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David Cameron refuses EU referendum; Lying git!
Topic Started: Nov 3 2009, 09:08 PM (267 Views)
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I've just heard on the news that David Cameron has backtracked on his promise to hold a referendum on the Lisbon treaty.
Earlier today the czech president formally agreed to back the treaty, ending any hope of european nations maintaining their current level of independence.
David Cameron has shown us all that we cannot trust ANY section of the political elite and it demonstrates quite clearly that we are in cloud cuckoo land if we think we can hold them on their word.
I knew this would happen, he made a promise knowing it would draw votes but seems to have realised that Labour now have no chance of winning the next election and so, promises are out of the window.
I am sick to death of the twice beaten krauts and the surrender monkey french holding power in OUR land, what gives them the right?.
We have held these shores against their attempts to rule us for a thousand years, but now, the EU offers the politicians a life of luxury on OUR money if they agree to betray us.
Disgusting.
I AM NOT A EUROPEAN CITIZEN.
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time for the flag of the edl to fly over downing street me thinks ! we will get our country back !
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and people wonder why votes are going to other parties ....

dont they ever listen ?
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He's got no choice now that the thing has been ratified.

This poxy government has sold us right down the swannie.

They have falsified their last manifesto which promised a referendum then subsequently reneged on that. They have given powers away without so much as a by your leave.

I am no legal expert but I am fairly sure there must be grounds for treason here. This treaty should be revoked and the people who forced it through should be put through the criminal justice system and if found guilty hanged by the neck until they are dead. They are a disgrace to this country.
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European superstate here we come

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He had no intention of holding a referendum ! just another vote plying excuse from the uppler class twat
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A very sad day indeed. Does anybody know if this treaty means we can never leave the EU now, even if we did decide we wanted to get out in the future?
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Next to the Islamic terrorists, the EU is the worse enemy we could imagine. This poxy goverment had succeeded is doing what the likes of Napoleon, Hitler etc could never do. And that's to make us SURRENDER!

These are sad and depressing times my friends.
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Should we start holding banners saying 'Give us our referendum!'?

I know it might be a bit late but we are the English Defence League, not just the "Anti-sharia and anti-extremist League"

I really can't believe we are going to have a European President! People in this country are blind to it. They don't seem to see where it is all leading!
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what the ratification of the treaty means is that britain will have to accept it or leave the EU, there is no chance to stop it or repeal it without the unanimous consent of the other 27 governments.
i don't see any problem with the second option though. EU is already an outrage without the lisbon constitution-treaty
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FreedomFry
Nov 3 2009, 11:00 PM
what the ratification of the treaty means is that britain will have to accept it or leave the EU
Problem solved then! As long as UKIP get into power next Year!

In all seriousness, we are completely f**ked! NONE of the mainstream goverments will withdraw from the EU. Goodbye Blighty, Hello third world ghetto!


Where the f**k is Guy Fawkes when we need him eh?
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Nov 3 2009, 10:13 PM
European superstate here we come

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As the UK we have a superstate as it is...

No-one in England, Scotland, Wales or NI was ever offered the chance of a refurrendum on the Union. The people were not askedtherefore it's the exact same thing. So where is the difference?
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Phew! Just read this on the BBC website:

"For the first time, it will also offer a way out to any member states that decide to leave the EU."

Hurry up and leave I say! Reinforce our ties with the English speaking world (USA, Canada, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, etc.) and certain parts of the Commonwealth.

The Tories or Labour would never give us the option to leave though, however much people might want it!
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Nov 3 2009, 11:08 PM
So where is the difference?
The difference is that Britain will probably become a third world dumping ground withing ten years. The EU will milk this country of it's assets to prop up poorer countries. The EU will decide how many immigrants are allowed here (which basically means an endless flow) British laws will now be obsolete and replaced by euro laws (remember Jamie bulgers killers were freed by the euopean courts, and that was years ago. Imagine how it will be now?) We will have to accept the euro which will put our already inflated prices up even more.....The list is endless. f**k THE EU!

Nothing but a modern day communist state. Run by the elite few.
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Our badly deflated currency is due to not accepting the Euro in the first place. By not being involved you'd be going backwards. I've stated on many other threads the present system needs revamped, well a major overhaul. By turning your back on it your going back to the stoneage.
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Nov 3 2009, 11:25 PM
Our badly deflated currency is due to not accepting the Euro in the first place.
In a word......BOLLOCKS! Our problems are caused by an incompotent goverment. END OF!
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Nov 3 2009, 11:25 PM
By turning your back on it your going back to the stoneage.
By not turning our back on it is going back to what Hitler wanted and what Napolean wanted.

The EU was originally intended for trade relations and it should never have become more than that.
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@ Steve Your entitled to your view, I've mine and you have yours, END OF!

@Britain Unite It's exactly what I want, don't think of Europe in it's current form, think would it could become. Far superior to the USA, do not doubt that. A united federal Europe would know no fear. Also with the rise of the new forces in the economy, China and India, it's not only a good idea but essential.
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Actually, our economy is in the sorry state it's in because of the EU. And partly the mismanagement of the Labour party. We pay billions into a corrupt state to support the MEPs , the Common Agricultural Policy (why should we in Britain be supporting unproductive farmers in France, Belgium and Germany when our own farmers are being told to turn good farming land into fallow land.) We have no control over our borders, we have no control over our national waters. Anyone can fish there so long as they're registered in the EU, so our local fish stocks become increasingly depleted. The EU takes billions of us and hands it over to countries like portugal and spain and allows them to build their infrastructures up. The amount of money that comes back to us from the EU is miniscule. The EU is an unelected body of busy bodies interfering in our daily lives. There is a common lie banded about by the left that we can't leave the EU because most of our trade is with the EU. This is actually a blatant lie. Most of the EU trade with us via their exports, it's a one way thing. The biggest market available to us is the commonwealth, but due to protectionist policies of the protectionist EU we aren't allowed to trade with them. We stood for free trade the EU stands for protectionism.

The EU now has taken the power of veto from us. They can now impose anything like on us and we have no say. Anyone who supports membership of the EU is either a left-winger or an idiot with and IQ less than that of slug. Time for us to leave.
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I would rather that we recreated the Commonwealth from its current form into a Free Trade Group of English Speaking countries including countries such as NZ or AUS , Surely we would want a Union or collective with a Group of countries we have something in Common with? rather than a group of Slimy European Bastards.


Vote UKIP
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Also please remember the EU refused to support us against Argentina in a lawful war to regain invaded sovereign territory of the UK. Spain and France actively supported Argentina against us and France and Germany were involved in supplying Arms and weapons technologies. You want these people as your allies. People prepared to stab this country in the back at the first opportunity.
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Nov 3 2009, 11:57 PM
Also please remember the EU refused to support us against Argentina in a lawful war to regain invaded sovereign territory of the UK. Spain and France actively supported Argentina against us and France and Germany were involved in supplying Arms and weapons technologies. You want these people as your allies. People prepared to stab this country in the back at the first opportunity.
Agreed.

The frogs sold the exocets to argentina that sunk our ships, the spanish supported them too.
The krauts have tried to control us twice and failed, this is just a more peaceful way of going about it.
Why did we send millions of brits to their deaths showing these twats that WE SHALL NEVER BE SLAVES, only to keel over and let them bleed us dry.

I will not obey laws created by the EU
I will not respect the opinions of foreigners on my country.
I WILL BURN THE FIRST EU FLAG I GET MY HANDS ON.

Hearing about the liar cameron has put me in a s**tty mood, I can't stand these weak continental dogs.
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Let's be clear, it's the EUSSR - what with all the commissioners and so on...so close to commissar . What proof do we need, it's a communist/socialist superstate in the mould of the USSR. The workers have no rights...somebody in power knows what's best for us whether we like it or not!
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Wait untill the EU army happens LINK

If i was still serving and i was told i was to be part of a unit that was to serve under the EU flag i would refuse to soldier. I would live the consequences and smile through them, Europe is something that makes my blood boil.
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The frogs sold the exocets to argentina that sunk our ships,


Just playing Devils Advocate but the French sold the Argies the Missles 6 months before any the Conflict and the the Diplomatic spat. Its tough to say that they should have predicted or read internation relation between two different countries that far in the future.

Relations were still cordial then.
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The falklands showed what this nation is about:

“In seven weeks a Task Force of 28,000 men and over 100 ships was assembled and sailed 8000 miles. It fought off combat aircraft that outnumbered its own by six to one. It put 8500 men ashore on a hostile coast and fought several pitched battles against the enemy. And brought them to surrender within three and a half weeks”
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The frogs sold the exocets to argentina that sunk our ships,


Just playing Devils Advocate but the French sold the Argies the Missles 6 months before any the Conflict and the the Diplomatic spat. Its tough to say that they should have predicted or read internation relation between two different countries that far in the future.

Relations were still cordial then.
True, but months before the sale the british government had held emergency talks on the sabre rattling coming out of barge-in tina.
The argie junta had made its terrotorially ambitious intentions toward the falklands clear and the french were well aware.
There was no threat to argentina other than internal strife, even the chileans had reduced their border forces considerably in the preceeding years.
The argies knew that without exocets they couldn't dent the royal navy, they would have no chance and the invasion would have been complete suicide.
The navy without losses caused by exocets would have been in a position to bombard argie coastal industrial and military stations.
The french understood this and knew the argies had no other need of the weapon.
Guilty as charged.

I see what you were saying mate, but that's the view the french have gone all out to have taken as the only view.
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Im gonna defend Cameron and the Tories here - he really had no choice but to adopt the no referendum policy. The Treaty is now law and there would be no point having a vote on something that couldnt be repealed. Hearing his speech today he has promised a referendum on any more transfer of power to Europe in the future. The real enemy here is the Labour Party and the only cast iron way to ensure they are out of power is to vote Tory at the next election.

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Not one for huge introductions, but this is my first post after a while lurking so umm, Hi! :D

Just wanted to chip in with this.

I am an Englishman born in England. I am pro British union.
Just like most of you my families blood is all over both the St Georges cross and the Union Jack.
I came from British soil, born from British ancestry, I will live by British laws and when my time is up my 100% British soul leaves my British body I will return to British soil again.

There was no conquest, they could not break us by force so they had to wait for this government of leftist traitors to give our sovereignty away in order to rule us. The traitors didn't give Britain away in my name however, I won't live by any new laws and I AM NOT A EUROPEAN. There was no military defeat, no surrender, there is no shame to us.

my Grandfathers war ended in 1945, looks like mine is just starting.
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Nov 5 2009, 12:47 AM
Not one for huge introductions, but this is my first post after a while lurking so umm, Hi! :D

Just wanted to chip in with this.

I am an Englishman born in England. I am pro British union.
Just like most of you my families blood is all over both the St Georges cross and the Union Jack.
I came from British soil, born from British ancestry, I will live by British laws and when my time is up my 100% British soul leaves my British body I will return to British soil again.

There was no conquest, they could not break us by force so they had to wait for this government of leftist traitors to give our sovereignty away in order to rule us. The traitors didn't give Britain away in my name however, I won't live by any new laws and I AM NOT A EUROPEAN. There was no military defeat, no surrender, there is no shame to us.

my Grandfathers war ended in 1945, looks like mine is just starting.
Welcome mate, great first post.
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That's not surprising...
All the countries where the population would surely say "NO" weren't asked by referundum. I'm pretty sure EU has forced Cameron to take his proposal back. EU knows British people would be against this superstate's rise. And you're not the only ones...

Remember : There was a referendum in Ireland and the people said "NO" to Lisbon Treaty. The EU asked for another referundum until it get the answer it wanted...

See? This just proves how abusive EU is already... So, imagine later?...
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