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Should drinking alcohol at demonstrations be banned?
Yes, let's get bladdered! 40 (57.1%)
no, I'm a tea total tree hugging muesli muncher 30 (42.9%)
Total Votes: 70
Alcohol at demonstrations ( yet another thread started by some twat that has never got off his arse and attended a demo!)
Topic Started: Jan 13 2010, 12:04 AM (1,000 Views)
Zcott
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Before every demonstration, the EDL meet up at a pub where members are able to buy alcohol. Should this be banned before and during demonstrations?

It's not a good image for us. We're often seen as a 'drinking club with a website'. Drinking alcohol makes you want to urinate more. So if we're Section 60'd and people are full of piss, they have to go in the corner. Then you get images of EDL members pissing up a castle. Not good image now is it.

Some of you might say "It's a free country, and I want to drink". That's fine, but, do it after the demonstration. Can't you skip on the alcohol for a few hours. What's more important? Drinking, or your country?

Should alcohol be banned at demonstrations?
I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%.
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I voted yes because we don't want drunks wrecking the demostration and causing trouble. Its also for safety reasons thru.

But after demostrations they can drink alcohol as a celebration.
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oh gould health and safety before the demonstration :-/
"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." George Orwell
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trippy
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You can have a pint or two if you can think clearly, being drunk won't help at all. Also got to be alerted when going home from the demos..
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i voted no, i think if people want to drink let them.
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meaty
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Good idea. Obvioulsy you can't ban it but just recommend that people are sober. It's true this pissed up meeting in a pub image is not good. Surely people can wait till the evening to drink
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I swear you've made this topic before, maybe its just me lol. I think people who know they can't handle more than 3 or 4 pints, should only have 1 or 2 before the demo. Try to drink when you get home, it would be better for EDL, but neither I, nor anyone else can stop you. Just make sure you don't get absolutely hammered.
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FreedomFry
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i'm fairly sure the vast majority of our membership can handle a pint or two. just dont get hammered.

edit: beer is gud beat me to it
Edited by FreedomFry, Jan 13 2010, 12:21 AM.
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Its up to the individual....if you can take your beer and got self control ..no problem ..if you can't take it and it changes your personality ,leave it alone ...landlord ...
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charlie
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Jan 13 2010, 12:20 AM
i'm fairly sure the vast majority of our membership can handle a pint or two. just dont get hammered.

edit: beer is gud beat me to it
mate dont make me laugh ive seen you after a couple.

so me the way to go home im,tied and i wont to go to bed.

had a drink about a hour ago and its gone straight to my head
:) :) :)
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Zcott
Jan 13 2010, 12:04 AM
What's more important? Drinking, or your country?
Cheeky twat, lecturing people on what they do at demos, when you don't even bother going to them!

It is not illegal to drink, it is illegal to be drunk. Those that are drinking are old enough and big boys. If you're old enough, and aint drunk or abusive, no problem.
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charlie
Jan 13 2010, 12:29 AM
FreedomFry
Jan 13 2010, 12:20 AM
i'm fairly sure the vast majority of our membership can handle a pint or two. just dont get hammered.

edit: beer is gud beat me to it
mate dont make me laugh ive seen you after a couple.

so me the way to go home im,tied and i wont to go to bed.

had a drink about a hour ago and its gone straight to my head
:) :) :)
Line your stomach before hand with a good old British fry up,and keep the local cafes happy. Hearts and Minds.
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Yeah, eat a good breakfast and take some food with you. Order a steak at a pub if theres time, will go down well with your pint, or ten, depending on how much you can handle.
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I voted for neither because I'm not tea total but I wouldnt want to get pissed at a demo either. For a start this talk of banning drinking at demos is pathetic, you cant 'ban' anyone from doing anything, people will drink if they want. Before a demo I'm wired and pumped up and ready for action, 4-5 pints is enough to calm me down and chill me out but not enough for me to act like a dick and kick off, Im ok on 4-5, I can feel the booze but Im still alert and prepared for battle ( if need be ), but I wouldnt want to be pissed at a demo incase it does kick off, I like to be capable and have a clear-ish head and be responisble for my own action. For me 4-5 maybe 6 is sound, its about knowing yourself, how you handle your beer and its about using your head.
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Jan 13 2010, 12:44 AM
Zcott
Jan 13 2010, 12:04 AM
What's more important? Drinking, or your country?
Cheeky twat, lecturing people on what they do at demos, when you don't even bother going to them!

It is not illegal to drink, it is illegal to be drunk. Those that are drinking are old enough and big boys. If you're old enough, and aint drunk or abusive, no problem.
I can't help it if I can't afford to travel. Sorry I can't manage to travel over 200mles to every demo. Sorry I can't drive. Sorry for suggesting something.
I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%.
Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit.
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Zcott
Jan 13 2010, 01:04 AM
NorthEastEDL
Jan 13 2010, 12:44 AM
Zcott
Jan 13 2010, 12:04 AM
What's more important? Drinking, or your country?
Cheeky twat, lecturing people on what they do at demos, when you don't even bother going to them!

It is not illegal to drink, it is illegal to be drunk. Those that are drinking are old enough and big boys. If you're old enough, and aint drunk or abusive, no problem.
I can't help it if I can't afford to travel. Sorry I can't manage to travel over 200mles to every demo. Sorry I can't drive. Sorry for suggesting something.
You got any mates you can car share with ? . Where theres a will theres a way brother ;)
Proud - DAM RIGHT I'M PROUD

Racist - NO

Do I give a f**k about the opinion of lefty commie UAF troll wankers - DO I f**k
Will I fight them till I die - ALL THE WAY

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Jan 13 2010, 01:06 AM
Zcott
Jan 13 2010, 01:04 AM
NorthEastEDL
Jan 13 2010, 12:44 AM
Zcott
Jan 13 2010, 12:04 AM
What's more important? Drinking, or your country?
Cheeky twat, lecturing people on what they do at demos, when you don't even bother going to them!

It is not illegal to drink, it is illegal to be drunk. Those that are drinking are old enough and big boys. If you're old enough, and aint drunk or abusive, no problem.
I can't help it if I can't afford to travel. Sorry I can't manage to travel over 200mles to every demo. Sorry I can't drive. Sorry for suggesting something.
You got any mates you can car share with ? . Where theres a will theres a way brother ;)
None of my friends can drive. I'm only 17.
I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%.
Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit.
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Not everyone can make it, that's not the issue, the point I was making was being holier than thou about lads that do manage to make it. you weren't at Notts, yet you blame us for having to piss on the castle. If you'd been there you'd know the police were pulling lads out of arranged toilets while they were still pissing and stopping others from getting in.

If you'd been there you'd know that the police started twatting us with batons and trying to stop us getting to the agreed demo point. People were angry at this harsh treatment, that was nothing to do with beer.

So your poll is somewhat taking the piss out of the good lads that were there, the massive majority did EDL proud, and those that peed had no choice whatsoever. Easy to say in hindsight that the police stopped us using toilets so you shouldnt drink so much, nobody knew the coppers were gonna stop us using them, not even the police.
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meaty
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Jan 13 2010, 01:16 AM
Easy to say in hindsight that the police stopped us using toilets so you shouldnt drink so much, nobody knew the coppers were gonna stop us using them, not even the police.
To be fair this topic applies to future demos. I think the point about pissing and the drunken image is a valid point. No one takes drunk people serioulsy. It's no good everyone moaning about the media image and them instantly jumping on someone when they suggest something to help improve it
Edited by meaty, Jan 13 2010, 01:25 AM.
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again did`nt vote as i think getting pissed don`t help,but i like a pint so i`ll never be tee total.
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who changed the answers in the poll, :D love it
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Zcott
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Jan 13 2010, 01:16 AM
Not everyone can make it, that's not the issue, the point I was making was being holier than thou about lads that do manage to make it. you weren't at Notts, yet you blame us for having to piss on the castle. If you'd been there you'd know the police were pulling lads out of arranged toilets while they were still pissing and stopping others from getting in.

If you'd been there you'd know that the police started twatting us with batons and trying to stop us getting to the agreed demo point. People were angry at this harsh treatment, that was nothing to do with beer.

So your poll is somewhat taking the piss out of the good lads that were there, the massive majority did EDL proud, and those that peed had no choice whatsoever. Easy to say in hindsight that the police stopped us using toilets so you shouldnt drink so much, nobody knew the coppers were gonna stop us using them, not even the police.
From what I remember reading, the arranged toilets were out of the area where the EDL were section 60'd.

I know the police didn't let the EDL get to the agree'd demo point and I know the police were being violent about it. The EDL only got frustrated, as would anyone. But I never mentioned alcohol and violence did I.

This poll is not a piss take out of anyone who went to the demonstrations, nothing like that whatsoever. It was just an opinion poll. I wasn't saying that the outcome of this poll should say whether alcohol should be banned at demonstrations.

The reason I made this thread, is because I have seen on some forums on the internet that there are people who agree with the EDL aims. These include members of ethnic minorities such as Jews. However, they were reluctant to join because of some image issues, let's face it, we do have a bad image atm, and alcohol was one of the issues said.

Personally, I don't mind if someone has a pint or two. What I put in my opening post was a view seen from someone not in the EDL might think. All I was trying to do is suggest an idea. So if you think I'm making this topic and poll to try and dictate what people can and can not do at demonstrations, you're wrong.
I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%.
Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit.
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meaty
Jan 13 2010, 01:24 AM
To be fair this topic applies to future demos. I think the point about pissing and the drunken image is a valid point. No one takes drunk people serioulsy. It's no good everyone moaning about the media image and them instantly jumping on someone when they suggest something to help improve it
You are right mate of course, this is about the fourth topic on this and I do get sick of people saying about the peeing on the castle issue.

I don't think there was a problem with drunkenness at Notts, though there were some prats there, but they were prats before they drank. The prats are more a problem than the drunks. As far as I know there was just one that had a beer issue and he wont be drinking at any more demos.
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im teetoatal but will have a couple at demo's, it isnt an issue for mast, like northeeast said it prats not drunks that are the issue.
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Zcott
Jan 13 2010, 01:31 AM
From what I remember reading, the arranged toilets were out of the area where the EDL were section 60'd.
No mate, the toilets were right in front of us. One of the lads that came down with us got pulled out cock in hand still pissing and thrown into the crowd I shit you not.

They did let women through though but the men had no choice but to use the wall or do it in the middle of the road in front of women. You saw the anger people had at the police treatment of us, that anger was not misplaced believe me.
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I didn't read about there being a toilet in the section 60 area. But though, those police actions are disgraceful. Can it not be reported to the IPCC?
I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%.
Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit.
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poll is rigged so didn't vote, a few pint before is ok imo.
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Jan 13 2010, 01:31 AM
The reason I made this thread, is because I have seen on some forums on the internet that there are people who agree with the EDL aims. These include members of ethnic minorities such as Jews. However, they were reluctant to join because of some image issues, let's face it, we do have a bad image atm, and alcohol was one of the issues said.

I've not voted on the poll as I don't think they have a lot of relevance but I certainly like to have a beer, especially if I've travelled some distance. But I'm one of those people who can consume copious amounts of beer and still remain coherent and even tempered. Now before someone jumps down my throat, I'm just expressing a view here and trying to give some advice. I've not been on a demo, I'm as much against Muslim expansionism as anyone and support the EDL viewpoint. But when I see the demos on TV/Youtube it does come across a bit like football hooligans/NF marches from the early '80s. If you want to attract more support/mainstream people then this is what needs to be worked on. Having a beer beforehand is the least of your worries, there are other things that could improve your profile far more easily.
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i voted yes because if a demo etc gets out of hand then we will just be classed as yabo's thigs etc and i don't think its a good image for the edl, thats just my opinion tho
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A pint or two is fine but if you go on demo f**k faced it's not on. Every member represents EVER member
Edited by Tommee, Jan 13 2010, 02:01 AM.
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Jan 13 2010, 01:58 AM
Yes lets get bladdered or yes to don't have a drink???<br />
Someone edited the poll options.
I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%.
Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit.
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lol not me before you start to think anything :D

I know who my moneys on...
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Jan 13 2010, 01:29 AM
who changed the answers in the poll, :D love it
Ermm :D come on lads, we're all grown up here (well, most of us :D) I've never seen anyone drunk at any of the demos so let's not blow this out of proportion and run away with it ok. Have a drink and be sensible, simples :D I for one, don't like to be patronised and told what and how much to drink and remember that nearly all of the lads have been travelling for hours to get to these demos, so i would say that intitles them to a drink or two yes?
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i used the toilets they had set up twice, no problems, didn't realise there was any trouble with them. still, i can't see why people got so worked up about folks pissing on a castle wall. what do you think the soldiers stationed there over the centuries have done? it's a fortification, not an art gallery ffs
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Nothing wrong with having a couple of pints before the demo and if I get to attend one, I'll be right there with you. It is however important to maintain in control of your emotions even as the UAF and the OB are taunting you and pushing your buttons, just trying to get a reaction; all the while the media are waiting to catch members of the EDL doing something that they can capitalize on. It only makes sense to moderate the drinking before the demo. Keep your whits, get to the demo, get safely home and then piss it up to your hearts content.
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charlie
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i feel the drink issue is a big one if you can handle a few pints fine .
but how much would you say is enough how do you measure is enough
if you drive over 2 pints can effect your judgement . has for the prats are pratts and drink has nothing too it.
drink has every thing to do with it drink can turn a rational man into a violent man or in some extreme cases a murder look at weekends in any city for evidence. the volitiel situation at a demo and drink dont mix
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i dont think the issue is how many pints we can all handle. for me 3 or 4 beers and you wouldnt even know ive touched a drop.
the point is our image to the rest of the uk. if middle britain reads about us in the press or watches tv they get told we are right wing extremists. we are labled in the same camp as bnp, nf and the rest of them, these people are stereotyped as alcoholic thugs. if they see us on the news knocking back pints then its possible they might think we are just another guise of the bnp
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I voted yes to ban, this is my "year with no beer" so wouldn't drink anyways.

My (being a nooB from the outside) view is that the EDL do come across as meeting in one pub and marching to the next one. Sort of the view you have of football hooligans, until that issue is dealt with it would do a lot of good to look more like Quakers than QPR.

As for the Police, if you drink (even one) then you will give them the excuse to use pubic order legislation and claim you were drunk.

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I think it is a good idea to stop drinking at the marches,a bit rich me saying this as I have yet to attend one,but it is a case of 'public image'. Wether people can hold their drink or not it does not look good in the biased and manipulated press. Like people point out,urinating is an act of nature but it is an opportunity for the press to print derogatory photographs of people.
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I voted it should be banned. The EDL have a job to do, theres a time and a place for everything. We already struggle WITH people seeing us in a good light so why give them ammo towards us?? its mediocre mentality to drink alchohol before a march. JMO

Afterwards get plastered it doesnt matter but on EDL buisness we need our full wits about us surely

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Our mosques are the good old fashioned British pub. It is a part of our culture, a part 'they' do not like.

There was only one single solitary person at Notts that had 'too many' and he has had a word in his ear about it. Each know their own limits.

If someone goes over the top and makes a twat of themselves they will end up barred from demos.

Currently, there is a lot of debate within the UK about drink etc, let me tell you this, I have over the years been in some very drunken states, and not once, I repeat not once, ever, have I been violent or abusive to anybody. It is not the drink that is the problem, it is the person doing the drinking.
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I voted no, simply on the getting bladdered part. Fine if people have a beer and can take it though. Could do without the one pint and take on the world brigade though.
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It should be banned.The EDL needs a code of discipline to show it is superior to the opposition.The EDL is here to do a job and needs an ultra professional approach.Save the drinking for football matches.
Edited by The Swine, Jan 13 2010, 01:18 PM.
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Have 1-4 pints depending on how much you can take, no point getting drunk at demos, you act like a twat and do things you'll regret the next day.
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If you want a drink but want a clear head etc get yourself on shandy, nobody gonna laugh at you on shandy. Thats what I drank last demo, but might be on orange juice this time as I might be driving (got to have a coin toss to see if I drive there or drive back yet).
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The uaf are just jealous as they dont let tramps in pubs !!
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Jan 13 2010, 05:03 PM
The uaf are just jealous as they dont let tramps in pubs !!
there just jealous they can only afford to drink white lightning and tennants super on a park bench.
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well we could all have bladder iregularities, like myself, if i have to pi55 i have to pi55. you keep me kettled in a back street with no facilities i'll have to pi55 on the floor as i dont have an indwelling catheter.
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I voted for the muesli munchers. I dont mind if people want to have a social drink before the demo but there are those who choose to drink from the moment they step out of their front doors.
At manchester I had a pissed twat spray up the back of my leg as he was taking a leak whilst marching. So no sympathy from me.
I,m sure if someone had got a photo of him it would have been splashed (literally) all over, and would have done us no favours at all.
I dont suggest a ban (who would enforce it anyhow), but a bit of moderation especially as you have to expect that you are going to be coralled by the filth at some stage. Personally I have a 2 pint bladder and after the seal is broken I need to piss regularly. Thats why you wont see me drinking before demo`s.
Afterwards however.........
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lol, i think you can have a drink, and not get drunk, lol anyway whos gonna ban us from having a drink?
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