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Truth about stoke emerges.......
Topic Started: Jan 23 2010, 10:58 PM (710 Views)
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hi, this was my first demonstration, everything was fine at first but then you realise slowly but surely the space you started with starts to shrink?. there was loads of room for everybody then you realise the police are closing you in with vans and a line of officers and police moving in with riot gear on, so with things getting a bit feisty that was my signal to get out but they wouldn"t let me out?. so you have nowhere to go, Now i believe this was done deliberately to get a reaction from the supporters, and it worked, it may not work for them at first but the longer it goes on somebody will react. I bet that didn"t happen the other end of town?. anyway keep the good work up an i will be at the next demonstration
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On my fb page i have the undeniable 100% proof of some photos of a riot shield with blood all over it, that's what started the trouble. his mates were pissed off at the brutality and went mad. Fucking right i say. The photos say it all. (and the pigs number on his helmet too. That shield was smashed right in his mouth, not good.
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Jan 23 2010, 10:58 PM
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hi, this was my first demonstration, everything was fine at first but then you realise slowly but surely the space you started with starts to shrink?. there was loads of room for everybody then you realise the police are closing you in with vans and a line of officers and police moving in with riot gear on, so with things getting a bit feisty that was my signal to get out but they wouldn"t let me out?. so you have nowhere to go, Now i believe this was done deliberately to get a reaction from the supporters, and it worked, it may not work for them at first but the longer it goes on somebody will react. I bet that didn"t happen the other end of town?. anyway keep the good work up an i will be at the next demonstration
You could be right, when the muslims demonstrate the police back off. when the edl demonstrate the police block in knowing that people will panic and then the inevitable happens, PANIC AND WHAT CAN BE A RIOT STARTING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nqxP2bpF7I

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Jan 23 2010, 11:27 PM
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Jan 23 2010, 10:58 PM
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hi, this was my first demonstration, everything was fine at first but then you realise slowly but surely the space you started with starts to shrink?. there was loads of room for everybody then you realise the police are closing you in with vans and a line of officers and police moving in with riot gear on, so with things getting a bit feisty that was my signal to get out but they wouldn"t let me out?. so you have nowhere to go, Now i believe this was done deliberately to get a reaction from the supporters, and it worked, it may not work for them at first but the longer it goes on somebody will react. I bet that didn"t happen the other end of town?. anyway keep the good work up an i will be at the next demonstration
You could be right, when the muslims demonstrate the police back off. when the edl demonstrate the police block in knowing that people will panic and then the inevitable happens, PANIC AND WHAT CAN BE A RIOT STARTING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nqxP2bpF7I

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STATIC DEMO we have a right to static demo without informing the police.
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Jan 23 2010, 10:58 PM
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hi, this was my first demonstration, everything was fine at first but then you realise slowly but surely the space you started with starts to shrink?. there was loads of room for everybody then you realise the police are closing you in with vans and a line of officers and police moving in with riot gear on, so with things getting a bit feisty that was my signal to get out but they wouldn"t let me out?. so you have nowhere to go, Now i believe this was done deliberately to get a reaction from the supporters, and it worked, it may not work for them at first but the longer it goes on somebody will react. I bet that didn"t happen the other end of town?. anyway keep the good work up an i will be at the next demonstration
Interesting, i have been backing the police on here but if what you have posted is true then it is an example of exactly what i witnessed at the G20 protests last year in London (in the news, the police killed a man called Ian Tomlinson). I was there (yes, i am difficult to label politically). Shields are deadly weapons if used to attack with, i will await footage, though i suspect most of the hundreds of cameramen were seeking pictures to make us look bad so might not be so forthcoming.
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http://s780.photobucket.com/albums/yy89/HertfordshireEDL/

This is the copper that started it all by smashing a young lad in the mouth with his shield. He tried to hide his shield but i got him before and he wasn't happy!
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Jan 23 2010, 10:58 PM
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hi, this was my first demonstration, everything was fine at first but then you realise slowly but surely the space you started with starts to shrink?. there was loads of room for everybody then you realise the police are closing you in with vans and a line of officers and police moving in with riot gear on, so with things getting a bit feisty that was my signal to get out but they wouldn"t let me out?. so you have nowhere to go, Now i believe this was done deliberately to get a reaction from the supporters, and it worked, it may not work for them at first but the longer it goes on somebody will react. I bet that didn"t happen the other end of town?. anyway keep the good work up an i will be at the next demonstration
Also, your description is exactly that of the prescribed method of 'kettling' people. I was always able to get away today but the police do shift people along by that style, so i believe your take on it. Look up climate change london on youtube to see how they are allowed to do things.
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Reggie Kray
Jan 23 2010, 11:40 PM
http://s780.photobucket.com/albums/yy89/HertfordshireEDL/

This is the copper that started it all by smashing a young lad in the mouth with his shield. He tried to hide his shield but i got him before and he wasn't happy!
That was the second lot of trouble - the yellow vans are in the background. It kicked off before that at the opposite end near the white vans.
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Jan 23 2010, 11:40 PM
http://s780.photobucket.com/albums/yy89/HertfordshireEDL/

This is the copper that started it all by smashing a young lad in the mouth with his shield. He tried to hide his shield but i got him before and he wasn't happy!
Some on our should not be too quick to judge and denounce us until they know the full story ref reggie krays explanation mioght i add with evidance to back it up.Good work reggie.
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Wasn't at home, neither at Stoke, what's happened?
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Depends on who you ask. Some think it was a disaster, as seen by some of the very Upset reactions by certain people, others think it was a huge success.
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Massive turnout, was all going well, small groups had tagged along wanting a row with whoever they could row with. Thats my summary, overall it would of been a be a huge success if it wasn't the case that the press were dreaming of some violence.
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then why cant each division organise a static protest? say one a month?

reggie i PMd you regarding the pics you have, its worth a shot!....better to be act than react to a situation, id get them into the press asap! what you have seen was the possible catalyst to the days events at stoke!
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If this is true then there's no wonder the EDL lot kicked off to be honest.
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Just seen central news,"no black in the union jack"what a dinorsaur, prat! Talk about own goal, tell me he was a plant?
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Lol thats actually true, they were moving closer and closer to us slowly, I remember there being loads of room then suddenly being glued to those around me. Sneaky policey sneaky.
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i wasnt out side the pub when it kicked off but some of the lads i travelled with got caught up in it. 1 guy bent down to help someomne a copper had smaked round head with his truncheon then our lad got smaked over the head and needed taking to hospital in ambulance and 7 stiches. at that point the rest of his mates charged the police and weighed in, but then what the hell do you expect he was helping not fighting and then hes in an ambulance.
its true though the way we got contained into a shinking area is what caused the trouble to flair. what else could happen when you have a lot of passionate people including nf and football firms looking for a fight. if we had marched then the idiots wouldnt of had the opertunity they did to get the fights going.
then you look at this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nWzIOhLlCg some edl got to the park and tried to march and its not the edl starting this its a woman telling the police they will be sorry they stood by and did f*ck all when we are under sharia law. they batton charge the group and take her down. police wankers
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Jan 24 2010, 12:55 AM
Vids like this piss me off because when the Mudslimes riot the cops barely lift their batons. That guy in whites a legend though :D

f**king heart of a lion him, not budging an inch.
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Jan 24 2010, 12:19 AM
Just seen central news,"no black in the union jack"what a dinorsaur, prat! Talk about own goal, tell me he was a plant?
Without a doubt he wa a plant. I know his ilk and have met his doppleganger ( same s**t same person just cant prove it) many times before. FFl was full of em b4 it stared a selection process. Totaly absorbed by his own hate. A self supporting delusion of eugenics.
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Jan 24 2010, 01:32 AM
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Just seen central news,"no black in the union jack"what a dinorsaur, prat! Talk about own goal, tell me he was a plant?
Without a doubt he wa a plant. I know his ilk and have met his doppleganger ( same s**t same person just cant prove it) many times before. FFl was full of em b4 it stared a selection process. Totaly absorbed by his own hate. A self supporting delusion of eugenics.
already onto it also I spotted a skin in full gear being interviewd by a paper giving us bad name and also what i know is already being looked at by some members not saying owt on forum etc
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police miss treated us tday and gd turn owt and any crewe edl division on here add me on facebook
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Arsewipes.
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Jan 24 2010, 01:48 AM
Arsewipes.
who?
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Jan 24 2010, 12:59 AM
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Just the kind of video thats are gonna get Joe public on our side! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2 demos, both with kettling used and the result was ?

rewind back to manchester ... edl marched through the streets, no kettle ... no aggro ...

Kettling is aggressive, illegal and asking fro trouble. I am also seeing that innocent bystanders were forced into the kettle ...

Also... i repeat what i pointed out before, why do they not apply the SAME EQUAL treatment to the moslems that protested in that video, where you see the police just backing off ... or why do they not apply the same tatics to the UAF when they are kicking off ?

Questions need to be asked of the policing and complaints need to be made :_

1) why place everyone in pubs ?
2) why use cs gas
3) why use shields to smash people in the face
4) why indiscriminately use battons
5) why kettle when it is illegal
6) why bend over backwards to please the islamic extremist ? does this mean the police on on the side of the extremist ?

as for the nazi that think you can use the EDL as a tool for your own agenda, f**k off your not f**king welcome ...

now ... i want swift punishment .. the police officers committing offences should be bought to book, also the morons that loked at this as an opportunity to cause hassle should also be bought to book ...

The EDL is still every much in its infancy, it is accepted that when we have such large protest some dick is gonna do something stupid .. it happens at ANY demo .. theres always that moron with out the brains it has to be accepted as part of the parcel with regards to public demo's. The guys at the top have worked tirelessly to get this right, its not easy and i think they have done a remarkable job so far. The pricks that are using this for an opportunity to cause hassle .. think long and very f**king hard ... f**k this up and you will see the flag of islam over downing street .... do you want that ? .... are you a clostet facist islamic nazi ? .... no i didnt think so ... so wind ye neck in and get on board the train thats out to highlight the serious issues we face ... because if the EDL is gone .. who will be your voice ? .........
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Why do we continue to beat ourselves up in the post mortem after each demo.

The British Public are sick to the back teeth of Islamists we are on the verge of a change in government the economy is battered and will stay like that for next decade, the good days are over.

If the general public choose to vocalise their anger against the state of the country thru the EDL or other medium (i.e voting for the BNP or UKIP etc) is a choice for them but the British public are rightly pissed off at this govt and at what has happened to this country, their anger will only grow as the economic downturn gathers paces and people are made redundant or work reduced hours


Let's keep today's events in perspective, just because someone swears or doesn't smile at a camera shoot doesn't make it a PR disaster.

The EDL is not a hobby it's a movement brought about by public anger and fustration, the fustrations expressed are not unique to EDL members it's micrcosm of the wider society.
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Jan 23 2010, 10:58 PM
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hi, this was my first demonstration, everything was fine at first but then you realise slowly but surely the space you started with starts to shrink?. there was loads of room for everybody then you realise the police are closing you in with vans and a line of officers and police moving in with riot gear on, so with things getting a bit feisty that was my signal to get out but they wouldn"t let me out?. so you have nowhere to go, Now i believe this was done deliberately to get a reaction from the supporters, and it worked, it may not work for them at first but the longer it goes on somebody will react. I bet that didn"t happen the other end of town?. anyway keep the good work up an i will be at the next demonstration
why else do you think they locked 3000+ football lads in a pub for over 3 hrs before the demonstration??
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i am fuming right now btw! you two bob bit cunts, fucking arm chair wariers really fucking piss me off!!
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Jan 24 2010, 03:54 AM
Kettling is aggressive, illegal and asking fro trouble.
We had permission for a static march so what choice do the police have when hundreds are trying to push through their lines to march on the uaf and cause a riot?
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photos and videos of the demo, here : http://www.bivouac-id.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22228
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Jan 24 2010, 12:55 AM
i wasnt out side the pub when it kicked off but some of the lads i travelled with got caught up in it. 1 guy bent down to help someomne a copper had smaked round head with his truncheon then our lad got smaked over the head and needed taking to hospital in ambulance and 7 stiches.
I seen a young Stoke lad with a makeshift bandage on his head, he said he went to help one of the girls who was there who had been pushed over and got clubbed. He seemed a switched on cookie but was baying for police blood and said he'd lost all respect for the police after that. A very angry individual.


People have to remember we are dealing with a group of people who killed a man walking back from work at the G20 summit and then tried to cover it up, they're not all innocent men and women who go out helping old ladies across the road.

Most are jumped up f**kwits, I know a lot of power crazed egomaniacs from my time in the army who joined the police. Wankers.

Not all are bad obviously, however, the bad outweigh the good in my opinion. If you give people power over people, they will abuse it a lot of the time.

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Get over it.
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Jan 23 2010, 11:42 PM
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Jan 23 2010, 11:40 PM
http://s780.photobucket.com/albums/yy89/HertfordshireEDL/

This is the copper that started it all by smashing a young lad in the mouth with his shield. He tried to hide his shield but i got him before and he wasn't happy!
That was the second lot of trouble - the yellow vans are in the background. It kicked off before that at the opposite end near the white vans.
That was true the riot shields werent even out when the first lot started.... Police only started to close in because alot off ppl tried rushing them, then thats when they started getting the riot gear because people were robbing their helmets.......
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