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| Uzi 9mm | Nov 6 2009, 06:00 PM Post #1 |
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Much has been debated about moderate Muslims and what defines them enough to be considered as allies to the EDL. I found this 'test' that could be used as a filter. Violence: Do you condone or condemn the Palestinians, Chechens, and Kashmiris who give up their lives to kill enemy civilians? Will you condemn by name as terrorist groups such organizations as Abu Sayyaf, Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, Groupe Islamique Armée, Hamas, Harakat ul-Mujahidin, Hizbullah, Islamic Jihad, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, and al-Qaida? Modernity: Should Muslim women have equal rights with men (for example, in inheritance shares or court testimony)? Is jihad, meaning a form of warfare, acceptable in today's world? Do you accept the validity of other religions? Do Muslims have anything to learn from the West? Secularism: Should non-Muslims enjoy completely equal civil rights with Muslims? May Muslims convert to other religions? May Muslim women marry non-Muslim men? Do you accept the laws of a majority non-Muslim government and unreservedly pledge allegiance to that government? Should the state impose religious observance, such as banning food service during Ramadan? When Islamic customs conflict with secular laws (e.g., covering the face for drivers' license pictures), which should give way? Islamic pluralism: Are Sufis and Shi'ites fully legitimate Muslims? Do you see Muslims who disagree with you as having fallen into unbelief? Is takfir (condemning fellow Muslims with whom one has disagreements as unbelievers) an acceptable practice? Self-criticism: Do you accept the legitimacy of scholarly inquiry into the origins of Islam? Who was responsible for the 9/11 suicide hijackings? Defense against militant Islam: Do you accept enhanced security measures to fight militant Islam, even if this means extra scrutiny of yourself (for example, at airline security)? Do you agree that institutions accused of funding terrorism should be shut down, or do you see this a symptom of bias? Goals in the West: Do you accept that Western countries are majority-Christian and secular or do you seek to transform them into majority-Muslim countries ruled by Islamic law? Edited by Uzi 9mm, Nov 6 2009, 06:01 PM.
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“Nobody would give a damn for the Palestinians if the Jews were not involved” - Palestinian poet Mahmoud Darwish | |
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| AgeofEnlightenment | Nov 6 2009, 06:03 PM Post #2 |
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You forgot the Muslim Brotherhood. ![]() An excellent thread that cuts to the heart of the issue without having to debate scripture endlessly. |
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." Friedrich Nietzsche "All things must be examined, debated, investigated without exception and without regard for anyone's feelings." - Denis Diderot. "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin | |
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| Uzi 9mm | Nov 6 2009, 06:11 PM Post #3 |
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And the UAF I really hope that any Muslim posters can submit (no pun intended) their answers. |
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“Nobody would give a damn for the Palestinians if the Jews were not involved” - Palestinian poet Mahmoud Darwish | |
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| AgeofEnlightenment | Nov 6 2009, 06:25 PM Post #4 |
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UAF are mainly pseudo-socialist kids lol, but yes there are islamists in that group too. |
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." Friedrich Nietzsche "All things must be examined, debated, investigated without exception and without regard for anyone's feelings." - Denis Diderot. "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin | |
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| ukwakeup | Nov 6 2009, 07:32 PM Post #5 |
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Yeh great post, well done. I even learned something! Not about to gen up on Islam though, I already know I don't want it. |
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| Deleted User | Nov 6 2009, 07:54 PM Post #6 |
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That's a good idea. But if a radical mouslim sees himself as a jihadist, as a "soldier of Allah" in mission, he will lie to reach his goal. |
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