I will do me best!

Phil
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Edited by MrScabby, Feb 24 2010, 06:43 PM.
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