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Israel- Brutal Truths; Learn what really happened.
Topic Started: Jan 19 2010, 10:54 PM (253 Views)
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A must see for all those who need to educate up on the the greatest islamic/left wing/PC swindle of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piE8T3y7Bmc
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I feel sorry for the Israel people, the amount of s**t they have to put up with. Being surrounded by Arab nations whom they have been at war with in the past, must be proper scary for the nationals there.

Gaza is Israeli terrority, would the 'Palestine' people rather be booted out the country and left in Jordan or Egypt?
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Jan 19 2010, 11:04 PM
I feel sorry for the Israel people, the amount of s**t they have to put up with. Being surrounded by Arab nations whom they have been at war with in the past, must be proper scary for the nationals there.

Gaza is Israeli terrority, would the 'Palestine' people rather be booted out the country and left in Jordan or Egypt?
The whole of the Arab world is a venomous shytehole. The only thing that they all can agree on is blaming the jews for everything.

Thats why it's priority to make sure the palestine Arabs suffer as much as possible, so the Jews can be blamed (as usual) even though it was the Arab Armies who refugeed them in the first place.

What a sick joke.

'Palestine' - the country that never was - can go to hell.

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Which is why I've produced a Phase 2 map of my Israeli plans for expansion An instant improvement, but stay tuned for Phase 3:

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Jan 19 2010, 11:19 PM
Which is why I've produced a Phase 2 map of my Israeli plans for expansion An instant improvement, but stay tuned for Phase 3:

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Love it!

Yemen and Oman can take turns being car parks after Tarmac have finished.
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Phase 3 (bye-bye Turkey, yemem and Oman - now doesn't the world look a better place):
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Jan 20 2010, 12:40 AM
Phase 3 (bye-bye Turkey, yemem and Oman - now doesn't the world look a better place):
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Yes.

All you need to do know is leave say Morocco as the only Arab state left. All the Arabs can move there, replicating what happened to the jews in 1948.

Seeing as Israel would now have all the oil, nobody would give a s**t about them.
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Jan 19 2010, 11:19 PM
Which is why I've produced a Phase 2 map of my Israeli plans for expansion An instant improvement, but stay tuned for Phase 3:

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Thanks but no thanks, mate.
At least as far as I am concerned a democratic Israel with a solid Jewish majority in enough. No need to expand to my mind.
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Jan 20 2010, 02:00 AM
.............Thanks but no thanks, mate.
At least as far as I am concerned a democratic Israel with a solid Jewish majority in enough. No need to expand to my mind.
Yes, but by expanding Israel, the result is the annihalation of Mecca and the rest of the Islamic pits of this earth. I like my model for expansion. Phase 4 will be the Muslim areas of Africa ;)
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i tihk africa should go back to britain and france geert ;)
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Jan 20 2010, 02:42 PM
i tihk africa should go back to britain and france geert ;)
Arrgghhhh. No thanks mate - one Empire was enough for me! Why can't we all just get along! :D
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Jan 19 2010, 11:19 PM
Which is why I've produced a Phase 2 map of my Israeli plans for expansion An instant improvement, but stay tuned for Phase 3:

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Thanks but no thanks, mate.
At least as far as I am concerned a democratic Israel with a solid Jewish majority in enough. No need to expand to my mind.
Strategic depth.

Historical integrity.

Protection of population.

Self esteem.

...These are the irreplaceable values that Israel continues to lose by giving away it's land at a rate that's in direct proportion to the increase in attacks on her.

Your politics and ideologies are nice - they just are meant for another region. Like Scandinavia for example.
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so how are they giving away there land the crusades thought for that land more than the jews. we infact gave away our land over there as we have all over the world like india hong kong etc.
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Poor Jews.

The Muslims have fooled most of the west, and all the liberal tree hugging cocksuckers are hanging off their Muslim dicks.


"Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give
you victory over them, and He will heal the breasts of folk who are believers."

Qur'an 9:14

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you disgust me and you soil the name of the English. im out.
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forgive me here as im going to step out of your line of thought.
after the sencond world war jewish freedomfighters/terrorists attacked the british peacekeeping forces in palestine and faught to gain control of the country now known as isreal. this land has never actualy been jewish land in fact its historicaly been arabs land. forget the crusades we invaded arab territory caused many deaths on all sides and eventualy lost.
after isreal gained independence the arabs declared war to gain the land back for the palistinian people or other arab countries to rule. since then isreal has been fighting a dirty war. now isreals army act along the same lines as the wermach not ss i hasten to add.
its not their f*cking land and they have no sodding right to it.
its thanks to isreal and the usa that we now find ourselves in the situation that we are in. between the pair of them they have stoked the fires of religion and hatred to the west and have caused thousands to flock to the defence of palestine. now the usa and us invaded iraq and the arabs are all saying wow all we have learnt from imans and school is correct the zionist west hates islam so f*ck it we got nothing to lose lets go to war with them. if it wasnt for isreal then most muslims wouldnt have a grief with us as a people
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Never been Jewish land?????

You total idiot.

Even the Quran says it is.
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judea was an ancient tribal theifdom like many others that dissapeared at the end of the roman empire. it was the land of the tribe of isrealites and a client kingdom under the romans. since then it has not been a land of the jews. even as kewish land they where still subject to the arabs before the romans. and before moses had his vision who owned the land then?
so this land that might or might not have been jewish sovereignty lost that possible sovereignty well over 1000 years ago if not 1500 years. what bloody right do they have to claim it back. that would be like the spaniards that live in the iberian peninsular claiming england as its own. they came here several millenia ago and are the first known settelers of our country so sod it lets give it back to them then.
of course the koran says judea is the land of the jew as mohhamed took his religion from the bible and was probably a jew in the first place before he found the light. i dont belive in god so therefor i dont belive god gave this land to the jews. in exactly the same way as i dont belive that allah told mohhamed that it is fine to mollest small girls or subjugate people who just happen not to belive the same thing as you do.
uzi if you belive the crap that isreal has the right to do what it likes to the arabs that lived in that land for thousands of years then i think you are missguided by propaganda from the far right. they bleat on about the hollocuast and now demand the right to make sure it never happens again. i agree it should never be allowed to happen again but i dont think the way isreal treats the arabs is a good way of going about this. what would you do if your home land for over 1000 years was taken by force and you and your family thrown out of your house and put into a squalid camp of tent and made to beg to fead your family. i know for a fact i would take up arms against that country and try to regain my home land. and people seem to forget or not care that the japaneese killed so many chineese that what hitler did is small fry and childs play. but noone jumps on that bandwagon maybe because its on the other side of the world and didnt affecty us as a people.
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Jan 21 2010, 12:27 PM
judea was an ancient tribal theifdom like many others etc. etc. etc.
As I had a discussion with tony j, who raised strikingly similar arguments, I refer you to that discussion -
http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/2650871/2/#new
As for you mentioning Jews attacking British soldiers I will only comment that your attempt to drive a wedge between the EDL and its Jewish supporters by dragging both into dispute is beneath contempt. The goal is to join forces against Islamofascism and not to turn one against the other.
As for your comment "if it wasnt for isreal then most muslims wouldnt have a grief with us as a people" - either you are indeed a perfect example of how effective MSM brainwashing really is, or you are consciously trying to promote anti Israeli sentiments in this forum.
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I think I speak for all EDL, SDL, WDL and IDL members when I say, "LONG LIVE ISRAEL".

Palestinians are Jew hating terrorist scum, nothing more!
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it really is the heart of everything the excuses the reasons the sympathys. MAINLY EXCUSES for islamic domination o sorry integration
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my mention of jewish people fighting the british tropps was not to drive a wedge between the jewish and non jewish members of this board, i have no problems with jews as a religion or a people. my only problem with isreal is the way they have treated their neighbours over the years and how this has given the radical muslims a platform for recruitment and propaganda to the displaced arab people. right or wrong what happened 60 years ago happened and cant be reversed now. isreal is in a s**ty position being surrounded by people who want to see them totaly annihalated and they have been fighting a dirty s**ty war but the normal people are the loosers in this situation and those people are the ones that have flooded to the islamic cause. both sides im my own opinion have a claim to their argument.
if it wasnt for american involvement then these islamic twats wouldnt be able to have the ammunition against the greater satan (usa) and lesser satan (uk)
if i have upset patriotic jews here then i appologise i just dont like to see police and army baton charging women and kids and killing people with rubber bullets aimed at peoples heads as a way of crowd control. isreal claim to hold the high ground and by slightly altering the way they deal with things they could alter the balance of the recruits to the islamic cause, but maybe this is to late now islam has declared war on the entire western world
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raising issues over the murder of hundreds of british troops is stating historical fact. something british people should never forget ,no life lost by any of our armed forces should ever be forgotten if that offends anyone on this board tough s**t. to say that the trouble we in england are facing with muslims has nothing to do with american or isreals acions is very short sighted. i come from a highly muslim populated area like many others and have seen how the extremists have raised their ugly heads since the first gulf war. i am not naive enough to think this was not on the agenda many years prior but the acions of them two nations in the middle east have not helped the problem we are now facing but has only given the extremists the ammunition they need to preach and recruit for their jihad. my big concern on this continued discussion is we are in great britain not the middle east why so many praise isreal is beyond me or why so many in england have such concerns over it. france is 15 miles accross the water is a very highly populated muslim country and allows many illegal immigrants to sneak into our nation i would think more concern should be shown over that than a country that has continually acted as an agressor with its american allies
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Agamemnon you seriously need a basic history lesson. Just a few of the ludicrous claims you've made above:

"this land has never actualy been jewish land"

-the land was home to the Jewish kingdoms of Israel and Judah. These were destroyed by the Babylonians, but Jews were allowed to return and rebuild under the Persians. The Macedonian Greeks conquered the area from the Persians, and the Jews successfully rebelled against the successor king Antiochus IV, establishing the Hasmonean Kingdom. Even after the area was conquered by the Romans, it remained largely Jewish, and Jewish inhabitants have remained in Israel up to the present day, although others have settled and conquered many times over the centuries.


"even as jewish land they where still subject to the arabs before the romans"

-The Arabs did not expand beyond the borders of Arabia and conquer the land of Israel until after the rise of Islam in the 7th century AD, millennia after the Jews settled there.


"mohhamed took his religion from the bible and was probably a jew in the first place before he found the light"

-Mohammed was an Arabian pagan although he did have contact with Christians and Jews and heard some stories from them, which explains why there are many extremely confused and partial references to biblical stories in the Koran.

I've already corrected your misunderstanding of the Crusades on another thread.

Please go do some research before posting.

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im still waiting for freedom fry and his fellow posters to tell me why does this have any relevance to british people and why the continual pro isreal posts which is and has been an agressor along with the usa which in turn has given muslim extremists the ammunition to justify what they do in england. why not worry more about what is happening in the uk and highly muslim populated countrys 15 miles away than a country that behaves no better than its alledged enemy.
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Jan 21 2010, 04:55 PM
my only problem with isreal is the way they have treated their neighbours over the years
This part I agree with,

Considering the vile terror attacks thrust upon israeli citizens let alone several huge wars initiated by rabid Arab armies I'm suprized israel hasn't nuked the shyte out of them.
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haha so why didnt we goto war with isreal in the 40's when they cowardly murderd our troops. if you live in england uzi i suggest you move to isreal or start remembering our troops before making stupid posts for poor old isreal and the hard life they have with their american allies
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Jan 21 2010, 08:54 PM
im still waiting for freedom fry and his fellow posters to tell me why does this have any relevance to british people and why the continual pro isreal posts which is and has been an agressor along with the usa which in turn has given muslim extremists the ammunition to justify what they do in england. why not worry more about what is happening in the uk and highly muslim populated countrys 15 miles away than a country that behaves no better than its alledged enemy.
this is both a place to organise EDL things and a discussion forum for like-minded patriots. not everything in the second bit will be 100% immediately relevant to the EDL. in this thread we are talking about the anti-jihadist movement in a more global sense
the fight against the jihad in israel is a vital part of the fight against the worldwide jihad.
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Why do we keep having the same pointless debate . Has for the British troops killed todays terrorist are tomorrow freedom fighters
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A WAY OUT FOR YOU NAZI SCUM THATS INFILTRATED THE EDL
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no its not the fight in isreal is a fight over land that is not neccessarily theirs. this fight aided by the usa has feed the extremists in this country the ammunition they needed to recruit members for their alledged jihad. isreal will not help us if we fall they will not aid us in our fight we are non jews which the zionist have as much intreast in as they do in muslims we face a struggle in this land not in the middle east. this is not a platform to preach pro zionism this is a platform for english people to say we wont take no more s**t on our soil
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Jan 21 2010, 08:54 PM
im still waiting for freedom fry and his fellow posters to tell me why does this have any relevance to british people and why the continual pro isreal posts which is and has been an agressor along with the usa which in turn has given muslim extremists the ammunition to justify what they do in england. why not worry more about what is happening in the uk and highly muslim populated countrys 15 miles away than a country that behaves no better than its alledged enemy.
this is both a place to organise EDL things and a discussion forum for like-minded patriots. not everything in the second bit will be 100% immediately relevant to the EDL. in this thread we are talking about the anti-jihadist movement in a more global sense
the fight against the jihad in israel is a vital part of the fight against the worldwide jihad.
Agreed.

Israel is the litmus paper, the canary in the coal mine for the UK.
Since 7/7 we are all Israeli in some small terrified way.
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Jan 21 2010, 09:08 PM
no its not the fight in isreal is a fight over land that is not neccessarily theirs. this fight aided by the usa has feed the extremists in this country the ammunition they needed to recruit members for their alledged jihad. isreal will not help us if we fall they will not aid us in our fight we are non jews which the zionist have as much intreast in as they do in muslims we face a struggle in this land not in the middle east. this is not a platform to preach pro zionism this is a platform for english people to say we wont take no more s**t on our soil
You haven't seen the video have you?

And there may well be a reason for that.

Here, you can ignore it again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piE8T3y7Bmc
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oh ok isreal is the litmus paper and we yet again end up with the s**t end of the stick because of isreal/ usa problems but my question is what does isreal do for us?
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yeh watched it i think its amazing how any media machine can make anyone look like butter wouldnt melt in their mouths ,in the middle east both sides are to blame , but i do like the way they leave out current investigations into isreals behavior and also the fact isreal was built on german money and still receives millions in compensation every year from them it also liked to leave out what happened prior to 1948 and how jewish terrorist bombed and murderd indiscrimantly out there but i sposse by your reasoning thats ok ? i also like the way isreal and its zionist supporters brand anyone that questions them anti sematic even if your jewish you are labelled this for daring to question them then if this tag doesnt stop the question you get the remember the holocaust bit. its just a shame slavs etc dont use that as well considering more non jews were killed in concentration camps than jews something your video link didnt comment on either
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Jan 21 2010, 09:25 PM
yeh watched it i think its amazing how any media machine can make anyone look like butter wouldnt melt in their mouths ,in the middle east both sides are to blame , but i do like the way they leave out current investigations into isreals behavior and also the fact isreal was built on german money and still receives millions in compensation every year from them it also liked to leave out what happened prior to 1948 and how jewish terrorist bombed and murderd indiscrimantly out there but i sposse by your reasoning thats ok ? i also like the way isreal and its zionist supporters brand anyone that questions them anti sematic even if your jewish you are labelled this for daring to question them then if this tag doesnt stop the question you get the remember the holocaust bit. its just a shame slavs etc dont use that as well considering more non jews were killed in concentration camps than jews something your video link didnt comment on either
The video is 2 years old - the current witchhunt for Israel is only recent.

watch this about that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX6vyT8RzMo

Prior to 1948 I can drink you under a table.

Lets discuss the Arab riots of the 1920's led by Haj Amin el-Husseini - you ok with that?
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Jan 21 2010, 07:56 PM
raising issues over the murder of hundreds of british troops is stating historical fact....etc
Actually its more than that. Have you bothered mentioning british troops killed by Germans to the Germans in this forum? Have you bothered mantioning British troops killed by Frenchmen to the French in this forum? Don't give me this bulls**t about merely stating a historical fact. Your choice of historical comments is very selective indeed and is aimed only to cause dispute between EDL and its Israeli supporters. You can't stand the fact that EDL shows solidarity with Israel and therefore try to undermine this solidarity.
The solidarity expressed by the EDL is heart warming and personally I am very grateful for it. Trust me , however, that the end of the day Israel would have managed to survive even if that solidarity hadn't existed. Israel handled its enemies even when, in 1948, British officers trained and commanded the invading Jordanian army, the RAF supplied air cover for the invading Egyptian one and the US refused to sell Israel weapons. It will keep on handling its enemies effectively regardless of western solidarity for what its worth. Now we all have the same enemy -Islamofascism. It's your choice if you want to stand against Islamofascism alone or alongside Israel. If you choose the latter then best of luck to you. Bear in mind though that in two dacades your country and continent may fall into the hands of the Jihad like a ripe fruit because of brainwashed/ing people like you.
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