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Young angry and white
Topic Started: Feb 13 2010, 01:21 AM (662 Views)
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n July 2009, almost a million voters chose the BNP in the EU elections. But it's not just traditional BNP voters swelling the ranks, with a recent survey finding one in 20 young people would vote BNP.

Against this backdrop, Peter Beard follows 19-year-old Kieren, who is considering joining the party.

Kieren is looking for a home in the BNP but is unsure that it represents his views. Having been a fervent nationalist from the age of 15, he is concerned that the BNP is losing its radical edge and selling out its racial policies.

His choice is made more difficult by the fact he comes from a moderate family who find many of his far-right views shocking. There is concern that the opinions and choices he is making at a young age could have serious consequences for his future.

This fascinating First Cut documentary offers an insight into a young person's attraction to a party whose policies and image continue to cause extreme controversy throughout the country.

If you'd like to share your views about the issues raised in this film, please leave a comment below. The commissioning editor of Young, Angry and White will be reading and responding to viewer feedback next week

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Has anybody seen this yet, I felt extremely sad watching this program.
I find it hard that people have such extreme racist views and the fact that young people are turning to the neo nazi side.
I hope that the young lad changes his views and see's the light which is racism and fascism is wrong and unhealthy physically and mentally and that you can still be a nationalist and patriot but without the hatred.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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Maybe you live in a white cushy place where everyone gets on. Come to Birmingham in a Asian area for a month and see how much hatred you have for them after that. You will be abused to f**k until you have to move. So I can see where the hate comes from. Dunno if this is the case with him as I didn't watch. When people get on the high horse though saying how they don't understand them pisses me off.
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Maybe you live in a white cushy place where everyone gets on. Come to Birmingham in a Asian area for a month and see how much hatred you have for them after that. You will be abused to f**k until you have to move. So I can see where the hate comes from. Dunno if this is the case with him as I didn't watch. When people get on the high horse though saying how they don't understand them pisses me off.

The point is that some young muslim kids act the way they do because that is there religion and culture and it is mixed with violent city life. If you want to be angry blame the politicians.

I am from a racial mixed city actaul, Mass immigration I do not support. I would like to see unpatriotic anti British foreigners removed with illeagals and bogus asylum seekers.
However that boy on the show was a nazi Simple as, if you know anything about the real far right you would know he is a nazi.
The boy hates the BNP because they are now introduction a non white membership into the group.
The point is this group is not racist and I would imagine most non white patriotic members or other groups nazi's hate like jews would be extremely upset that people hold such views.
Edited by southwales, Feb 13 2010, 01:35 AM.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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Facism and racism, the tags used by the lefty brigade, for real facism and racism look no further than labour, as they direct it against the indigenous population thats deemed acceptable. Take note of harmans ludicrously named equalities act which will legalise discrimination against white males in favour of black, asian, and women. This government are the most radical ever to get into no10, and they have been guilty of reverse discrimination throughout their terms in office.
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I agree, it pisses me off 2. The lad is entitled to whatever views he wants to hold. The word racist or facist is no more than a boring attempt at guilt tripping just like what the uaf spout. Whats so wrong about being proud of being white and seeing the reality of this multicultural hellhole. Its not about hating people because they are'nt white its about seeing the manufactured destruction of a people.
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Feb 13 2010, 01:25 AM
Maybe you live in a white cushy place where everyone gets on. Come to Birmingham in a Asian area for a month and see how much hatred you have for them after that. You will be abused to f**k until you have to move. So I can see where the hate comes from. Dunno if this is the case with him as I didn't watch. When people get on the high horse though saying how they don't understand them pisses me off.
im a product of my enviroment also foreigners made me who i am today, between 1993 and 1998 i was muged around 6 times always the same description i was always on my own and their was numrous of them then my nan was muged at 67 kicked to the floor by 2 she had lived in peckham all her life now lives in wales. now if i was to have went and got a few white boys together to go and tackle it back then i would have been a racist attack in the eyes of the police this is why i hate the multicult and i have many more stories living in se london ive never muged anyone some races just have it inbuilt
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The labour party and the rest of the goverment are more tolitarian and authoritarian than fascist.
You are totally right about the Labour party working against patriotism and the white working class.
I totally support the white working class right to be white working class and paid fairly and to remain patriotic.
I am also totally aware that the goverment is extremely anti white and does favour immigrants and people of colour due to guilty concious and other agendas.
However there is a difference between those principle's and the principles of kieran on the show.
There is a difference between being proud of your heritage and country and blatantly discriminating and wishing bad fortune on coloured people patriotic or not.
Edited by southwales, Feb 13 2010, 01:44 AM.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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I only caught the second half of the show but i didn't see him expressing any racist and or fascist views?
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Feb 13 2010, 01:47 AM
I only caught the second half of the show but i didn't see him expressing any racist and or fascist views?
Then I would seriously watch the whole thing, Then check out the National front and British movement to see exactly why it is fascism.
Due to people taking what I said the wrong way, People seem to think im some kind of Anti British anti white hammer and stickle uaf type.
(Seriously if you do take a grip) ;)
Edited by southwales, Feb 13 2010, 01:55 AM.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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Yeah you are from a fluffy loving multicultural city where everyone gets on. But do you have to live with them?
By the looks of it at the start the kid does, and that asian bloke was looking at him like he was a pieace of s**t.
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living in se london ive never muged anyone some races just have it inbuilt

Some religions have it inbuilt, They just use race as an excuse racists and ethnic.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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Its funny how these radical muslim groups never get tagged with the racist/facist label. If the bnp want a meet it invariably gets banned, abu hamza and his cronies on the other hand are tolerated due to their right to free speech. Free speech denied the indigenous people, cant have it both ways. And lets not forget its not the bnp that flies aircraft into buildings and uses women and children as suicide bombers, seems the latter have more right to free speech in labours britain.
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No mate, your using the word racist facist as a stick to attack his views just like the uaf would do. Just because you dont agree doesnt make him wrong. He had the bollocks to go on national tv and speak much truth. The country is a multicultural cesspit and he deserves credit for doin it in my opinion.
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Feb 13 2010, 01:59 AM
Its funny how these radical muslim groups never get tagged with the racist/facist label. If the bnp want a meet it invariably gets banned, abu hamza and his cronies on the other hand are tolerated due to their right to free speech. Free speech denied the indigenous people, cant have it both ways. And lets not forget its not the bnp that flies aircraft into buildings and uses women and children as suicide bombers, seems the latter have more right to free speech in labours britain.
I totally dissagree, It is obviously that the silent minority has stopped being so quite.
People do not like muslim fundamentalism and sharia law, That is why so many people are marching EDL related or not.
A welsh march was banned and people arrested which had absolutely nothing to do with the WDL.
The reason why the goverment and the media does not condemn muslim extremism and violence is because they are too politically correct and it would damage there "multicultralism loving reputation" and there huge salaries and bonuses.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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No mate, your using the word racist facist as a stick to attack his views just like the uaf would do. Just because you dont agree doesnt make him wrong. He had the bollocks to go on national tv and speak much truth. The country is a multicultural cesspit and he deserves credit for doin it in my opinion.
Mate, I used to be one of him I used to be national front and I used to support neo nazi groups I was fascist as in I believed in the principles of adolf hitler national socialism and mussolini fascism.
The lad is young_front from stormfront I used to chat with him when I was like that.
All that changed when I was approached by a black person who was patriotic and had simular views, Apart from on race obviously.
I can tell you that such views isolated me and made me feel despressed and that is why I am against them.
Im not against your average BNP support, I am against BNP hardliner, NF, yes Your stormfronter.
If you do not agree with the policies of the EDL and comrades stance against racism then this is not the place.

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Its funny how these radical muslim groups never get tagged with the racist/facist label. If the bnp want a meet it invariably gets banned, abu hamza and his cronies on the other hand are tolerated due to their right to free speech. Free speech denied the indigenous people, cant have it both ways. And lets not forget its not the bnp that flies aircraft into buildings and uses women and children as suicide bombers, seems the latter have more right to free speech in labours britain.

I agree, It is not fair and it is a good thing that this group has formed.
Edited by southwales, Feb 13 2010, 02:12 AM.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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Feb 13 2010, 02:05 AM
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Its funny how these radical muslim groups never get tagged with the racist/facist label. If the bnp want a meet it invariably gets banned, abu hamza and his cronies on the other hand are tolerated due to their right to free speech. Free speech denied the indigenous people, cant have it both ways. And lets not forget its not the bnp that flies aircraft into buildings and uses women and children as suicide bombers, seems the latter have more right to free speech in labours britain.
I totally dissagree, It is obviously that the silent minority has stopped being so quite.
People do not like muslim fundamentalism and sharia law, That is why so many people are marching EDL related or not.
A welsh march was banned and people arrested which had absolutely nothing to do with the WDL.
The reason why the goverment and the media does not condemn muslim extremism and violence is because they are too politically correct and it would damage there "multicultralism loving reputation" and there huge salaries and bonuses.
So you agree these radical islamic groups dont get tagged then? Through political correctness or not they are tolerated, remember the police running up a £50,000 bill for putting a protective ring around hamza when he was preaching his hatred, this to support free speech, free speech denied to anyone daring to show patriotic support. If political correctness is not to cause offence its certainly failed as the vast majority of indigenous population are constantly offended by this treacherous government.
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No mate, your using the word racist facist as a stick to attack his views just like the uaf would do. Just because you dont agree doesnt make him wrong. He had the bollocks to go on national tv and speak much truth. The country is a multicultural cesspit and he deserves credit for doin it in my opinion.
Agree. Multicultural Britain has pretty much fell on it's back.
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The biggest own goal in politics was the bnp not allowing black members, theres plenty of black members of the indigenous population with the same views as us, allowing these people would certainly have stopped racist slurs in their tracks, i know black people who have the same views as me and others on this forum, wonder if labour has cottened onto that.
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Feb 13 2010, 02:10 AM
So you agree these radical islamic groups dont get tagged then? Through political correctness or not they are tolerated, remember the police running up a £50,000 bill for putting a protective ring around hamza when he was preaching his hatred, this to support free speech, free speech denied to anyone daring to show patriotic support. If political correctness is not to cause offence its certainly failed as the vast majority of indigenous population are constantly offended by this treacherous government.
I believe that islam extremism groups should be smashed, I believe that furture mosque construction should be stopped.
I believe people not born here commit crime, Or try and work against the land and its people should be deported regardless of race and religion.
I believe multicultralism was a bad idea and evidentially dangerous..
However I believe that islam extremism is also waking people up partically the white working class.
They are not pretending they are peace loving, This needs to be exposed and people need to see this as a wake up call.

People who deny freedom of speech including that speech of nazi's and any other extremists deserve no speech themselfs.

People like kieren are a prime example of the goverments neglect partically in the white working class area.
If the goverment was not biased and politically correct then maybe hardline neo nazi's would not exist because they are only a reaction.
Edited by southwales, Feb 13 2010, 02:22 AM.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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How would I explain to my Black and Indian mates that Ive decided to vote BNP? I go to Goa every year for my jollies and the Indian peeps are great people. I'm off to Gambia a week on monday because the rushkies have discovered Goa and f**ked it up with their arrogance.


Gambia is a mussie country but I'll be wearing my help for heroes tshirt.
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Feb 13 2010, 02:16 AM
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Feb 13 2010, 02:10 AM
So you agree these radical islamic groups dont get tagged then? Through political correctness or not they are tolerated, remember the police running up a £50,000 bill for putting a protective ring around hamza when he was preaching his hatred, this to support free speech, free speech denied to anyone daring to show patriotic support. If political correctness is not to cause offence its certainly failed as the vast majority of indigenous population are constantly offended by this treacherous government.
I believe that islam extremism groups should be smashed, I believe that furture mosque construction should be stopped.
I believe people not born here commit crime, Or try and work against the land and its people should be deported regardless of race and religion.
I believe multicultralism was a bad idea and evidentially dangerous..
However I believe that islam extremism is also waking people up partically the white working class.
They are not pretending they are peace loving, This needs to be exposed and people need to see this as a wake up call.

People who deny freedom of speech including that speech of nazi's and any other extremists deserve no speech themselfs.
Yes i agree, the more the government pander to the radicals the quicker the population as a whole will wake up to the threat they carry. Looking back in history the british were always slow to react but when they did it was with some force, peoples tolerance is almost at breaking point somethings got to give. I actually believe even this government realise theyve created a monster.
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Yes i agree, the more the government pander to the radicals the quicker the population as a whole will wake up to the threat they carry. Looking back in history the british were always slow to react but when they did it was with some force, peoples tolerance is almost at breaking point somethings got to give. I actually believe even this government realise theyve created a monster.
The point is that some jews, sikths and hindu's are already sceptical of patriotism and(civic) nationalism because of far left lies.
Even when they have adopted British culture and traditions over there own.
Why can't we get them on our side rather than turning to the reds? After all islam extremism and sharia law takes there voice away.
Neo nazi's do not see that, They do not reconise that they are or can be patriotic and are a possitive input into this country and there input could be even better.
The boy is totally ignorant of that and thay is why I oppose his views even though, I understand why he is that way due to groups like the NF exploiting ignorance.
Edited by southwales, Feb 13 2010, 02:31 AM.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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No mate, your using the word racist facist as a stick to attack his views just like the uaf would do. Just because you dont agree doesnt make him wrong. He had the bollocks to go on national tv and speak much truth. The country is a multicultural cesspit and he deserves credit for doin it in my opinion.
Mate, I used to be one of him I used to be national front and I used to support neo nazi groups I was fascist as in I believed in the principles of adolf hitler national socialism and mussolini fascism.
The lad is young_front from stormfront I used to chat with him when I was like that.
All that changed when I was approached by a black person who was patriotic and had simular views, Apart from on race obviously.
I can tell you that such views isolated me and made me feel despressed and that is why I am against them.
Im not against your average BNP support, I am against BNP hardliner, NF, yes Your stormfronter.
If you do not agree with the policies of the EDL and comrades stance against racism then this is not the place.

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Its funny how these radical muslim groups never get tagged with the racist/facist label. If the bnp want a meet it invariably gets banned, abu hamza and his cronies on the other hand are tolerated due to their right to free speech. Free speech denied the indigenous people, cant have it both ways. And lets not forget its not the bnp that flies aircraft into buildings and uses women and children as suicide bombers, seems the latter have more right to free speech in labours britain.

I agree, It is not fair and it is a good thing that this group has formed.
Your entitled to your opinion just as he was. Thing is you call him a facist/racist because you were one yourself but met a black man who was patriotic so then changed your ways and saw the bliss off multiracial harmony in britain. If you once believed in the policies of nazism then that was your perogative i wouldnt judge you. This lad was a well spoken NATIONALIST with very real concerns and points. He didnt mention hitler or wanting to invade europe did he. And as for edl not being the place, dont be foolish enough to believe all edl are scared of the racist/facist tag to silence legitimate views they hold regarding multiculuralism islam etc.
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How would I explain to my Black and Indian mates that Ive decided to vote BNP? I go to Goa every year for my jollies and the Indian peeps are great people. I'm off to Gambia a week on monday because the rushkies have discovered Goa and f**ked it up with their arrogance.


Gambia is a mussie country but I'll be wearing my help for heroes tshirt.
A bnp vote dosent neccessarily mean a vote against your mates. I know bnp voters who have nothing against black people, i work with one whose wife is jamaican. His vote is to preserve our country,s culture, heritage, and history, to stop the destruction of our nationhood, to stop the loss of soveriegnty to the corrupt eu, sadly a vote for any of the main parties wouldnt resolve those issues, dont forget the left wing thinktanks and press along with groups like the uaf who have been funded by the major parties in part in the past are employed to spread fear about the bnp and discredit them. One thing the establishment despise is patriotism which to them equals racism. How would your mates explain to you supporting radicalism?
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The parties he support are extremely nazi in nature, The British movement posters for example show sympathy towards openly nazi violent groups as well as white supremacist flags and of course the National front.
The EDL or my group are not scared of fascist or tags because it is certainly not true.
Everysingle true member + leader + agrees with the points I have made.
That is why a seith member had great support when he spoke out against racism at stoke.
I also never did see the joys of multicultralism, However it made me understand that patriotism is not about race.
I think being British is an ideology, Far left commies are not British. Nor are pro IRA wesh republicans or people in power.
However I believe a Black or asian member of the EDL or other groups who is proud to be British and loyalist is more British than any traitor and that includes kieren.
Edited by southwales, Feb 13 2010, 02:43 AM.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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The point is that some jews, sikths and hindu's are already sceptical of patriotism and(civic) nationalism because of far left lies.
Even when they have adopted British culture and traditions over there own.
Why can't we get them on our side rather than turning to the reds? After all islam extremism and sharia law takes there voice away.
Neo nazi's do not see that, They do not reconise that they are or can be patriotic and are a possitive input into this country and there input could be even better.
The boy is totally ignorant of that and thay is why I oppose his views even though, I understand why he is that way due to groups like the NF exploiting ignorance.
You only have to look how labour treated the gurkhas, these people were told they have no right to settle in britain, they lost out on full pension entitlements, but whilst brown and his cronies were trying to block their resettlement saying they had no connection to britain labour was flooding us with all sorts of foreign criminals, what do labour hate about the gurkhas? Their patriotism and these people would certainly enhance our country as they are hardworking, diciplined, patriots. It suits labour best to follow divisive policies rather than have us as one.
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The point is that if there was enough evidence that the EDL were racist then they would be banned and leaders jailed due to "stiring up racial hatred".
Groups like the UAF are trying to get us banned so for god sake stop standing up for a racist and stop giving them ammo.
I respect your freedom of speech even though I totally dissagree with what you say. You have the right to believe what you want but unfortunately what freedom of speech we have is in danger of going for ever we don't live in the free country anymore.
Edited by southwales, Feb 13 2010, 02:54 AM.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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A lot of people see the edl in the same light as the bnp mate, the trouble that flares at demos hardly helps, like at bnp meets its always the so called anti facist mob that cause the bother same as at edl events no doubt. Last week on the local radio news it stated the far right english defence league have postponed a demo in bolton. Labour have certainly created a mindset that anyone daring to support britain is seen as racist.nazi/far right, whatever tag you fancy. Funny how theres no governmental negatives about far left though.
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n July 2009, almost a million voters chose the BNP in the EU elections. But it's not just traditional BNP voters swelling the ranks, with a recent survey finding one in 20 young people would vote BNP.

Against this backdrop, Peter Beard follows 19-year-old Kieren, who is considering joining the party.

Kieren is looking for a home in the BNP but is unsure that it represents his views. Having been a fervent nationalist from the age of 15, he is concerned that the BNP is losing its radical edge and selling out its racial policies.

His choice is made more difficult by the fact he comes from a moderate family who find many of his far-right views shocking. There is concern that the opinions and choices he is making at a young age could have serious consequences for his future.

This fascinating First Cut documentary offers an insight into a young person's attraction to a party whose policies and image continue to cause extreme controversy throughout the country.

If you'd like to share your views about the issues raised in this film, please leave a comment below. The commissioning editor of Young, Angry and White will be reading and responding to viewer feedback next week

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Has anybody seen this yet, I felt extremely sad watching this program.
I find it hard that people have such extreme racist views and the fact that young people are turning to the neo nazi side.
I hope that the young lad changes his views and see's the light which is racism and fascism is wrong and unhealthy physically and mentally and that you can still be a nationalist and patriot but without the hatred.
i think you will find my mate that alot of people on this site have the same veiws as the lad from that programme!
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Feb 13 2010, 02:17 AM
How would I explain to my Black and Indian mates that Ive decided to vote BNP? I go to Goa every year for my jollies and the Indian peeps are great people. I'm off to Gambia a week on monday because the rushkies have discovered Goa and f**ked it up with their arrogance.


Gambia is a mussie country but I'll be wearing my help for heroes tshirt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Nationalist_Party

if they can do it why cant you.
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Has anybody seen this yet, I felt extremely sad watching this program.
I find it hard that people have such extreme racist views and the fact that young people are turning to the neo nazi side.
I hope that the young lad changes his views and see's the light which is racism and fascism is wrong and unhealthy physically and mentally and that you can still be a nationalist and patriot but without the hatred.
i think you will find my mate that alot of people on this site have the same veiws as the lad from that programme!
what, you mean the objection to "race mixing"?
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what, you mean the objection to "race mixing"?
I think he means about the country going to the gutter etc.

It comes down to the question again though. How many people on here would let their daughter with a pakistani then let her go round his muslim friends. Bound to be a hero on here though.
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i see where the guy comes from, its sad how much this country has changed, in the last 10 years it is literally like muslims move into every area and build a mosque, its a f**king disgrace, also pisses me off when people call this boy a neo nazi, end of the day barnet where he is from isn't exactly an 'english' place anymore i wouldn't say, he's just pissed because the country is being taken over, because it is, i mean theres mosques everywhere, i didn't no until about a month ago theres a mosque 15 mins away from me, and i thought kent was free of that bulls**t, obviously not, also i have 3 moroccan families in my street now, my streets a culdisack with about 20 houses id say, id give it 5/10 years before its majority muslim at this rate, also theres a few turks around here now also, i had enough of that s**t living in stoke newington "little turkey' for 20odd years, place is changing at an alarming rate to say the least.
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and to be honest this boy isn't half as bad/extreme as some others out there, also id say about 80% of muslims in london are more extreme than this on a daily basis to non muslims yet he's the worse guy in country for being 'racist'. Whos country is this anyway? a young guy who puts pakistan instead of britain, a considers himself to be muslim and pakistani, instead of british, or a british boy proud of hes roots, and hates to see everything hes ancestors died for being taken away.
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i see where the guy comes from, its sad how much this country has changed, in the last 10 years it is literally like muslims move into every area and build a mosque, its a f**king disgrace, also pisses me off when people call this boy a neo nazi, end of the day barnet where he is from isn't exactly an 'english' place anymore i wouldn't say, he's just pissed because the country is being taken over, because it is, i mean theres mosques everywhere, i didn't no until about a month ago theres a mosque 15 mins away from me, and i thought kent was free of that bulls**t, obviously not, also i have 3 moroccan families in my street now, my streets a culdisack with about 20 houses id say, id give it 5/10 years before its majority muslim at this rate, also theres a few turks around here now also, i had enough of that s**t living in stoke newington "little turkey' for 20odd years, place is changing at an alarming rate to say the least.
Hear hear mate.

That's it, you get a situation like St Albans at the moment where there are apparently 50 muslim families, (so that means based on average birth rates of 4-5 kids per muzzie family about 325 people, as 50 x 6.5 (plus the 2 parents) = 325, so 325 muslims and they demand a mosque, and most mosques in the UK are for over 7 or 800 people and a lot over 1,000 worshippers, so why the f**k should they have a mosque for that amount of them, they just demand mosques to be built everywhere they are and this is why the UK is being ISLAMIFIED and any deluded lefty twat that can't admit it needs to f**king wake up and look at the facts, do some research and realise this huge problem we have. Every bloody area muslims move to outside of a city, they have loads of kids then demand a mosque, get it built and now the nice little village has a mosque. Then more kids come along and they get another mosque, then these areas end up like High Wycombe with 3 or 4 mosques then turn into blackburns with even more mosques and the area is now a muslim area, that's how it starts out and we are in the s**t at the moment.

f**k sake if muslims are so religious then why don't they have the effort to drive into North London or Watford from St Albans and go pray at a mosque there, why do they need their own bloody mosques everywhere, pisses me the hell off.
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Has anybody seen this yet, I felt extremely sad watching this program.
I find it hard that people have such extreme racist views and the fact that young people are turning to the neo nazi side.
I hope that the young lad changes his views and see's the light which is racism and fascism is wrong and unhealthy physically and mentally and that you can still be a nationalist and patriot but without the hatred.
i think you will find my mate that alot of people on this site have the same veiws as the lad from that programme!


worded that wrong hence edit.mate not many on here have the same opinion as that guy last night in my expierence of edl and meets.we are patriots,not supremacists.
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worded that wrong hence edit.mate not many on here have the same opinion as that guy last night in my expierence of edl and meets.we are patriots,not supremacists.
Why do you have to make it out he ment we was all agreeing with his Nazi views?

We agree with his views about the country, turned into a s**thole, and some of us like the BNP.
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I agree, it pisses me off 2. The lad is entitled to whatever views he wants to hold. The word racist or facist is no more than a boring attempt at guilt tripping just like what the uaf spout. Whats so wrong about being proud of being white and seeing the reality of this multicultural hellhole. Its not about hating people because they are'nt white its about seeing the manufactured destruction of a people.
Well said mate!
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If being proud to be white is racist then I stand accused and I will not apologise.
Why is it okay for black people to be proud to be Jamaican, Ugandan, Somalian?? Why is it okay for asians to rep for Pakistan, Bangladesh or India? Why is it okay for japanese people to be proud of their race??

This white, self loathing absolutely repulses me. What the hell do white europeans have to be so ashamed of?
Civilisation was built by white europeans, people of other ethnic backgrounds flock en masse to white europe to enjoy the benefits of this civilisation and then they turn around and tell us it's wrong to feel proud to be white.

f**k me, double standards or what.
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Why do you have to make it out he ment we was all agreeing with his Nazi views?

We agree with his views about the country, turned into a s**thole, and some of us like the BNP.
i did`nt mention nazi views.or imply.
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If being proud to be white is racist then I stand accused and I will not apologise.
Why is it okay for black people to be proud to be Jamaican, Ugandan, Somalian?? Why is it okay for asians to rep for Pakistan, Bangladesh or India? Why is it okay for japanese people to be proud of their race??

This white, self loathing absolutely repulses me. What the hell do white europeans have to be so ashamed of?
Civilisation was built by white europeans, people of other ethnic backgrounds flock en masse to white europe to enjoy the benefits of this civilisation and then they turn around and tell us it's wrong to feel proud to be white.

f**k me, double standards or what.
Couldn't agree more mate.
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Talking to a old school friend who is a Muslim and he says that at the Call Centre where he works all the other Muslims come up to him and ask where he is from and he tells him he is from Newcastle but they say what part of Pakistan are you from and says he is British and has never been to Pakistan like them.It's like some sort of roots culture.
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there has and remains a problem of anti-white rascism in inner city's, but i doubt anyone has ever done a list of statistics about the perpatrators of this reverse rascism. what i mean is, personally i doubt many Hindu's or sihk's are responsible for this { alas no proof }, but it would be interesting to find out where the majority of this hatred comes from, dare i say it that most probably comes from the muslim community ?

I am asking not giving an opinion !

can anyone get back regarding this ?


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Labour are the cause of this. They have admitted already and what I found so strange was that for one day there were a couple of articles about it. Yes Labour admitted to using mass immigration as a tool to change the demographics of Britain, to destroy the fabric of society and national identity at worst and at best a very bad case of gerrymandering even greater than Dame Porter in Westminster. Labour have and are using multiculturalism to further their destruction of the British state and identity. By definition Culture is what binds a large group together, if you have several cultures then there is no single binding force hence the divisions and no social cohesion. Multiculturalis no....multi-racial with a single culture, that's different. It was what America had for two centuries until the left-wing liberals started introducing multiculturalism there too. Yet before American's had a strong identity, national pride and patriotism too. You can see happening to America what has already happened here. It's all part of the move towards the socialist/communist one-government new world order.
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lol mate that was america that done that, 'you cant say proud to be white its racist'
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ENUFisENUF you are absolutely bang on mate, in the past i have wrote many posts regarding the subject of White guilt and how many people feel ashamed and uncomfortable etc etc when around non whites, it really annoys me too.
YES civilization as we all know was indeed forged by one specific race and not just in our own homelands but in far away lands too, America, Australia,NZ,South Africa.
Then theirs Western culture and the arts, Great explorers the lists are endless but in todays world unfortunately goes unrecognized due to the insanity of this doomed multiculturalism.
So regarding the documentary Young White and Angry what did that young lad say which was so wrong and offensive ?
Just because he wants to preserve whats left of his People, Culture and of course Country this automatically makes him a Nazi, Well if this is the case our forefathers that fought in two world wars must also have been Nazis because thats exactly what they fought and died so valiantly for.
For most of my adult life ive been branded either a racist or the ole fav a Nazi for my beliefs, ive also been accused of being a dinosaur for not accepting and having a negative attitude of change, CHANGE??? a change of our ethnicity a change of our very way of life,culture, heritage,history,Our country changed for ever and for the worst.
As long as ive got a breath in my body i will fight and never surrender to this catastrophic change.
That kid in my opinion has got more manners more determination and respect for himself and his people/country and balls than most people i know of.
He wants to do well in college and eventually in society but just because he wont allow himself to succumb to this so called change and like so many bend over and take it up the rear end hes always going to be the villain the outcast etc etc
That kid is the product of a treacherous government and a totally corrupt society.
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"Our ancestors took this land. They took it and made it and held it. We do not give up what our ancestors gave us. They came across the sea and they fought here, and they built here and they're buried here. This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!"

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Found this a long time ago .seems like a good threat to post it on ....


In Response to Re: Should Muslims be allowed to change 'The Boy Scouts Oath'? :This is great. I have been wondering about why Whites are racists, and no other race is.....Proud to be White Michael Richards makes his point............... Michael Richards better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point.This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points....Someone finally said it. How many are actually paying attention to this? There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans. You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whit$y,' 'Caveman'... and that's OK..But when I call you, Nigg$r, Kik£, Towel head, Sand-******, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist.You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you... so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET.... If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that??A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships.... You know we'd be racists.There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges', that would be a racist college.In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.I am proud... But you call me a racist.Why is it that only whites can be racists??There is nothing improper about this e-mail.. Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on. I sadly don't think many will. That's why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't stand up for ourselves!BE PROUD TO BE WHITE!
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That is one of the best things I have ever read. Truly amazing, he says it exactly like it is! I have got to give the person a lot of credit for that, well done to them.
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