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new cold war? we didnt allow millions; of comunists to migrate here
Topic Started: Nov 5 2009, 08:26 PM (107 Views)
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after world war two, the powers of the west stood shoulder to shoulder against the threat that was communism. we did not allow millions of migrants from communist regimes into our borders, to abuse our welfare system. reproduce uncontrolably, spy on us, infiltrate our infrastructure and perpetuate their ideology. because we new what the outcome would be.

so why do we allow fundamental islam to do this?

why is it then that the western world cannot take this sort of stance agianst the threat that is islam, is it perhaps because they think that communism was the last great evil, that after it's demise that all would be well, that we would never have the same problems again.

well isn't it time that they realised we have another idealogical war on our hands. and this time the enemy is already within our society. this isn't a conventional war that can be won simply by fighting (afganistan, iraq). this is another cold war, to do nothing is criminal.

we need to close our borders, and open our eyes.

we need to take the same hardline stance that we did with communism, and say "you're not welcome in the west" we need to stare down fundamental islam and not flich at its threats, our government must have the same resolve as has had through the centuries and oppose anyone who would seek to take away our freedoms, rights, and fundamentally change our society.

the western world must unite and fight.
divided we fall.

edit - please feel free to correct me where you think i'm wrong. or where i need to be clearer.
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I think you're right.




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Wouldn't really say it's a cold war; the Soviet Union was a superstate capable of great desctrution, without even having nuclear weapons equated into this picture (see M.A.D).

This threat from islam will only be as great if they create another caliphate, which wont be happening anytime soon anyway since just like in the early days of islam; the dictators and islamic militants of the Middle-East have egos and wish to be the new crowned caliph. So the divide and conquer strategy is working against them, especially since we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan; two regimes of which could have happily opened the doors to such a global religious dictatorship.
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i agree with this leading post, but i think that this ideology is worst than communism.
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Then you agree, because I do agree that this aggressive islamism is far worse than communism.
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not a cold war like we had against the soviet union, but a stand off never the less. i agree radical islam is far worse than communism.
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Well folks, I think that islam will rule, with or without a caliphate, with or without wmd,s, the moslems have some that is lacking in the west and that is the determination to dominate
Edited by shiva, Nov 6 2009, 08:16 PM.
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I think that islam will rule


Nah, As Nations, The Islamic Countries are running on Oil and Tourism, once the Oil goes , thats 20-60% of revenue gone and without Oil (Or limited Oil) No Aero-Tourism= Economic Collapse/ slump. I Most of them cannot get Alternative Energy sources with pressure from First World countries ( Iran's Nuclear) and pressure from oil companies (BP,Shell) to slow the Switch.

But they could represent a Threat culturally with Mass Immigration.
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the difference with the cold war on immigration was the soviet blocks would not allow immigration from its lands . But I do agree the west did everything it could to stop the spread of communism .Look at vietnam and afghanistan . That's one of the reasons they backed isreal so much to help stop the spread of Communism in the middle east Syria
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I agree with Charlie regarding communist countries such as the former Soviet Union not allowing their oppressed people to seek refuge in other countries, you only have to use the Berlin wall as an example and the thousands that were murdered in no mans land by the Red scourge .
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Then you agree, because I do agree that this aggressive islamism is far worse than communism.
I do not disagree with you and certainly know where your are coming from comparing aggressive Islamic ideals with Communism both are equally as foul but unlike Islam as yet Communism is responsible for the deaths of countless millions of people, many many more than perished at the hands of the Nazis.
Ill never forget what a Pole said regarding the invasion of his country by Germany then Russia during ww2, he said yes the Nazis were terribly cruel and they took away our freedom but the Communists did this also, and our souls too.
"Our ancestors took this land. They took it and made it and held it. We do not give up what our ancestors gave us. They came across the sea and they fought here, and they built here and they're buried here. This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!"

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communism was a great threat,since subsided,now the threat is radical islam,it must be stopped and people must recognise this.the problem is to many ignore it
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