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Topic Started: Jan 21 2010, 03:57 PM (628 Views)
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As some will know on here, I am not a member of the EDL but do support your cause to an extent, the extent that I fall out with the EDL on is the identity issue as you do seem to be confused or confusing on that issue.

Any way Tommy Robinson was to appear on BBC Asian Radio station today and I was also asked to come on as a guest... my intensions were to congratulate the EDL on their project but to also question the identity issue which a BBC Asian Radio Station rep was fine with and I would deem it a common sense issue for an organisation called the 'ENGLISH' Defence League when they invite non-English as members.

I got on and firstly raised the issue of the identity, to be cut off promptly after not being given a decent chance to debate properly with Tommy who by his own admission is of Irish parents (Not English) and Nihal the presenter who by his own admission is Half English/Half Asian (Not English but Half English)...
This was the BBC at its usual ignorant self, not able to handle my points concerning the English identity and ethnicity I feel especially when I pointed out that both were not ethnically English but have become anglicised.

Tommy promoted all things multi-ethnic/multi-religious/Multi-cultural.. all things Diverse, which was his only downfall amung other decent points he put across which I found agreeable.
The main point I wanted to put to Tommy on air was that he and others in the EDL are promoting Diversity/multi-ethnicity/multi-religion and multi-culture which is actually the root cause of what he and the EDL are oppossing!? i.e. the promotion of multi-culture/multi-ethnicity/Multi-religion and Diversity has bought Muslim extemists to England.
I also wanted to ask why are the EDL called 'English' if he created it and is Irish by ethnicity, and he welcomes multi-ethnic members? shouldn't the EDL be then called the Multi-Ethnic Defence League? or the 'British Defence League' at the least as being a Brit may as well mean human these days.

And I also wanted to put to Tommy...that if I was born in Dublin of English parents would this make me Irish?

I still do beleive that the EDL clearly need a name change as they are clearly not specifically English... though anglicised yes, and to give you an extreme example of how far the EDL liberal identity notion could go...what if thousands of Asians joined the EDL and so the majority membership would be Sati Chaggar, Abdull Gupta, Seeta Singh, Nish Babdul, Amir Khan, Anjem Chaudrey, Najita Mistry etc etc ... would that then sound like the 'ENGLISH' Defence League? would it look like the ENGLISH Defence League?

I will add the BBC Asian network program on here for you as soon as it is ready....unless some one else does it for for you...

I wish you well with oppossing Muslim extremists as I support you there but do not support you using the name 'English' when you are clearly not ran by the English or proffess to be English.







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For most of us there is no confusion

If you were born in England/Grew up in England then you have the right to be English



I know for a fact that white English people with non-English ancestry find it a lot easier to identify themselves as "English" whereas non-white English people with non-English ancestry tend to identify themselves as "British".


For me there is no identity crisis. Do you consider yourself English? Are you willing to stand up for the values of this country in the face of adversity?

If your answer to both of those questions is yes then you will be welcomed here with open arms by pretty much everyone.
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Jan 21 2010, 03:57 PM

I wish you well with oppossing Muslim extremists as I support you there but do not support you using the name 'English' when you are clearly not ran by the English or proffess to be English.
now I was born in a country not far away from england called germany my father was working there and took both my mother and my brother there when he went and I was born there now heres where it gets complicated I spent the first 1 year there then 2in cyprus then 1 in south africa before rreturning to england. So if Im not english then am I german or cypriot or south african no Im english pal tommy robinson is english mate
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Jan 21 2010, 04:06 PM
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Jan 21 2010, 03:57 PM

I wish you well with oppossing Muslim extremists as I support you there but do not support you using the name 'English' when you are clearly not ran by the English or proffess to be English.
now I was born in a country not far away from england called germany my father was working there and took both my mother and my brother there when he went and I was born there now heres where it gets complicated I spent the first 3 years there then 3 in cyprus then 2 in south africa before rreturning to england. So if Im not english then am I german or cypriot or south african no Im english pal tommy robinson is english mate
here here couldnt of said it better m8
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Ingy I'm interested to know what nationality you consider yourself to be as well as your ethnicity?
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Jan 21 2010, 04:14 PM
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Jan 21 2010, 04:06 PM
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Jan 21 2010, 03:57 PM

I wish you well with oppossing Muslim extremists as I support you there but do not support you using the name 'English' when you are clearly not ran by the English or proffess to be English.
now I was born in a country not far away from england called germany my father was working there and took both my mother and my brother there when he went and I was born there now heres where it gets complicated I spent the first 3 years there then 3 in cyprus then 2 in south africa before rreturning to england. So if Im not english then am I german or cypriot or south african no Im english pal tommy robinson is english mate
here here couldnt of said it better m8
to be honest mate I had a mate called henno who used post on here the son of a serbian immigrant and an english woman he left because someone questioned his ethnic origins because he quite rightly is proud of his origins and had a serb flag or summit on his avatar but heres the thing he is proud english ,proud british but that doesnt mean he is not proud of that side of his family he supports england at sports but he ended up falling out with somone who said he had no right to be here and wont come back......... sad really
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English Defence League

for defending england against radical islam ((charity begins at home))

anyone regardless of nationality can join ((coz they can))

ww2 wasnt americas war till japan woke them up to it ((sneaky barstards))

islam conquering europe wasn't our war till the dutch woke us up ((well done Geert))

identify my middle finger dick head, theres a war on




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Jan 21 2010, 05:10 PM
English Defence League

for defending england against radical islam ((charity begins at home))

anyone regardless of nationality can join ((coz they can))

ww2 wasnt americas war till japan woke them up to it ((sneaky barstards))

islam conquering europe wasn't our war till the dutch woke us up ((well done Geert))

identify my middle finger dick head, theres a war on




Agree 100% fella. Me old mans a f**king Argie and most me mums family are jocks. Do I clarify as English?????
End of day im born and bred in england. Proud to f**k of this great nation and will fight to stop extreme islam.
Being English in my un educated opinion aint about colour or creed but where your born and bred.

No f**king surrender.
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I got a mate whose mother and father are british born and bred but his grandfather was half irish so he thinks he is irish as well and Celtic (who are a Scottish team ?) is his 2nd fav team and Guinness is his favourite drink(bet he doesn't know that Stout is an english drink) yet he speaks soft geordie ahd doesn't know anything about the GAA(Gaelic Football and Hurling) and Munster Rugby.
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so theres your two sides to every story, its in the individual
question rudey have you asked your mate why he supports celtic
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1. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of England or its inhabitants, institutions, etc.

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3. the people of England collectively, esp. as distinguished from the Scots, Welsh, and Irish.
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Anyone who considers thereselves English regardless of where their parents/grand parents etc are from and are against Islaic extremism are welcome into the EDL,this aint about some master race s**t or whatever.
Everyone else regardless of where they decend from originally just want to get on in this country but the Islamists are looking to take over our country,thats our country,all of us white black indian or any other nationality joined together in unity.
We have always been a tolerant nation n invited others here for a better lifejust dont take the piss,but as we all know the jihadists have taken the piss with our good nature so a group like the EDL was inevitable.
A bit of diversity is good in my opinion but when a race/religion/creed etc want to collonise us then we must all stand together as England regardless of where we all may come from originally.
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Jan 21 2010, 04:03 PM
If you were born in England/Grew up in England then you have the right to be English

If I was born of English parents in Zululand would this make me a Zulu? Do you really think the Zulu people see me as a Zulu?
If I was born of English parents in Scotland would this make me Scottish? Do you really think the scottish people see me as Scottish?

How would my English ethnicity change?

I don't know about any English EDL members but I love and respect my English identity hugely and am not willing to give it away to any one and every one so easy?

If you class a West Indian as English for merely being born here... what about their ethnic origins culture, ancestry, history and roots? are you prepared to cleans them of it? Would you not class that as Hitler worthy racism? ethnic identity cleansing?

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Jan 21 2010, 06:57 PM
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Jan 21 2010, 04:03 PM
If you were born in England/Grew up in England then you have the right to be English

If I was born of English parents in Zululand would this make me a Zulu? Do you really think the Zulu people see me as a Zulu?
If I was born of English parents in Scotland would this make me Scottish? Do you really think the scottish people see me as Scottish?

How would my English ethnicity change?

I don't know about any English EDL members but I love and respect my English identity hugely and am not willing to give it away to any one and every one so easy?

If you class a West Indian as English for merely being born here... what about their ethnic origins culture, ancestry, history and roots? are you prepared to cleans them of it? Would you not class that as Hitler worthy racism? ethnic identity cleansing?

Why would anyone want to "cleanse them of their roots"?
Obviously they wld be proud of their roots but that dont mean theyre not also proud of being English aswell.
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Jan 21 2010, 04:06 PM

now I was born in a country not far away from england called germany my father was working there and took both my mother and my brother there when he went and I was born there now heres where it gets complicated I spent the first 3 years there then 3 in cyprus then 2 in south africa before rreturning to england. So if Im not english then am I german or cypriot or south african no Im english pal tommy robinson is english mate[/quote]Right lets break it down... Were your parents English?

If Tommy Robbinson who has Irish parents is English because he is born here then you should have no problem with me stating that I am a Zulu if born of English parents in Zululand then? which of course would be the most idiotic thing to state... but by all means give me your answer... remember all can see this and it is your inteligence reputation on the line.
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Jan 21 2010, 04:14 PM
Ingy I'm interested to know what nationality you consider yourself to be as well as your ethnicity?
My ethnicity is English and nationality English, although I have no time for national identities as they are a fasle interchangable identities - worthless... i.e. If I moved to Brazil tommorow I could call myself a Brazilian national, and then the next week I could move to America and call myself an American national and then a month later move to India and call myself an Indian national etc etc what nonsense isn't it really? and if you spoke to the peoples of the said countries and asled what identity do I have in their country, they would all call me an immigrant of their country, which is corect and fine.
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Ingy, don't start this pointless thread up again. If we want to argue over who is or who is not English, then we can go over to one of the 'ethnic' English sites - but this ain't the time and this ain't the place. Wait until the war is won, then argue to your hearts content - but get your priorities straight. In simple terms, if there ain't no England, there won't be no English, ethnic or not. Get your f*cking arse in gear and stand with anyone who wants to protect the England we all love. It's going to look pretty pathetic if 'your' group of ethnic English sit back and let those who aren't bothered, either way, do all the f*cking work!

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Jan 21 2010, 06:57 PM
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Jan 21 2010, 04:03 PM
If you were born in England/Grew up in England then you have the right to be English

If I was born of English parents in Zululand would this make me a Zulu? Do you really think the Zulu people see me as a Zulu?
If I was born of English parents in Scotland would this make me Scottish? Do you really think the scottish people see me as Scottish?

How would my English ethnicity change?

I don't know about any English EDL members but I love and respect my English identity hugely and am not willing to give it away to any one and every one so easy?

If you class a West Indian as English for merely being born here... what about their ethnic origins culture, ancestry, history and roots? are you prepared to cleans them of it? Would you not class that as Hitler worthy racism? ethnic identity cleansing?

Mate I see your point to some extreme. We can sit here all night and argue the fact. i got mates born in South Africe/Rhodesia of British descent and they are proud as f**k to be from Rhodesia and SA first, but also respect their British roots. Same as a Black man or Indian over here. Your British first and jamaican/Pakistanian second. This is my humble opinion and im sure everyone on here got their own.

End of the day, who gives a f**k. EDL/SDL or whatever faction is for people born in this country or even those who have intergrated into this country (as me dad has for the past 40 odd years) and wants to stand up for this country against the rise of extreme islam. f**k all the poncy clever s**t. It dont matter what colour, what religeon, what political allegiance. Thats it end of. Again in my humble opinion lol
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Well said Trig I tried saying the same thing but you put it better,lol.
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we are classed by every and their grannie of being the BNP, if we were to be the brittish defence leauge , we would never get of the ground, thats 1 reason we have defence leauges SDL,WDL,andUDL, we are seprate but will stand as 1 for what we beleave in, its based in england , hence the EDL, no surrender to militant muslims, sdl will see yous all at stoke.
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Jan 21 2010, 07:07 PM
anyone got a link?
Is this it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00q2qhp/Asian_Network_Reports_21_01_2010/
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Jan 21 2010, 04:19 PM
to be honest mate I had a mate called henno who used post on here the son of a serbian immigrant and an english woman he left because someone questioned his ethnic origins because he quite rightly is proud of his origins and had a serb flag or summit on his avatar but heres the thing he is proud english ,proud british but that doesnt mean he is not proud of that side of his family he supports england at sports but he ended up falling out with somone who said he had no right to be here and wont come back......... sad really


Firstly the person you mention would be simply - half English, he is of a duel identity - mixed race, thats fine, it is his unique identity I have nothing against his identity as I think identities are very important.
secondly he sounds lke he had become anglicised willingly which again is fine, but his ethnic is not English, he is not English, he has a unique duel identity that no-one should cleans from him and he should not want to cleans himself of his unique duel identity either as that would be sad and disturbing and he sounds like he acknowledged his unique duel identity on all sides.

The fact that he left due to some one merely questioning him on his ethnicty which every one has a right to, that is his choice, and I am not a bleeding heart liberal who feels any guilt for his situation etc why should I? I have concerns for the English community and England only, this is not by choice, it is my duty.
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We are called the English Defence League simply because this is England, and we are a defence league against extremists who wish to change the values of England. We're not going to call ourself the Multi-cultural defence league, because apart from sounding silly, one of Britain's values is multicuturalism. We are not going to be called the British Defence League either, as the EDL want nothing to do with the BNP.

One of the values of England is that anyone, regardless of religion, colour, country, can live here with out the fear of oppression from an Islamic Fascist government or Shari'ah Law. That is England. Land of hope and glory, mother of the free.

The amount of people that flee from the Middle East to get away from Islamic Extremism, in hopes of coming to England, where they can be free and prosper. Okay, some do sponge off the welfare state, but most come here to be free and make a good living and contribute to society. So when they hear the "English Defence League", it can sound as if it is England protecting their rights as freedom loving citizins.

As for us being agaisnt multiculturalism because it allows extremists, we're not, see above point. We just don't understand why an extremist can rant and rave on the street, call for mass murder, bombings, terrorist attacks, murder of homosexuals, oppress women, rape children, call for assassinations of the pope, denounce our monarchy, attack our government and get away with it. Yet, if we do anything like that it's wrong and we get arrested. Heck, people even get arrested for dropping a match stick these days.
I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%.
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English Defence League

for defending england against radical islam ((charity begins at home))

anyone regardless of nationality can join ((coz they can))

ww2 wasnt americas war till japan woke them up to it ((sneaky barstards))

islam conquering europe wasn't our war till the dutch woke us up ((well done Geert))

identify my middle finger dick head, theres a war on




Well how can I argue with that articulate answer :-) Oh dear.
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Jan 21 2010, 07:24 PM
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to be honest mate I had a mate called henno who used post on here the son of a serbian immigrant and an english woman he left because someone questioned his ethnic origins because he quite rightly is proud of his origins and had a serb flag or summit on his avatar but heres the thing he is proud english ,proud british but that doesnt mean he is not proud of that side of his family he supports england at sports but he ended up falling out with somone who said he had no right to be here and wont come back......... sad really
Firstly the person you mention would be simply - half English, he is of a duel identity - mixed race, thats fine, it is his unique identity I have nothing against his identity as I think identities are very important.
secondly he sounds lke he had become anglicised willingly which again is fine, but his ethnic is not English, he is not English, he has a unique duel identity that no-one should cleans from him and he should not want to cleans himself of his unique duel identity either as that would be sad and disturbing and he sounds like he acknowledged his unique duel identity on all sides.

The fact that he left due to some one merely questioning him on his ethnicty which every one has a right to, that is his choice,
I aint being funny mate. Your obviously a well read man unlike myself. What is the problem with someone claiming to be english even though their parents are of a different nationality. If thats the case, how many people in this country are 100% english. Well thats a big f**k off to the Royal family aint it.

Mate you can sit there and spout whatever clever s**t. My old mans an argie. I got a cousin in their tin pot airforce, So you telling me i aint f**king english???? What about a Black lad whos family are all immigrants from Jamaica whos just been fighting for this country as an englishman. Whats is he not english as well.

If im talking s**te than fair enough but this thread is f**king pointless and trivial as f**k. The more people from different backgrounds the better mate. again in my humble opinion.
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'''Being English in my un educated opinion'''' aint about colour or creed but where your born and bred.

Well what can I say.... I am dealing with an un-educated opinion... your words not mine :-)
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'''Being English in my un educated opinion'''' aint about colour or creed but where your born and bred.

Well what can I say.... I am dealing with an un-educated opinion... your words not mine :-)
No mate your just some tit.
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now now thingy no need to twist words he is making a point
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sorry lads im leaving this thread i can only see it going one way. im making my mind up on thing not confirmed yet ill leave that in his educated hands
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Agree 100% fella. Me old mans a f**king Argie and most me mums family are jocks. Do I clarify as English?????
[/quote]Well you have just told yourself and every one, you stated that you are basically half Argie - half Scottish, which is not English is it, but then surely I do not have to tell you that do I?

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I think the man thinks he some kind of clever c**t with his pointless and boring as f**k bollocks hes spouting.
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English

–adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of England or its inhabitants, institutions, etc.

–noun
3. the people of England collectively, esp. as distinguished from the Scots, Welsh, and Irish.
Like any community the English have no easily definable borders but in law the English are defined as what is known as a "racial group" by reason of their "national* origins", (a nation is not a geographical area of land, it is a group of people if you like - a large extended family) which means that they are members of a community whose members share a history, culture, ancestry and communal name, and are identified with a territory ie England.


There are legal definitions for what it takes to be part of any particular racial/ethnic group but in reality people do not need a legal definition to be told what they are because it is something that they instinctively know.

The Courts have set out the following test for membership of a racial group for purposes of the Race Relations Act –

a - you have a reasonable belief that you are a member of the group; and
B - other members of the group accept as a member.

It is possible to be a 100% member of an ethnic or nation racial group if one is not also a member of another similar racial group by virtue of the application of the tests at 'a' and 'B' above.


The English are also an ethnic group for ethnic monitoring purposes. The Office of National Statistics use the following definition for an ethnic group as set out by the House of Lords.

“An ethnic group has a distinct identity, based on recognizing a long shared history and having distinct cultural traditions, which may be related to one of the following chrematistics:

- Ancestry
- Geographical origin
- Nationality
- Country of birth
- Cultural traditions
- Religion
- Language
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Jan 21 2010, 07:37 PM
Agree 100% fella. Me old mans a f**king Argie and most me mums family are jocks. Do I clarify as English?????
Well you have just told yourself and every one, you stated that you are basically half Argie - half Scottish, which is not English is it, but then surely I do not have to tell you that do I?

[/quote]Well that might be the case my deluded friend. How many people are genuine english then????? about sweet f**k all mate.
Yep i might well be half argentinian with lots of mongrel mates, but unlike yourself whos has your head in books reading up on all this crap I have actually been doing s**t for this country that obviously I aint entitled to fight for.

I might be a half argie jock wannabe englishman. You my friend are a mug of the highest order.
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Jan 21 2010, 06:57 PM
I don't know about any English EDL members but I love and respect my English identity hugely and am not willing to give it away to any one and every one so easy?


It's not your identity to give away you arrogant bell-whiff. Do you think you have some claim on Englishness and the identity of the people of this country?

Who do you think you are?

Take your white supremacist crap elsewhere and go back to your hobby of w*nking off dogs with your arrse.
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Ingy you was on here ages ago n people got bored of you now your back n opinion hasnt changed n this thread is pointless,back to stormfront for you me thinks!
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Jan 21 2010, 07:41 PM
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Jan 21 2010, 07:37 PM
Agree 100% fella. Me old mans a f**king Argie and most me mums family are jocks. Do I clarify as English?????
Well you have just told yourself and every one, you stated that you are basically half Argie - half Scottish, which is not English is it, but then surely I do not have to tell you that do I?

Well that might be the case my deluded friend. How many people are genuine english then????? about sweet f**k all mate.
Yep i might well be half argentinian with lots of mongrel mates, but unlike yourself whos has your head in books reading up on all this crap I have actually been doing s**t for this country that obviously I aint entitled to fight for.

I might be a half argie jock wannabe englishman. You my friend are a mug of the highest order. [/quote]your mum is very lucky, she can join the SDL.
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Jan 21 2010, 07:46 PM
Ingy
Jan 21 2010, 06:57 PM
I don't know about any English EDL members but I love and respect my English identity hugely and am not willing to give it away to any one and every one so easy?


It's not your identity to give away you arrogant bell-whiff. Do you think you have some claim on Englishness and the identity of the people of this country?

Who do you think you are?

Take your white supremacist crap elsewhere and go back to your hobby of w*nking off dogs with your arrse.
lol, there is nothing quite like a bit 'community cohesion eh? :P
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Jan 21 2010, 06:56 PM
Anyone who considers thereselves English regardless of where their parents/grand parents etc are from and are against Islaic extremism are welcome into the EDL,this aint about some master race s**t or whatever.
Everyone else regardless of where they decend from originally just want to get on in this country but the Islamists are looking to take over our country,thats our country,all of us white black indian or any other nationality joined together in unity.
We have always been a tolerant nation n invited others here for a better lifejust dont take the piss,but as we all know the jihadists have taken the piss with our good nature so a group like the EDL was inevitable.
A bit of diversity is good in my opinion but when a race/religion/creed etc want to collonise us then we must all stand together as England regardless of where we all may come from originally.
That was a great promotion of a liberal, Diverse, multi-cultural, multi-ethnic multi religious country... and so you are promoting the root casue of what you are opposing as it is the promotion of a liberal, diverse, multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, mutli-religious country that bought Islamic extemists to you.

You have been brainwashed and bullied into being one of New Labours liberals...ignporiong the fact that we are not a tolerant country, mass immigration was froced upon us in the 1950's and it was met with large opposition - 'No Irish No Blacks No Dogs' were common signs on doors of various companies, does that sound like a tolerant nation? by the time of the 60's we had wide spread English public concern and Enoch Powell raised that concern in the British parliament, does that sound like a tolerant nation? and it started the liberalism machine into effect with him being shot down as a racist etc (Just like you get but you seem to support the liberal machine view too???) there was plenty of violence between immigrantrs and the English in the 60's does this sound like a tolerant nation? then we get to the 70's and the creation of nationalist parties begins with them oppossing immigration, the NF - does that sound like a tolerant nation? since the 70's to this present day there are quite a few nationalist parties all oppossing immigration - does that sound like a tolerant nation? and now we have 2 BNP Europeon parliament candidates elected and one Councillor in the London Assembly and UKIP have similar success both parties oppossing immigration - does that sound like a tolerant nation?

oh and a favourite of the EDL - the World Wars of course were we fended off invasions... does that sound like a tolerant nation to you? Why did we not invite the Germans to come and live wit us? after all they did ask us to join them before invading you know? Why did we say no? does that sound like a tolerant nation?

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Jan 21 2010, 07:56 PM
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Jan 21 2010, 07:41 PM
Ingy
Jan 21 2010, 07:37 PM
Agree 100% fella. Me old mans a f**king Argie and most me mums family are jocks. Do I clarify as English?????
Well you have just told yourself and every one, you stated that you are basically half Argie - half Scottish, which is not English is it, but then surely I do not have to tell you that do I?

Well that might be the case my deluded friend. How many people are genuine english then????? about sweet f**k all mate.
Yep i might well be half argentinian with lots of mongrel mates, but unlike yourself whos has your head in books reading up on all this crap I have actually been doing s**t for this country that obviously I aint entitled to fight for.

I might be a half argie jock wannabe englishman. You my friend are a mug of the highest order.
your mum is very lucky, she can join the SDL.[/quote]if thats the case i might join the argie defence league. I might get in the s**t a bit with me job though lol
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Jan 21 2010, 04:03 PM
For most of us there is no confusion

If you were born in England/Grew up in England then you have the right to be English



I know for a fact that white English people with non-English ancestry find it a lot easier to identify themselves as "English" whereas non-white English people with non-English ancestry tend to identify themselves as "British".


For me there is no identity crisis. Do you consider yourself English? Are you willing to stand up for the values of this country in the face of adversity?

If your answer to both of those questions is yes then you will be welcomed here with open arms by pretty much everyone.
If you have only 'grew up' in England then you are not English im afraid, as much as the political elite might say otherwise.
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trig mate your joining the forces so you can defend the country you was born in.

yet you get arrogant no body's like him saying your not English because of your parents .All
hes ever done is run a potty group in leichester no one has ever heard off.

come on mr proud English man what have you done to make the English nation proud of you
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A WAY OUT FOR YOU NAZI SCUM THATS INFILTRATED THE EDL
http://www.stormfront.org/
http://www.uaf.org.uk/
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Any English Asian, English African etc member on the forum?
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Jan 21 2010, 07:11 PM
Ingy, don't start this pointless thread up again. If we want to argue over who is or who is not English, then we can go over to one of the 'ethnic' English sites - but this ain't the time and this ain't the place. Wait until the war is won, then argue to your hearts content - but get your priorities straight. In simple terms, if there ain't no England, there won't be no English, ethnic or not. Get your f*cking arse in gear and stand with anyone who wants to protect the England we all love. It's going to look pretty pathetic if 'your' group of ethnic English sit back and let those who aren't bothered, either way, do all the f*cking work!

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I think that borders just divide people, and thus need to be abolished so we can live in an internationalist world, where people are free from being labled from a certain country or culture.
I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%.
Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit.
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Jan 21 2010, 08:29 PM
I think that borders just divide people, and thus need to be abolished so we can live in an internationalist world, where people are free from being labled from a certain country or culture.
:'( Have you been sniffing drugs? :D :D
Blistering Barnacles!
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I am an English Nationalist. Colour of skin and religion do not matter with regards NATIONAL identity. Along with the Irish,Scottish and Welsh WE are the TRUE BRITISH (a word and identity I have truly come to hate and detest over tha last 20 years). But I think Ingy has a good point about ethnicity.Multi-culture is the root cause of ALL the problems in OUR country and this multi-culture needs to be destroyed totally. I can understand people coming to this country retaining 'their' cultural identity for their lifetime but their children need to be 100% English. If immigrants are not willing to take on the identity of their adoptive country then they should loose the right to live there. Someone like Tommy Robinson is obviously English. My mate Sanjay (Hindu) has just returned from a year of travelling in China and he travelled as an Englishman. Born here,loves it and proud to be English. I can see your point Ingy but surely being English is a cultural thing. His parents are Indian but he is not,either in heart or soul. The only good thing about this multi-cultural hovel is that it is waking up a 300 year dormant nationalism in the English people which I sincerely hope ends up annihilating it. England for the English.
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.....we should live in an internationalist world where people are free from being labelled from a certain country or culture.!!!!?????.

What???. Am I reading this right?. Are you harriet harman?.
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