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| Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration | |
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| Billposter | Nov 4 2009, 04:23 AM Post #1 |
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Minister admits: we got it wrong on immigration http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6900299.ece Richard Ford, Home Correspondent November 3, 2009 ![]() Illegal immigrants about to board a train near Calais Illegal immigrants about to board a train near Calais: Alan Johnson is the first Home Secretary to admit Labour had made mistakes on immigration The Home Secretary admitted yesterday that the Government had made mistakes in its handling of immigration and had overreacted to the 7/7 bombings in London. In his first speech on the subject, Alan Johnson said that ministers had ignored immigration problems and the growing pressure on jobs and services in parts of Britain. Some communities had legitimate concerns because they had been particularly affected. Mr Johnson did not directly address the rise of the British National Party, but his comments came 12 days after its leader Nick Griffin made his landmark appearance on Question Time thanks to the party’s success in the European elections. Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary, struggled to defend the Government’s record on immigration during the television debate. Mr Johnson is the first Labour Home Secretary to admit mistakes on immigration. He said his predecessors had not addressed problems that led to huge backlogs of asylum seekers and foreign national prisoners. It emerged in 2006 that there were up to 450,000 “legacy cases” that officials are now working through. Related Links
In his speech to the Royal Society for the Arts, Mr Johnson said: “There are communities which have been disproportionately affected by immigration, where people have legitimate concerns about the strain that the growth in the local population has placed on jobs and services.” Labour had been “maladroit” in its handling of the issue but ending immigration altogether was “no sensible argument”. The Home Secretary also conceded that some counter-terror proposals made after the July 7 attacks had gone too far. “That probably was an understandable feeling — that we should be more draconian. But perhaps that wasn’t the right way to go,” he said. The Prime Minister’s spokesman said that Mr Brown had not reviewed the comments in detail or in the context that they were made. Chris Grayling, the Shadow Home Secretary, said: “What we need is a tightly controlled system with much lower levels of immigration and an annual cap on the number of people who come to live and work here.” |
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| AgeofEnlightenment | Nov 4 2009, 04:25 AM Post #2 |
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It's about time labour admitted some of it's mistakes. |
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." Friedrich Nietzsche "All things must be examined, debated, investigated without exception and without regard for anyone's feelings." - Denis Diderot. "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin | |
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| bk4theuk | Nov 4 2009, 04:29 AM Post #3 |
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We all knew it but it took them this long to realize how bad the immigration has become in the uk. "Labour had been “maladroit” in its handling of the issue but ending immigration altogether was “no sensible argument”." Looks like even now they realize we have a problem it's still set to continue! |
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| AgeofEnlightenment | Nov 4 2009, 04:59 AM Post #4 |
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I have mixed views about the idea of closing borders for immigration. My main argument is that currently I live in Australia, a continent/island nearly the size of the USA, but with less than a tenth of it's population (over 20 million), most of which live on the east coast between Adelaide and Brisbane. England is a country less than a sixth of the size of Australia, yet has 3 times the population already. This is clearly a problem, and to me the idea of illegal immigration isn't even worth arguing; it has to be stopped immediately, and illegals need to be deported. On the other hand, I don't think immigration should be stopped completely; I think people of all backgrounds who value democracy/freedoms, who are hard working and friendly are the kinds of people that should be integrated. What are peoples thoughts on this? |
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." Friedrich Nietzsche "All things must be examined, debated, investigated without exception and without regard for anyone's feelings." - Denis Diderot. "People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin | |
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| Billposter | Nov 4 2009, 02:33 PM Post #5 |
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The ONLY REASON they are admitting to this is the cynical realisation that everyone and his dog knows that the cat is out of the bag on this one. They have to sound like they might even do somthing about it. Until the BNP successes they couldnt have cared less but now they have cottoned on to the fact if they dont at least sound like they give a damn then that situation will worsen. This is a cynical move by a rattled government who dont give a fig about immigration our economy or employment of our people our troops starved of funds and getting killed because of that (Sadly another 5 today) the incresing power of the politically correct nazis islaist extremists or giving billions of our taxes to their banker pals to bail them out whilst leaving pensioners in penyary to pay for it or anything else as long as they vote themselves bigger pensions and wages at our expense and con us into voting them back into power even Cameron is reneggigng on cast iron promises. Edited by Billposter, Nov 4 2009, 02:41 PM.
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| rockofalbion | Nov 4 2009, 03:04 PM Post #6 |
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I'll echo the sentiments in this fine post. I understood what they said, as:- "We know we made a right pig's arse of it, but, as you can all expect from us by now, we will do absolutely piss-all about it anyway. Oh, and by the way, the Pope wears a pointy hat." What do they want? A sweetie? |
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| bk4theuk | Nov 4 2009, 03:33 PM Post #7 |
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I have no problem with immigration as long as there are sufficient resources in the country where the immigrants wish to go. You can safely say the uk is well over populated unlike Australia. If I kept to many animals, without being able to provide them with adequate living space or correct veterinary care due to lack of funds and their different temperaments caused lots of fights to break out I can guarantee you the RSPCA would get involved to remove some if not all of the animals. Yet as human beings go, there is no one at present willing to do anything about immigration and our resources are very, very dire here in the UK. I personally feel here in the UK immigration needs to stop now, you can only fit so many people in one boat before it sinks! |
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