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nelson 'bomber' mandella
Topic Started: Feb 12 2010, 12:44 PM (593 Views)
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mandela was defending his country.if anjems lot got in and we resisted like mamdela what would we be?

heros to our cause but terrorists to anjem.ira targetted civillians i remember brum bombs pretty well.murdering criminals.


Does Defending your country constitute murdering dozens of innocent people? No .

Its Like us walking into a Bradford school with Aks and shooting the lot of them, while claiming that we are defending our country. Its not right.
Its not British.
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That is the point I was trying to get at,the fact he killed innocent people. I can understand people killing those who are,or even those who are perceived to be oppressing, but not just indiscriminate murder. I can even understand the I.R.A. killing the soilders but never just planting bombs and blowing people up.
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Feb 12 2010, 01:06 PM
Charles; many of the charges bought against Mandella were either made up or exaggerated. Thou many are understandable if you were in his position. I dont know very much on Bobby Sands mate sorry.

Villa; I dont think it did work for Ghandi, if you look at the peaceful protest used by Martin Luther King Jr. in getting civil rights in USA, that never worked, it was only when threatened with the Nation of Islam under Malcolm X and the Black Panthers that the USA government buckled.

I know what you mean about Whites sucking his balls because hes blakc; that is racism in itself. I prefer Biko as well.
You love the word racist , all he's saying is why celebrate a terroists birtday, is it cause we feel guilty for oppresion and colinisation , we don't celebraye gerry adams do we ?
OPEN YOUR EYES
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Feb 13 2010, 09:13 PM
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mandela was defending his country.if anjems lot got in and we resisted like mamdela what would we be?

heros to our cause but terrorists to anjem.ira targetted civillians i remember brum bombs pretty well.murdering criminals.


Does Defending your country constitute murdering dozens of innocent people? No .

Its Like us walking into a Bradford school with Aks and shooting the lot of them, while claiming that we are defending our country. Its not right.
Its not British.
U could twist my arm thou
OPEN YOUR EYES
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You would have to be one very disturbed individual to kill kids no matter what colour they were or side they were on.
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fuknut
Feb 13 2010, 09:26 PM
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Feb 12 2010, 01:06 PM
Charles; many of the charges bought against Mandella were either made up or exaggerated. Thou many are understandable if you were in his position. I dont know very much on Bobby Sands mate sorry.

Villa; I dont think it did work for Ghandi, if you look at the peaceful protest used by Martin Luther King Jr. in getting civil rights in USA, that never worked, it was only when threatened with the Nation of Islam under Malcolm X and the Black Panthers that the USA government buckled.

I know what you mean about Whites sucking his balls because hes blakc; that is racism in itself. I prefer Biko as well.
You love the word racist , all he's saying is why celebrate a terroists birtday, is it cause we feel guilty for oppresion and colinisation , we don't celebraye gerry adams do we ?
I dont love the word racist at all; I was just agreeing with him that if we treat black people nicely purely because they were black then that is also racism.
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Feb 13 2010, 06:23 PM
mandela was defending his country.if anjems lot got in and we resisted like mamdela what would we be?

heros to our cause but terrorists to anjem.ira targetted civillians i remember brum bombs pretty well.murdering criminals.
Spot on.

The vast majority of his people were treated as literally sub-human. Far as I know he's since renounced violence anyway.





Totally different ballpark to the IRA.
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Ah mandela that darling of the left the hero ... the terrorist.
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Feb 18 2010, 10:27 PM
Ah mandela that darling of the left the hero ... the terrorist.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

It's not like he was blowing people up for not following his religion.

He was engaged in an armed struggle against what was one of the most suppressive reigemes about.

If a load of foreigners came over here and treated the people of this country as literally subhuman then would you just sit back and do nothing?
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A load of foreigners didn't move into South Africa as you put it. They've been their for generations building the farms, towns and cities. They supplied food to their neighbours when times were hard(which they don't do anymore) and the traditional people of SA, the zulus, were respected and given their own free state. Mass immigration, communism and the world business elite wanting SA natural wealth ( gold/ diamonds) for f**k all was why the ANC were eventually embraced. The ANC murdered huge amounts of zulus by burning or hacking them to death and still do! They also aligned themselves with other communistic groups from around the world such as the loveable commie IRA and ETA and so on.

I'm certainly not saying the system they had was right but I'm not ignorant either when it comes to terrorism(IRA/ANC/ETA/HAMAS etc).
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