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English Democrats Party - Whats Your Views
Topic Started: Jan 14 2010, 03:05 AM (289 Views)
Bob England
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Seems like an interesting party and they have good policies on Immigration, English Identity, The EU and Political Correctness. Out of interest I asked them this question:

Can I ask you what your parties views are on the EDL? This is the reply I got:

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Should I listen to the media, the EDL are Fascist Bully Boys and are a Racist organisation. However, as my local media refuse to cover our activities and refer to us as 'Extremist' & 'Far Right-Wing' whilst referring to the BNP as merely 'Confrontational', I tend to take what they say with a bucket of salt. My local media takes that view simply because of the word 'English' in our title.

Seems it just not the EDL who are getting unfair media coverage!! :ermm:

Heres a link to their site: http://englishdemocrats.org.uk/
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We neither support nor oppose any one party over another, we are from all walks of life and our people vote for a wide range of political parties as is their right in a democratic country
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I've always liked the idea of Socialism, but without going to the extreme and becoming communist.

UAF have turned me away from socialism because every socialist seems to be some hippy.. ¬¬
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Jan 14 2010, 03:23 AM
I've always liked the idea of Socialism, but without going to the extreme and becoming communist.

UAF have turned me away from socialism because every socialist seems to be some hippy.. ¬¬
lol :)
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im not sure where socialismstops and communism starts but both worry me and i couldnt nor wouldnt vote for a socialist party
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I understand the lure of socialism, but in practice it is just infantile politics and the politics of dreamy la la land
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Jan 14 2010, 03:13 AM
We neither support nor oppose any one party over another, we are from all walks of life and our people vote for a wide range of political parties as is their right in a democratic country
And that point needs to be stressed over and over again because some posters seem to use this forum as a way to spread their propaganda and media lies about certain parties, trying to influence peoples vote here should be banned.
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socialism is oxbull it punishes the workers and awards the shirkers, i use the socailist goons that are in power now as an example!
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Jan 14 2010, 03:05 PM
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Jan 14 2010, 03:13 AM
We neither support nor oppose any one party over another, we are from all walks of life and our people vote for a wide range of political parties as is their right in a democratic country
And that point needs to be stressed over and over again because some posters seem to use this forum as a way to spread their propaganda and media lies about certain parties, trying to influence peoples vote here should be banned.
ha ha thats made me laugh

so people should be allowed to promote a certain party that dose the e.d.l image no good on a none political forum .
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Charlie, you have to turn this into something don't you. I think Stokie was talking from all sides. Waiting for your next leftist rant.
By the way back to the real thread the EDP have some refreshing views and the mayor of Doncaster is one guy who carried out what he promised to do if elected. Very rare in politics.
Edited by NorthEastEDL, Jan 14 2010, 03:51 PM.
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Dont worry about it mate, I think most of us know what Charlie is, just take no notice, he'll get bored.

And yes Charlie, the same goes for promoting any party, this forum shouldnt be used to fight an election campaign, it shouldn't be used to convert (BRAINWASH) good people into being pro or anti ANY political party, I for one only get more stubborn and more staunch BNP when I read your anti-BNP lefty remarks so it gets you no where, its counter productive and I'm sure the same is true for you when you read anyone pro-BNP posts. Its not needed and its harmfull to the EDL
Edited by NorthEastEDL, Jan 14 2010, 03:49 PM.
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i wonder who hes talking about getting banned uuum .
ive been told by other members that certain people has said i should be banned because im a troll
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Jan 14 2010, 03:41 PM
i wonder who hes talking about getting banned uuum .
ive been told by other members that certain people has said i should be banned because im a troll
People have accused you of being a troll Charlie ? ? ? ....Noooooooo surely not, I wonder why ;)
Edited by Casual Stokie, Jan 14 2010, 03:44 PM.
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not a troll but definetly a trolley!!!
Edited by NorthEastEDL, Jan 14 2010, 03:51 PM.
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charlie
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not a clue maybe because i dont support a certain political party.

im not saying anything about the e.d.l

and the ones that received the p.m said they dont think im a troll and stick by me
even thou we dont see eye to eye nice to have support dont you think
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Charlie is a nice guy and 100% EDL.

I am sure I disagree with him on some aspects of politics but we're not here to discuss aspects of politics, we're here in a common cause against the islamic fascists, and the fight against our enemy, Al Queda and sharia and the islamisation of our land. And on that he is behind us one and all every man all the way.
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true that is what im here for
A WAY OUT FOR YOU NAZI SCUM THATS INFILTRATED THE EDL
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http://www.islam4uk.com/
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Charlie's solid I can vouch for him as well, although his continuing support for the anti-English, anti-Christian Labour party does continue to puzzle me. I don't see any problem with EDL members discussing politics and trying to convince each other to vote for particular parties, as long as they keep it civil, confine it to the politics forum, and understand that the EDL as an organisation will never endorse a particular party.
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Jan 14 2010, 03:53 PM
Charlie is a nice guy and 100% EDL.

I am sure I disagree with him on some aspects of politics but we're not here to discuss aspects of politics, we're here in a common cause against the islamic fascists, and the fight against our enemy, Al Queda and sharia and the islamisation of our land. And on that he is behind us one and all every man all the way.
sorry but it has been Charlie pursuing certain people and in some cases provoking them into supporting their political views.
Nice guys so not hound or provoke nor draw recation from them. It is counter productive.
Most of us are 100% EDL and most of us will keep our political persussians to ourselves, but in equal measure will defend theirselves if attacked. No matter how 'nicely it's done'.
Having said all of that, anyone who genuinely supports the cause and respects all others is no enemy of mine. Even if they spout some weird crap!!
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Jan 14 2010, 03:52 PM
not a clue maybe because i dont support a certain political party.

im not saying anything about the e.d.l

and the ones that received the p.m said they dont think im a troll and stick by me
even thou we dont see eye to eye nice to have support dont you think
Its not weather you support a particular party or not, its the fact that you have to turn everything into a sarcy comment or you try and be-litle people who do support 'a particualar party', its like your main agenda here is to attack that 'particular party.

I am a member of that 'particular party' but I never mention them or bring them up, except for when you feel the need to slag them off with the same old media lies about nazi etc, then in turn I feel the need to set the record straight.

We could do this through P.M, but its like you want to cause an open row on a forum, its like you have got an agenda. I can except that people in the EDL vote for who ever they like including that 'particualr party', but when you try and influence people its wrong, this isnt the time and it certainly isnt the place, we are here for the EDL, not to fight and election campaign, I find your comments rather patronising and self rightous and smug but I can see past all that because you are here for the good of the EDL ( or so you say ) .

I dont care who you vote for, its not my job to change your mind, and the same goes for you. And you claim to of had people defending you via P.M, well I have had people, many people calling you a troll via P.M so its swings and round abouts mate.

If you dont start with your political agenda then no one will feel the need to correct you will they. Lets leave it now and stand together as the EDL, because that is the important thing
Edited by Casual Stokie, Jan 14 2010, 04:11 PM.
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well said. I agree. Onwards and upwards and onto Stoke we go!!
Not far for you eh Stokie!!!
Edited by NorthEastEDL, Jan 14 2010, 04:24 PM.
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I must say I am not a supporter of BNP (if that is the 'particular party'), but over the years I have watched open mouthed as I have seen them persecuted. I am all in favour of democracy so they should be heard as should the commies.

I hate the commies spouting off the shite of 'if you aren't fascist why don't you oppose the BNP?' (please read that in a whiny voice, ta)....I don't 'oppose' any party full stop in the sense that they mean, ie they should all be allowed to speak. I aint no fascist other than the commies (and no that is correct, if they act in a fascist manner by trying to quash all opposing thought that makes em fascist - it moves like a duck, looks like a duck, and sounsd like a duck, its a fucking duck).

The only party we should oppose (if any) would be the bloody labour party who got us into this mess in the first place....but we don't oppose any so it's not important.

See you all at the demo and Stoke, I might see you Saturday mate.
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Jan 14 2010, 04:23 PM
I must say I am not a supporter of BNP (if that is the 'particular party'), but over the years I have watched open mouthed as I have seen them persecuted. I am all in favour of democracy so they should be heard as should the commies.

I hate the commies spouting off the s**te of 'if you aren't fascist why don't you oppose the BNP?' (please read that in a whiny voice, ta)....I don't 'oppose' any party full stop in the sense that they mean, ie they should all be allowed to speak. I aint no fascist other than the commies (and no that is correct, if they act in a fascist manner by trying to quash all opposing thought that makes em fascist - it moves like a duck, looks like a duck, and sounsd like a duck, its a f**king duck).

The only party we should oppose (if any) would be the bloody labour party who got us into this mess in the first place....but we don't oppose any so it's not important.

See you all at the demo and Stoke, I might see you Saturday mate.
What makes you think that the 'particular party' was the BNP, I was talking about the Monster raving loony party :D :D
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Jan 14 2010, 04:20 PM
well said. I agree. Onwards and upwards and onto Stoke we go!!<br />Not far for you eh Stokie!!!
On me door step mate ;)
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the fact is some people may be bnp supporters or torys we may even get some people who vote for lib dems it dont matter who you vote for if we can just unite to take on the islamist menace
like all organizations we will have teething trouble and growing pains but while we may not agree on some issues we are 100% against extremist islam and sharia
Edited by Harold Godwinson, Jan 14 2010, 04:33 PM.
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Everyone on here is for the EDL so I cannot see anything wrong with discussing politics,especially in the Politics Forum. I thought that is why it is called the Politics Forum. Are people going to stop people or have a go at people for discussing Religion in the Religion forum?. Unless people are small minded enough to take things personally it should in no way affect anyone's allegiance to the EDL when discussing political views.
My opinion with regards the English Democrats is that they are the party I will be voting for in the election,I joined them a year ago. I am an English Nationalist and want an English parliament and this is the party to get it. I have nothing against the Irish,Scottish and Welsh but as far as I am concerned the britain we belonged to is dead and I would like to see England go it alone.
Some people on here have expressed a preference for the BNP. Personally the 'white skin' thing is not for me but I think it could be a case that the multi-culturists have created their own nemesis by calling people 'white british'. Strikes me as a bit daft in a country of 50,000,000 white people.
Only 37% of people voted at the last election and people in this country feel neglected by the lib,lab.con parties. It is an important subject and the smaller parties have a good chance of capitalising on the political apathy in the country. I think it is a topic worth dicussing.
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Jan 14 2010, 11:31 PM
Everyone on here is for the EDL so I cannot see anything wrong with discussing politics,especially in the Politics Forum. I thought that is why it is called the Politics Forum. Are people going to stop people or have a go at people for discussing Religion in the Religion forum?. Unless people are small minded enough to take things personally it should in no way affect anyone's allegiance to the EDL when discussing political views.
My opinion with regards the English Democrats is that they are the party I will be voting for in the election,I joined them a year ago. I am an English Nationalist and want an English parliament and this is the party to get it. I have nothing against the Irish,Scottish and Welsh but as far as I am concerned the britain we belonged to is dead and I would like to see England go it alone.
Some people on here have expressed a preference for the BNP. Personally the 'white skin' thing is not for me but I think it could be a case that the multi-culturists have created their own nemesis by calling people 'white british'. Strikes me as a bit daft in a country of 50,000,000 white people.
Only 37% of people voted at the last election and people in this country feel neglected by the lib,lab.con parties. It is an important subject and the smaller parties have a good chance of capitalising on the political apathy in the country. I think it is a topic worth dicussing.
agree the political forum should be open to discussion on politics!!
However I do not think it should be hijacked by anyone with an agenda as the EDL wish to be seen a neutral and not a right wing asscociation. I have my views as do others and I believe that we should all respect one anothers. It does also seem that some do try and provoke, and that often leads to people shedding their loads so to speak.
I also note that threads containing a political issue usually get turned into a right v middle issue and the thread gets lost.
The English democrats look a sane bunch but being a born loyalist still hope for Britain to go it together.
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Jan 14 2010, 03:23 AM
I've always liked the idea of Socialism, but without going to the extreme and becoming communist.

UAF have turned me away from socialism because every socialist seems to be some hippy.. ¬¬
Im socialist through an through an i dont give a f**k about trees :D

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No chance of any other party getting in for the next 4 elections unless labour or conservative.
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Boys ,boys , boys get a room lol
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There is no harm discussing politics and political views but the forum shouldn't be used to influence support for any particular party.

As the thread seems to have strayed a little I'll bring it back on topic. The OP was asking about the English Democrats as a party.

From my perspective they have shown themselves to be very popular in Yorkshire where they took over the running of a local council and made some quite dramatic changes which got the support of the local people. At a national level, they have the interests of the English at heart in terms of the democratic balance in the country. Devolution which was meant to destroy national unity and identity (along with the attempts to re-inforce this with changed demographics via immigration), has left a large democratic hole which the English Democrats want to redress. That is the Scots have a national assembly as do the Welsh and the Northern Irish, but the English have nothing but a further layer of beurocracy that is part and parcel of how the EU wants to break up the UK. The English Democrats want and are lobbying for and English parliament and that is their main platform. From what I've read they are not that overly interested in the break up of the union or its preservation.

Whether they will grow to become a political force remains to be seen. Remember no vote is ever wasted. Even if you vote for them as a protest against Labour because you don't fancy the other two main parties it'a vote that has been used and exercised.

Saying all that it's good to look at all the parties involved in the upcoming general election and see what their reactions are to questions about immigration, islamification, fiscal policy (Do we really need to spend 10 years of pain repaying a debt that was really incurred by the banks?) and so on and make your own mind up.

Me, I'm voting Monster Raving Loony Party! (or is that influencing people to vote for a particular party :D )
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