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The way forward after Stoke ?
Topic Started: Jan 25 2010, 06:42 PM (531 Views)
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meaty
Jan 26 2010, 12:12 AM
Whats wrong with you? Read the email. All details of the counter demonstration were agreed in advance.

So when are you going to admit you're in the wrong? Or do you still think you have the right to violate the laws of this land?
Ok, so if those who didn't go vandalizing and shouted racist chants, if those who did that were removed from that group and that group marched peacefully, AND GOT EDL IN THE MEDIA, might I add again, would you see those in the same light?


Or why dont we all join a knitting club, sit and drink some apple tea while discussing politics at the local bingo hall should we? we peacefully protested in Manchester, Leeds, Nottingham, the media? a blackout. Stoke, although again i condemn those troublemakers (before you twist my words, troll) because we got to march, we got into the media, the message has to be spread and more are joining us.

Oh and violating the laws of the land? get real will you, why dont you get yourself down to MET about those law abiding coppers? Stoke police were better then the rest hats off, but there not stupid.

Chucking 1500 EDL into a boozer for 3 hours, then not allowing them too move, not provoked at all.
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MJ999
Jan 26 2010, 12:21 AM
RobBUAfb
Jan 26 2010, 12:16 AM
aclockworkorangeuk
Jan 26 2010, 12:15 AM
if the UAF come anywhere near our lads you can sit and watch if you like, me i will be standing with my brothers.
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s**t, that's me being a rough type again
Calm down mate, can`t be having any of your sort on here. ;)
Sorry old chap, have just stuck on a DVD of never ending story to calm myself down and get away from being a ruffian.

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RobBUAfb
Jan 26 2010, 12:25 AM
MJ999
Jan 26 2010, 12:21 AM
RobBUAfb
Jan 26 2010, 12:16 AM
aclockworkorangeuk
Jan 26 2010, 12:15 AM
if the UAF come anywhere near our lads you can sit and watch if you like, me i will be standing with my brothers.
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s**t, that's me being a rough type again
Calm down mate, can`t be having any of your sort on here. ;)
Sorry old chap, have just stuck on a DVD of never ending story to calm myself down and get away from being a ruffian.

:) :)
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meaty
Jan 26 2010, 12:17 AM
meaty
Jan 26 2010, 12:16 AM
tony j
Jan 26 2010, 12:10 AM
the edl wont ever get permission for a march that is why every demo is static
What do they say about assumptions? And whats the saying? No surrender? So we've surrended even applying for a march already! If you don't even apply for it then you can't complain. Ironic thing is since stoke it probably won't be allowed now
why do you think all edl demos have been static because apart from the liklyhood of getting a march is zero once you do get a march and trouble starts it will be easier for the goverment to proscribe the edl. it is nothing to do with surrendering if you run before you learn to walk you will falldown
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Ash16
Jan 26 2010, 12:23 AM
Chucking 1500 EDL into a boozer for 3 hours, then not allowing them too move, not provoked at all.
Once again its the edl leadership who are to blame for that, not the police. They set up the meeting point and applied for a static demo.

Most marches in London for instance are from hyde park to trafalgar square and thats the sort of thing the edl needs to do. But it has to be done legally, not spur of the moment. It seems we both want the same thing so lets stop bickering and troll accusations!
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A bit of better organisation could have helped, not having a dig as i am sure the organisers worked hard. It would cost buttons to have printed a load of leaflets stating where to be and when, speaches are are at 2.30 or whenever (nead to get better speakers!). The ones to the left causng mischief, maybe led by only 50 trouble makers, ended up in a mob mentality, if we could have commnicated to them maybe the small minority could have ended up on there own and took a look at themselves, doubtful i suppose as it seemed they were there on there own agenda and using the EDL as an excuse.

There must have been more than 1500 surely? I remember back in the day being in a school photo with 1400 people, no way near the numbers in Stoke imo.
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meaty's opinion is valid imo
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While there are a few people on this particular thread, I would just like to point something out. Obviously UAF are viewing this, maybe even commenting. Thats the difference you see. You get the chance to peddle your crap on here - we don`t just ban people who disagree. If someone goes on another site and says anything pro EDL - they are banned straight away. So, continue viewing/posting.......... but we know who you are. ;)
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meaty
Jan 25 2010, 11:50 PM
Ash16
Jan 25 2010, 11:46 PM
The EDL in the park, there was about 600, doing a march WE HAD EVERY RIGHT to do!
6 days notice to the police is required for a march, section 11 of the public order act 1986. You had no right. If you don't want to live by the rules of this country you should leave along with Anjem.
im sorry mate bbut you just compared a free living englishman/women to a muslim extremist who writes letters to the victims of Afghan?

bit harsh dont you think?
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RobBUAfb
Jan 25 2010, 11:53 PM
A lot of people who live in Stoke have Saturday was nothing compared to some of the big football days in Stoke over the last 10 years violence wise.

I'm not defending peoples actions but it's not as if the EDL started a revolution on Sat.
You are right in what you say ,we didn't start a revolution in stoke on Saturday,,it was started well before that in our emergence as one of the only groups that are standing up and being counted to expose the islamist extremists and there open policy of sharia in our country UKGB......they way forward is simple,,,,let's all move on from the stoke demo and all refocus our attentions on our enemy that is in our sights,,,I was oh so slightly fed up with some peoples action on Saturday,,,and when and if they are at future demos I will tell them to leave the. M and Ms well alone and get in line......uaf are rubbing there grubby hands at our distraction,,,let's twist the wooden steak a bit more and rid them alll.....I've got jaws on pause. And I need to relax a bit ...see you out there ..tj wdl...
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Jan 26 2010, 12:33 AM
RobBUAfb
Jan 25 2010, 11:53 PM
A lot of people who live in Stoke have Saturday was nothing compared to some of the big football days in Stoke over the last 10 years violence wise.

I'm not defending peoples actions but it's not as if the EDL started a revolution on Sat.
You are right in what you say ,we didn't start a revolution in stoke on Saturday,,it was started well before that in our emergence as one of the only groups that are standing up and being counted to expose the islamist extremists and there open policy of sharia in our country UKGB......they way forward is simple,,,,let's all move on from the stoke demo and all refocus our attentions on our enemy that is in our sights,,,I was oh so slightly fed up with some peoples action on Saturday,,,and when and if they are at future demos I will tell them to leave the. M and Ms well alone and get in line......uaf are rubbing there grubby hands at our distraction,,,let's twist the wooden steak a bit more and rid them alll.....I've got jaws on pause. And I need to relax a bit ...see you out there ..tj wdl...
Don`t want to ruin the end for you mate, but there is a Jaws 2 and a Jaws 3. ;)
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I think everyone has blown Stoke out of all proportion.Going on the posts on Saturday night you would have thought a poll tax syle riot had taken place.Yes,some bad things were done,especially the damage to people's cars,but in all it was just a bit of horse play that got out of hand.Far worse things happen every Saturday night up and down the UK so its best to keep it in perspective.
Edited by The Swine, Jan 26 2010, 12:40 AM.
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naff_123
Jan 26 2010, 12:32 AM
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Jan 25 2010, 11:50 PM
Ash16
Jan 25 2010, 11:46 PM
The EDL in the park, there was about 600, doing a march WE HAD EVERY RIGHT to do!
6 days notice to the police is required for a march, section 11 of the public order act 1986. You had no right. If you don't want to live by the rules of this country you should leave along with Anjem.
im sorry mate bbut you just compared a free living englishman/women to a muslim extremist who writes letters to the victims of Afghan?

bit harsh dont you think?
Agreed. Just referring really to the fact that when interviewed, a lot of edl people say if they (islamists) don't want to follow our laws ect they shouldn't be here. I fully support that, but we need to maintain the moral high ground.
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Jan 26 2010, 12:39 AM
I think everyone has blown Stoke out of all proportion.Going on the posts on Saturday night you would have thought a poll tax systle riot had taken place.Yes,some bad things were done,especially the damage to people's cars,but in all it was just a bit of horseplay that got out of hand.Far worse thingsh appen every Saturday night up and down the UK so its best to keep it in perspective.
Most common sense post of the night thank you mate!!

there is some hope!

there has been much worse indeed E.G Toxteth
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The point is that the EDL should never be the ones that instigate any violence. Our protests should be peaceful. But the UAF/Muzzies should be aware that you don't mess with the EDL. Some of the descriptions I read of the actions of some of the few who did get into trouble don't bear re-reading. Leaping on top of buses, attack police vehicles etc.

As much as I am wary of the police, they are there to keep the UAF safe. They don't deserve that kind of behaviour. So we should learn from this and apply it for the future. We need to prove, no work doubly hard to show that we are not a bunch of racsist thugs out for a bit of 'asian' bashing - to put it politely as I can.

We need to make sure that there is NO drinking before and during the demo's, although after is a different matter. A group of tanked up youths led by the c18/uaf infiltrators will do what there hormones and alcohol tell them. We need to make sure we are better than the opposition. Not just better but superior in every respect.

So, being positive, it was only a small minority, but unfortunately that small minority give us a bad name which we don't want.
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Some of my best mates are 'rough f**kers'..and I'm telling you now they are the salt of the earth. Best mates a bloke can have.If you need help they stand shoulder to shoulder with you...They take no s**t and shoot as straight as an arrow..Given the choice of my brothers or a gang of cardigan wearing knitting club members..? I know where my money lies..

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Jan 26 2010, 12:40 AM
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Jan 26 2010, 12:39 AM
I think everyone has blown Stoke out of all proportion.Going on the posts on Saturday night you would have thought a poll tax systle riot had taken place.Yes,some bad things were done,especially the damage to people's cars,but in all it was just a bit of horseplay that got out of hand.Far worse thingsh appen every Saturday night up and down the UK so its best to keep it in perspective.
Most common sense post of the night thank you mate!!

there is some hope!

there has been much worse indeed E.G Toxteth
This is my point as well, it was nothing major.

The worst thing was those little pricks smashing property, it still makes me feel crushed now as I heard the breaking of the glass.

Even the police have said the MAJORITY of EDLrs were fine, a minority needs to be kept under controll which is something that needs to be looked into. But as rough types we will not put up with the a minority of the batton happy police having their way, us rough types don't take to it I'm affraid.
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There has always been trouble makers at demos, it is the way of the world. In the old days of union strikes and marches
it was said that agitators were employed to cause trouble to turn the public against whoever was protesting.
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MJ999....jaws 2 and 3....and I thought it was safe to get back in the water....a bit like the demos ,,and then the fin pops up and one gets dragged under....but we've got brody on our side...
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Jan 26 2010, 01:02 AM
MJ999....jaws 2 and 3....and I thought it was safe to get back in the water....a bit like the demos ,,and then the fin pops up and one gets dragged under....but we've got brody on our side...
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NorthEastEDL
Jan 26 2010, 12:30 AM
meaty's opinion is valid imo
Can I just point out that when I said this I meant his opinion on us applying for marches. If we are allowed to march things would be better, we should apply for it and see what happens. Obviously any disagreement he had with other people about anything is a different subject entirely. Just wanted to clear that up, cheers.
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Guys can some one explain to me why was there 500 E.D.L. members marching though a park to get to a muslim populated area of stoke. did you know where you was going who was leading you like sheep to do there dirty work for them .What would of happen if the police was not there the e.d.l would of been finished

seems like Oldham
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