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Child sex in islam....shocking
Topic Started: Oct 29 2009, 02:23 PM (943 Views)
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Seppuku and Age of Enlightenment have got their heads so far stuck in the sand they can kiss the shores of brisbane australia.


And we're enjoying the weather here with a few pints with the Aussies.


But we don't deny the thread and we don't doubt what they're teaching. We know what's coming our way.

Is it not that simple to see? Not all interpretations in Islam are the same and that we actually have a peaceful version of Islam?

Tell me, what good it is to lump all types of Islam under the 'extremist/serious screwed up' umbrella? (Including those that hate the extremists for being extreme and intolerant.)
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We know the full extent of the threat facing us, and that in schools in Palestine, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan they are teaching people that jews are pigs/apes, that the holocaust never occured, that people of other faiths are either 'people of the book', 'idolators', or 'kuffar/infidels', etc...

Heck I even made a thread about how some islamists chip away at scientific theories (like evolution/natural selection/biogenesis/cosmology) to prove their own quranic creationist bullshit.

Everybody here is well aware of the nonsense going on. Just because I don't agree with you on everything doesn't mean this topic is new to me.
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Seppuku and Age of Enlightenment have got their heads so far stuck in the sand they can kiss the shores of brisbane australia.


And we're enjoying the weather here with a few pints with the Aussies.


But we don't deny the thread and we don't doubt what they're teaching. We know what's coming our way.

Is it not that simple to see? Not all interpretations in Islam are the same and that we actually have a peaceful version of Islam?

Tell me, what good it is to lump all types of Islam under the 'extremist/serious screwed up' umbrella? (Including those that hate the extremists for being extreme and intolerant.)
I am not lumping them together, I never was and never did, what I am saying is their number is extremely large and it is growing, when their children are taught that way by the millions do you think they will leave school, become adults and love the jew, christian and non believer and our way of life?
No way, what will happen when they leave school is they will find a nice imman to carry on the hate, dont take this threat as mere trivia, it is a very serious threat. In fifty years or so they may be the majority in this land and when they gain the upper hand in the political arenas too our way of life will be done, never to return and that my friend is what they are gunning for and they will fight to the death for it.
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Nov 4 2009, 11:22 AM
We know the full extent of the threat facing us, and that in schools in Palestine, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan they are teaching people that jews are pigs/apes, that the holocaust never occured, that people of other faiths are either 'people of the book', 'idolators', or 'kuffar/infidels', etc...

Heck I even made a thread about how some islamists chip away at scientific theories (like evolution/natural selection/biogenesis/cosmology) to prove their own quranic creationist bulls**t.

Everybody here is well aware of the nonsense going on. Just because I don't agree with you on everything doesn't mean this topic is new to me.
I never said my problem with you is that you do not agree with all my comments because that would be a statement of an idiot. My problem with you is when I state a truth that you do not like you start threatening me with warnings etc in an effort to undermine my efforts of debate.
I do know that muslims live in fear of their own families never mind other muslims from voicing their concerns about the radicals among them, I do know innitially they came to these lands to have a free life and now they have been followed here by the hatefilled lunatics they tried to escape from.
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I am not lumping them together, I never was and never did, what I am saying is their number is extremely large and it is growing, when their children are taught that way by the millions do you think they will leave school, become adults and love the jew, christian and non believer and our way of life?
No way, what will happen when they leave school is they will find a nice imman to carry on the hate, dont take this threat as mere trivia, it is a very serious threat. In fifty years or so they may be the majority in this land and when they gain the upper hand in the political arenas too our way of life will be done, never to return and that my friend is what they are gunning for and they will fight to the death for it.


Yes irishcomrad, I accept that as a valid point and it is true there are jihadists (both cultural and overt ones) attempting to chip away at democracy, secularism, our freedoms, our human rights, etc...

This does not prove, however, that christianity itself is benign or innocent. Once upon a time it was christian bigots and fascists wanting to destroy our rights and freedoms, now it's the islamic kind.

Edit - responding to your second post:

Where did I say I am warning you for disagreeing with me, or because you post facts about islam? Straw man alert. Prove your claims where I said any of that.

I gave you warnings because you refer to the actions of muslims, or aspects of islam as being an inherent racial trait of all muslims. The EDL doesn't support comments like that, which will damage our image.
Edited by AgeofEnlightenment, Nov 4 2009, 11:36 AM.
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How come your refer to Islam as a death cult and argue against the separation of the terms 'peaceful or moderate Islam' and 'extreme Islam', if you're not lumping them together? In referring to Islam as an extreme religion, you're putting the non-extreme forms of Islam under the same umbrella. Perhaps that is not your intention.

We can agree that not all forms of Islam are not dedicated to making a bunch of mindless extremist douche-bags? And that the real threats come from extreme versions of Islam, but not Islam as a whole?

Also - would you agree that Christianity isn't entirely innocent?
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Nov 4 2009, 11:33 AM


Straw man alert. Prove your claims where I said any of that.

I gave you warnings because you refer to the actions of muslims, or aspects of islam as being an inherent racial trait of all muslims. The EDL doesn't support comments like that, which will damage our image.
Straw man alert yerself

I never said all muslims are the same the good and the bad, so get off your high horse and stop putting words in my mouth
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Nov 4 2009, 11:34 AM
How come your refer to Islam as a death cult and argue against the separation of the terms 'peaceful or moderate Islam' and 'extreme Islam', if you're not lumping them together? In referring to Islam as an extreme religion, you're putting the non-extreme forms of Islam under the same umbrella. Perhaps that is not your intention.

We can agree that not all forms of Islam are not dedicated to making a bunch of mindless extremist douche-bags? And that the real threats come from extreme versions of Islam, but not Islam as a whole?

Also - would you agree that Christianity isn't entirely innocent?
The reason I said Islam is a death cult is because the Quoran teaches their followers to kill and maim, the moderates dont do that as you mentioned but there are many who do, so if you can prove otherwise I will take my words back that Islam is a deasth cult and say the Quoran only teaches love exactly the same as buddhists, if you can not prove otherwise I go back back to my innitial proclamation that Islam is a death cult
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Irishcomrad:

You didn't even read the comment I made. Here's something I previously warned you on:

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They truly are a sick race of people who allow this norm to perpetuate through their lives as nonchalantly as it does


That was said by you on a thread about pedophillia in islam. You made gross sweeping statements which were aimed at all muslims on a racial level.

Here you were making the same negative statements about muslims being some kind of demonised race.
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They truly are a sick race of people who allow this norm to perpetuate through their lives as nonchalantly as it does

Any religion that encourages the systematic peadofilic abuse of their children is sick, very very sick indeed, please read Child Marriage in the Islamic World By: Robert Spencer
Then tell me I am wrong but before you do take a look at your children in your own families and if you still think my comments are wrong then I have grave concerns about your make up.

Child Marriage in the Islamic World By: Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, September 18, 2009


CNN reported this week that “a 12-year-old Yemeni girl, who was forced into marriage, died during a painful childbirth that also killed her baby.” It was a horrific story – but in the Islamic world, not an unusual one.


This is because of the example of the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, whom the Koran (33:21) calls the “excellent example” of conduct for Muslims. Muhammad himself notoriously had a child bride. According to Sahih Bukhari, the hadith collection that Muslims consider most reliable, Islamic tradition, “the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).” Another tradition recalls that at the age of nine, she was playing on a swing with some of her friends when Muhammad came for her.



The Koran takes child marriage for granted in its directives about divorce. Discussing the waiting period required in order to determine if the woman is pregnant, it says: “If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The same shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated” (65:4, emphasis added). Allah thus gives directives for a situation in which a pre-pubescent woman is not only married, but is being divorced by her husband.



This behavior by the man whom hundreds of millions of people regard as the exemplary standard of conduct has brought suffering to untold numbers of women and girls.



One Islamic land where child marriage is common – in fact, more common than anywhere else in the world – is northern Nigeria, where Sharia is in force. The Nigerian government has tried to act against the practice, passing a law in 2003, the Child Rights Act, that set the minimum age for marriage at eighteen. Islamic clerics have been the fiercest opponents of this law: Imam Sani, a Nigerian cleric, explained: “Child marriage in Islam is permissible. In the Koran there is no specific age of marriage.” Consequently, “the Muslim clerics have a problem with this Child Rights Act and they decried it, they castigate it, they reject it and they don’t want it introduced in Nigeria.” If the government imposed the law, Sani said, “There will be violent conflict from the Muslims, saying that ‘no, we will not accept this, we’d rather die than accept something which is not a law from Allah.’”



Nigeria is made up of 36 states, of which 18 have passed the Child Rights Act; however, only one majority-Muslim Nigerian state has passed the law, and that with a change that set “puberty,” rather than the age of eighteen, as the minimum requirement for lawful marriage. The result? As many as 800,000 Nigerian women are afflicted with fistula, a disease resulting from early intercourse and pregnancy.



Nigeria is not alone, either in the prevalence of child marriage there or in attempts at reform the practice. In September 2008, Moroccan officials closed 60 Koranic schools operated by Sheikh Mohamed Ben Abderrahman Al-Maghraoui – because he issued a decree stating that marriage to girls as young as nine was justified by Muhammad’s example. “The sheikh,” according to Agence France-Presse, “said his decree was based on the fact that the Prophet Mohammed consummated his marriage to his favourite wife when she was that age.”



It should come as no surprise, then, given the words of the Koran about divorcing prepubescent women and Muhammad’s example in marrying Aisha, that in some areas of the Islamic world the practice of child marriage enjoys the blessing of the law. Time magazine reported in 2001 that “in Iran the legal age for marriage is nine for girls, fourteen for boys,” and notes that “the law has occasionally been exploited by pedophiles, who marry poor young girls from the provinces, use and then abandon them. In 2000 the Iranian Parliament voted to raise the minimum age for girls to fourteen, but this year, a legislative oversight body dominated by traditional clerics vetoed the move.” The New York Times reported in 2008 that in Yemen, “despite a rising tide of outrage, the fight against the practice is not easy. Hard-line Islamic conservatives, whose influence has grown enormously in the past two decades, defend it, pointing to the Prophet Muhammad’s marriage to a 9-year-old.” (The Times doesn’t seem fazed by the fact that “conservatives” in the U.S. are not generally advocates of child marriage.)



And so child marriage remains prevalent in many areas of the Islamic world. In 2007, photographer Stephanie Sinclair won the UNICEF Photo of the Year competition for a wedding photograph of an Afghani couple: the groom was said to be 40 years old but looked older; the bride was eleven. UNICEF Patroness Eva Luise Köhler explained: “The UNICEF Photo of the Year 2007 raises awareness about a worldwide problem. Millions of girls are married while they are still under age. Most of theses child brides are forever denied a self-determined life.” According to UNICEF, about half of the women in Afghanistan are married before they reach the age of eighteen.



It’s a human rights abuse of massive proportions. Yet once again, Western feminists are silent. Their indifference indicates that their real agenda is not women’s rights at all, but the pursuit of raw political power in Western societies. Meanwhile, their “sisters” in the Islamic world suffer on, with no one to speak for them.
Robert Spencer is a scholar of Islamic history, theology, and law and the director of Jihad Watch. He is the author of eight books, eleven monographs, and hundreds of articles about jihad and Islamic terrorism, including the New York Times Bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad. His latest book, Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam is Subverting America without Guns or Bombs, is available now from Regnery Publishing.
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Irishcomrad:

I'm well-versed on the problem of pedophillia in muslim-majority countries, however it does not justify your comments about it being a racial trait of all muslims.

I'd also appreciate it if you just post the links, rather than unnecessarily posting the whole article here. I'm getting sick of having to reply to stuff like this, just clogs up the threads.
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Irishcomrad:

I'm well-versed on the problem of pedophillia in muslim-majority countries, however it does not justify your comments about it being a racial trait of all muslims.

I'd also appreciate it if you just post the links, rather than unnecessarily posting the whole article here. I'm getting sick of having to reply to stuff like this, just clogs up the threads.
I never said it was a racial trait of all muslims what I said was:-

They truly are a sick race of people who allow this norm to perpetuate through their lives as nonchalantly as it does

I said those that allow the perpetuation of paedophilia to be a sick race of people, I never said those that oppose it were, massive difference.

Please quote me fairly as opposed to miss quoting me please
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The reason I said Islam is a death cult is because the Quoran teaches their followers to kill and maim, the moderates dont do that as you mentioned but there are many who do, so if you can prove otherwise I will take my words back that Islam is a deasth cult and say the Quoran only teaches love exactly the same as buddhists, if you can not prove otherwise I go back back to my innitial proclamation that Islam is a death cult



By the exact same logic - Christianity is a death cult.
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The reason I said Islam is a death cult is because the Quoran teaches their followers to kill and maim, the moderates dont do that as you mentioned but there are many who do, so if you can prove otherwise I will take my words back that Islam is a deasth cult and say the Quoran only teaches love exactly the same as buddhists, if you can not prove otherwise I go back back to my innitial proclamation that Islam is a death cult



By the exact same logic - Christianity is a death cult.
Yes christianity is a death cult in exactly the same degree all over the world as Islam is.
I agree they are both extremley ruthless, murdering, bombing, paedophilic, honour killing, entities who bring misery to the free world to the exact degree as each other.

Yes of course it is like saying reggie kray was as dangerous as adolph hitler, both vile, but one gets sympathy from a few and the other gets sympathy from many. But both are condemned as evil all the same

I know you want to do the same in comparison to islam and christianity, well if that is what you want to do than that is fine by me, as I mentioned we shall have to agree to disagree.
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The reason I said Islam is a death cult is because the Quoran teaches their followers to kill and maim, the moderates dont do that as you mentioned but there are many who do, so if you can prove otherwise I will take my words back that Islam is a deasth cult and say the Quoran only teaches love exactly the same as buddhists, if you can not prove otherwise I go back back to my innitial proclamation that Islam is a death cult



By the exact same logic - Christianity is a death cult.
OK lets do a comparison islam death cult versus christianity death cult, I will go first. Below you will find Islam death cult crimes within the last two months. Please feel free to list your christian death cult crimes over the last two months alo, lets see who wins eh?


List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 Months

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2009.11.03 Yemen Hadramut 5 0 al-Qadea militants open fire on a vehicle, machine-gunning five people to death.
2009.11.02 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two men riding in a pickup truck are shot to death by a terrorist disguised in a burka.
2009.11.02 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists break into a house and murder a villager.
2009.11.02 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two men are killed in a Religion of Peace drive-by.
2009.11.02 Pakistan Lahore 0 25 Twenty-five people are injured when a suicide bomber detonates along a city street.
2009.11.02 Iraq Khanaqin 2 0 A man and his son are gunned down by Muslim terrorists.
2009.11.02 Pakistan Rawalpindi 36 63 Fundamentalists set off a massive bomb near a line of people outside a bank, putting down at least thirty-five.
2009.11.02 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.'
2009.11.01 Somalia Lascanood 5 4 Suspected Shabaab radicals blow up a car with five people inside.
2009.11.01 India Srinagar 2 0 Islamists murder two traffic cops in a hit-and-run surprise attack at an intersection.
2009.11.01 Dagestan Bavtugai 1 0 A local mosque official is assassinated by extremists.
2009.11.01 Iraq Karbala 3 15 Terrorists plant a bomb on a bus that leaves three people dead.
2009.11.01 Iraq Ramadi 3 5 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes down three Iraqis.
2009.11.01 Iraq Mussayab 9 38 Jihadis rig a bicycle with explosives, then set it off in a market, killing at least nine innocents.
2009.11.01 Philippines Banisilan 1 2 Moro Islamists ambush a car carrying civilians, shooting at least one to death.
2009.10.31 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamists kidnap a local man, handcuff him, then shoot him in the head.
2009.10.31 Philippines Sulu 1 4 Moro Islamists open fire on a passing patrol, killing at least one.
2009.10.31 Pakistan Bara 7 12 Lashkar-e-Islam members use a roadside bomber to murder seven security personnel.
2009.10.31 Pakistan Khyber 2 7 Sunni hardliners blow up a girls' school and mortar a residential neighborhood, killing two civilians.
2009.10.30 Thailand Yala 1 1 A Buddhist woman is brutally shot to death, and her husband is seriously injured, by Muslim radicals.
2009.10.30 Pakistan Pir Sarhandi Goth 1 0 An older homosexual man is pulled from his home and beaten to death by a Muslim mob.
2009.10.30 Iraq Baghdad 1 3 Mujahideen bombers murder a government official.
2009.10.30 Iraq Tikrit 1 0 A young man has his throat slashed by Sunni militants.
2009.10.30 Afghanistan Nangarhar 9 0 All nine civilians riding in a taxi are slaughtered by Taliban bombers.
2009.10.29 Iraq Baquba 1 2 A civilian is taken out by a Fedayeen suicide bomber outside a hospital.
2009.10.29 Iraq Mosul 3 1 Sunni gunmen murder three Iraqi policemen at point-blank range.
2009.10.29 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 0 A child is among four Afghan civilians torn to pieces by an Islamist bomb.
2009.10.28 Iraq Baghdad 3 4 Three women sitting on a minibus are blown to bits by Islamic bombers.
2009.10.28 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 78-year-old Buddhist man is shot off his motorbike by Muslim terrorists.
2009.10.28 Iraq Mosul 3 5 Mujahideen kill three civilians with a roadside bomb.
2009.10.28 Afghanistan Kabul 9 9 Mujahideen force their way into a UN guesthouse, where they murder nine people, including six international workers.
2009.10.28 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim radicals shoot a Buddhist motorcycle shop owner to death, then set fire to his body.
2009.10.28 Pakistan Peshawar 117 200 Over one-hundred people - mostly women and children - are blown to bits by a massive car bomb blast at a busy market.
2009.10.28 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two civilians are gunned down in separate Muslim drive-bys.
2009.10.27 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 Taliban radicals shoot a man to death while he is sitting in his shop.
2009.10.27 Iraq Tikrit 2 0 Jihadis blow up an oil tanker, killing the two drivers.
2009.10.27 Iraq Baiji 1 0 Terrorists attack a bomb to a car which kills an 11-year-old boy trying to remove it.
2009.10.27 Pakistan Mohmand 2 3 Religious extremists attack a police post, killing two officers.
2009.10.26 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Dedicated Muslims gun down two Buddhist civilians looking for food.
2009.10.26 Iraq Mosul 2 2 Mujahideen gunmen murder two civilians.
2009.10.26 Iraq Karbalah 4 12 A suicide bomber sends four souls to Allah.
2009.10.25 Iraq Baghdad 160 540 Two massive car bombs take out one-hundred and sixty Iraqis standing near or in government buildings. The dead include 30 children at a day care center. The Islamic State of Iraq takes responsibility.
2009.10.25 Somalia Merca 2 0 Two men are shot to death by al-Shabaab militants
2009.10.25 Yemen Dalea 2 3 Two local soldiers are gunned down in a suspected sectarian ambush.
2009.10.24 Pakistan Punjab 1 0 A police officer is killed by a Fedayeen bomber.
2009.10.24 Iraq Tikrit 2 7 A suicide bomber takes out seven at a political headquarters.
2009.10.24 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A Buddhist working as a janitor is shot to death by Muslim militants at a tea shop.
2009.10.24 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamists gun down a farmer in his field.
2009.10.23 Pakistan South Waziristan 18 6 Eighteen people in a wedding party, mostly children, perish in a horrific bombing attack on a minibus.
2009.10.23 Pakistan Peshawar 0 15 Islamists car bomb a restaurant, injuring fifteen people.
2009.10.23 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 3 Islamic radicals bomb a family in their vehicle, killing two members.
2009.10.23 Pakistan Kamra 8 17 A Fedayeen pedals to paradise, taking eight others with him in the suicide blast outside an aeronautical complex.
2009.10.23 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 29-year-old villager is shot in the head by Muslim militants.
2009.10.23 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 23-year-old man is murdered by Islamic terrorists.
2009.10.23 Thailand Yala 2 1 Two men are murdered by Mujahideen gunmen, one in his home.
2009.10.22 Thailand Yala 1 0 Muslim radicals shoot a man to death inside his home.
2009.10.22 Somalia Mogadishu 18 60 Islamic militia mortar an airport, killing at least eighteen innocents.
2009.10.22 Ingushetia Nazran 1 2 Islamists kill the driver of a police vehicle with a roadside bomb.
2009.10.22 Algeria Kabylia 7 2 Seven security personnel are cut down by automatic weapons at close range while they are riding a bus.
2009.10.22 Pakistan Islamabad 2 0 Talibanis assassinate a brigadier and his driver in broad daylight in the capital.
2009.10.21 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A girl and her father are murdered by Muslim gunmen.
2009.10.21 Iraq Iskandariya 2 12 Jihadis bomb a livestock market, killing at least two attendees.
2009.10.21 Iraq Bousef 2 0 A man and woman are gunned down by Sunni militants.
2009.10.21 Thailand Narathiwat 3 2 A woman is among three construction workers murdered by Mujahideen.
2009.10.21 Iraq Kirkuk 2 1 A shopkeeper and journalist are killed in separate attacks.
2009.10.21 Philippines Patikul 1 2 Abu Sayyaf members plant a bomb near a water pipe which kills an inspector.
2009.10.21 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two men are gunned down by Islamic militants in separate attacks.
2009.10.20 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists shoot a 57-year-old man to death inside his construction shop.
2009.10.20 Pakistan Islamabad 6 29 Two suicide bombers attack a women's university about a minute apart, leaving six students and staff dead.
2009.10.20 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two men are kidnapped and murdered by Muslim terrorists.
2009.10.20 Pakistan Orakzai 2 0 Two young police recruits are abducted and shot to death in captivity by hardliners.
2009.10.20 USA Peoria, AZ 0 2 A Muslim immigrant runs down his 20-year-old daughter with his car for being too 'Westernized.' She and another woman are injured.
2009.10.20 Iraq Saqlawiya 4 12 Four people are murdered when Mujahideen set off a car bomb at a gas station.
2009.10.19 Somalia Galkayo 1 0 A Christian woman is murdered by Islamists inside her home for refusing to wear a veil.
2009.10.19 Iraq Baghdad 4 13 Jihadis bomb a restaurant and a minibus, killing at least four innocents.
2009.10.19 Thailand Yala 0 28 Islamic militants set off a bomb at a packed market, injuring over two dozen.
2009.10.18 India Poonch 1 0 A local soldier is murdered when terrorists plant a landmine in the road.
2009.10.18 Iran Pisheen 42 25 A suicidal Sunni from the 'Soldiers of God' group detonates in a gymnasium, slaughtering nearly fifty people.
2009.10.18 Iraq Adhamiya 8 29 Mujahideen set off two bombs in commercial areas, sending eight civilians to Allah.
2009.10.18 Egypt Attaleen 1 0 Muslims gun down a 61-year-old Christian whose son was dating a Muslim girl.
2009.10.18 Iraq Baghdad 5 16 Five patrons at a cafe are blown to bits by a bomb planted on a motorcycle.
2009.10.18 Iraq Mosul 1 5 Muslim gunmen take down a child in a drive-by.
2009.10.17 Pakistan FATA 3 6 Three local soldiers are killed in a bomb set by religious extremists.
2009.10.17 Iraq Mosul 4 4 A child is among four people cut down by Islamic militants in separate attacks.
2009.10.17 Iraq Falluja 4 10 Mujahideen set off a roadside bomb, killing four local security personnel.
2009.10.16 Iraq Tal Afar 15 70 A suicide bomber at a rival mosque yell's 'Allah Akbar', then opens up on worshippers with a machine-gun before detonating, leaving at least fifteen dead in the massacre.
2009.10.16 Pakistan Peshawar 15 24 Two girls are among fifteen innocents incinerated by Fedayeen suicide bombers.
2009.10.16 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A local soldier standing guard is murdered by a suicide bomber.
2009.10.16 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A young policeman is gunned down in an Islamist drive-by.
2009.10.15 Pakistan Lahore 28 67 Shahid suicide attackers brutally assault two police academies, killing nearly thirty people.
2009.10.15 Pakistan Peshawar 1 12 A 6-year-old child is blown apart by a remote-controlled car bomb along a city street.
2009.10.15 Pakistan Kohat 11 16 Eleven people are murdered when a Fedayeen car bomber plows into a crowd.
2009.10.14 Pakistan Sherazi Mohalla 1 0 A man is stabbed to death in front of his wife and child by his in-laws for marrying without permission.
2009.10.14 Iraq Karbala 6 45 Sunni bombers strike three groups of praying Shias in separate attacks, leaving a half-dozen dead.
2009.10.14 Afghanistan Zabul 2 6 Religious extremists kill two local soldiers with a roadside bomb.
2009.10.13 Iraq Baquba 6 10 A Shahid detonates himself in a cafe, killing at least six others.
2009.10.13 Somalia Mogadishu 4 11 Four people are killed when Hizbul Islam terrorists ambush government troops.
2009.10.12 Pakistan Alpuri 41 45 A 12-year-old suicide bomber slaughters forty-one people at a crowded market.
2009.10.12 Iraq Abu Khamis 2 2 Terrorists target the mayor of a town with a bomb, killing two of his sons instead.
2009.10.12 Iraq Buhriz 4 5 Jihadi bombers take out four Iraqis in multiple attacks.
2009.10.12 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 A Shia man is gunned down in a sectarian attack.
2009.10.11 Iraq Ramadi 19 80 Three horrific bombings, one at a hospital, leave nineteen innocents dead.
2009.10.11 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Muslim militants murder a 37-year-old civilian sitting in a tea shop.
2009.10.11 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A cattle rancher is shot to death in his field by Religion of Peace gunmen.
2009.10.11 Thailand Yala 1 0 A butcher on his way home is gunned down by Islamists.
2009.10.11 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A university student is among two civilians murdered by the terror group, Islamic State of Iraq.
2009.10.10 Pakistan Rawalpindi 9 0 Islamic militants storm a security headquarters, killing six officers in the siege and three more taken hostage.
2009.10.10 Somalia Kismayo 25 41 Twenty-five people are killed when Hizbul Islam hard-liners attack their rivals.
2009.10.10 Pakistan Khuzdar 2 0 Suspected Islamists machine-gun two truck drivers to death.
2009.10.10 Afghanistan Kunduz 1 0 A young policeman is murdered by Taliban bombers.
2009.10.10 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 al-Shabaab militants shoot a man to death at a market.
2009.10.10 Somalia Afgoye 1 0 A Hizbul Islam leader is gunned down by Islamic rivals.
2009.10.09 Chechnya Grozny 1 3 Islamic insurgents fire an RPG at a police post, killing one officer.
2009.10.09 Afghanistan Kabul 2 4 Two Polish soldiers assisting a road construction project are killed by Taliban bombers.
2009.10.09 Afghanistan Paktia 6 3 A suicide bomber murders six guards at a road construction project.
2009.10.09 Iraq Saqlawiya 3 0 al-Qaeda bombers murder a cleric and two of his associates on their way home.
2009.10.09 Pakistan Peshawar 52 100 Over fifty innocent civilians at a market are incinerated by a dedicated Sunni suicide car bomber.
2009.10.09 Somalia Mogadishu 3 0 al-Shabaab militants shoot three rivals to death.
2009.10.08 Afghanistan Kabul 17 76 A suicide bomber detonates outside the Indian embassy, ending the lives of seventeen innocents.
2009.10.08 Iraq Jalawla 2 4 Two Iraqis are murdered by Jihadi bombers.
2009.10.08 Iraq Yusufiya 3 10 Suspected Islamists set off a bomb outside a shop, killing three civilians.
2009.10.07 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Islamists shoot two men to death, one as he is driving his child to school.
2009.10.07 Afghanistan Ghazni 3 0 Taliban bombers take out three local cops.
2009.10.07 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 9 Two civilians are killed when Mujahideen toss a grenade at a hospital.
2009.10.07 Iraq Shirqat 3 0 The tortured bodies of three kidnapped police officers are found.
2009.10.06 Thailand Narathiwat 4 42 Islamic militants kill four civilians in separate bombings, including a Buddhist woman at a restaurant.
2009.10.06 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 25 Taliban militants rocket a passenger bus, killing two men.
2009.10.06 Iraq Amiriyeh 7 25 Terrorists set off a bus bomb near a mosque, killing at least seven Iraqis along the crowded street.
2009.10.05 Pakistan Islamabad 5 6 Two women are among five people killed when a suicide bomber detonates at a UN World Food Program office.
2009.10.05 Thailand Narathiwat 1 17 Islamists gun down a laborer and also set off a bomb at a Buddhist festival.
2009.10.05 Philippines Jolo 1 1 Abu Sayyaf shot a guard for a bridge construction crew to death.
2009.10.05 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A 10-year-old boy is taken out by a bomb hidden in a garbage can.
2009.10.05 Iraq Haditha 6 15 A half-dozen funeral mourners are blown to bits by a suicide bomber.
2009.10.05 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 The tortured body of a Christian businessman is discovered three days after being kidnapped by Muslims.
2009.10.04 Iraq Baghdad 2 4 A truck driver is among two people killed in two Jihad bombings.
2009.10.04 Somalia Kismayo 8 14 Eight people are killed when rival Islamic hardliners clash.
2009.10.04 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 A 55-year-old Christian nurse is kidnapped and tortured to death by Religion of Peace militants.
2009.10.04 India Srinagar 1 0 Muslim cops kill a Hindu boy for marrying a Muslim girl.
2009.10.04 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 A woman is shot to death in an 'honor killing.'
2009.10.04 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A villager is shot in the neck and then set on fire by Religion of Peace separatists.
2009.10.03 Afghanistan Kunduz 4 20 Four civilians at a market are blown to bits by a Taliban planted bomb.
2009.10.03 Pakistan Bajur 2 0 A tribal elder and a civilian are murdered separately by Muslim extremists.
2009.10.03 Afghanistan Wardak 2 0 An Islamic militant dressed as a local soldier shoots two American troops to death as they sleep.
2009.10.03 Iraq Mosul 3 0 A beheaded woman is among three people killed by terrorists in three incidents.
2009.10.03 Pakistan Islamabad 1 2 Three Hindu men are abducted, one of whom is murdered in captivity.
2009.10.02 Russia Kabardino-Balkaria 1 3 Muslim gunmen kill a police officer in a drive-by.
2009.10.02 Somalia Mogadishu 6 15 Six people are killed when Muslim radicals mortar a main market.
2009.10.02 Somalia Kismayo 22 70 Civilians are among the two dozen people killed when Islamic factions clash.
2009.10.02 Iraq Shurouq 1 4 Terrorists plant a bomb at a mosque, killing an imam who also worked as a policeman.
2009.10.02 Iraq Diyala 2 0 A barber is among two people taken down by Religion of Peace gunmen.
2009.10.02 Pakistan Mardan 2 0 Islamic radicals murder two local police.
2009.10.02 India Sopore 1 0 A civilian is killed by religious militants.
2009.10.02 Thailand Pattani 2 0 A middle-aged Buddhist man is among two people murdered separately by Muslim gunmen.
2009.10.02 Afghanistan Kunar 1 3 Taliban extremists attack a group of trucks, killing one of the drivers.
2009.10.01 Somalia Mogadishu 5 6 Islamists shell a vegetable market, killing five civilians, including women.
2009.09.30 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 A local village head is murdered by Muslim gunmen.
2009.09.30 Iraq Baghdad 1 1 Mujahideen plant a bomb under a car, killing a man and injuring his wife.
2009.09.30 Philippines Jolo 3 2 Abu Sayyaf terrorists kill three soldiers riding in a vehicle, including two American seamen.
2009.09.30 Iraq Baghdad 1 8 A university student is murdered by Jihad bus bombers.
2009.09.30 Pakistan Swat 1 0 A family man who sheltered a Chinese engineer who escaped from the Taliban is murdered.
2009.09.30 India Bandipora 1 0 Islamic militants storm a home and murder a resident.
2009.09.30 Iraq Mahmudiya 3 1 Three Iraqi police are gunned down point-blank by Sunni ambushers at a checkpoint.
2009.09.30 Pal. Auth. Hebron 1 0 A 16-year-old is strangled by her family in an honor killing.
2009.09.29 India Baramulla 3 2 Islamic militants cut down three police standing guard at a bus station.
2009.09.29 Somalia Kismayo 1 0 A local businessman is assassinated by Islamists.
2009.09.29 Somalia Mogadishu 8 6 Eight civilians are killed during an ambush by Islamic militia.
2009.09.29 Iraq Baghdad 18 55 At least eighteen Iraqis are killed in multiple terror attacks around the country.
2009.09.29 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamic radicals gun down a civilian in a drive-by.
2009.09.29 Thailand Pattani 2 2 A Buddhist woman is among two people killed when Islamic 'insurgents' spray a home with automatic weapons fire.
2009.09.29 Afghanistan Kandahar 30 39 Ten children and seven women are among thirty people killed when religious extremists bomb a passenger bus.
2009.09.28 India Pulwama 1 0 A young woman is cut down by Lashkar-e-Toiba gunmen.
2009.09.28 Iraq Ramadi 7 16 Seven people are murdered when a Fedayeen suicide bomber detonates along a city street.
2009.09.28 Pakistan Orakzai 1 0 A man is abducted and killed by Islamic terrorists.
2009.09.28 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two villagers are gunned down by Muslim militants.
2009.09.28 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Islamic separatists murder two civilians in their home.
2009.09.28 Afghanistan Kunar 6 0 Six civilians traveling in a car are massacred by Taliban bombers.
2009.09.28 Iraq Tal Afar 4 0 Four Kurds are captured and executed by al-Qaeda.
2009.09.28 Iraq Baghdad 5 28 Vicious back-to-back bombings leave five Iraqis dead.
2009.09.28 Iraq Diwaniyah 3 5 Jihadis bomb a minibus, killing three passengers.
2009.09.28 Somalia Marerey 1 0 A 46-year-old Christian woman is shot to death by Islamists after being found with Bibles.
2009.09.28 Pakistan Bannu 4 0 Four people are incinerated by a suicide bomber.
2009.09.28 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 Two 'enemies of Allah' are executed at a livestock market.
2009.09.28 Pakistan North Waziristan 2 5 Islamic radicals fire rockets into a military base, killing two local soldiers.
2009.09.28 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Suspected Muslim insurgents stab a man to death.
2009.09.28 Jordan Amman 1 0 A 40-year-old divorced mother of five is stabbed fifteen times by her brothers for having a 'bad reputation.'
2009.09.27 Iraq Ramadi 4 8 A Shahid suicide bomber blasts four Iraqis to death outside a police station.
2009.09.27 Afghanistan Herat 4 17 Four civilians are blown to bits by a motorcycle suicide bomber.
2009.09.27 Afghanistan Farah 5 0 Taliban bombers take out five civilians traveling in a car.
2009.09.27 Pakistan Sargodha 2 0 A man shoots his teen daughter and her lover to death in the name of honor.
2009.09.27 Afghanistan Badghis 1 0 An 'enemy of Allah' is hanged by Sunni hardliners.
2009.09.27 Chechnya Stary Achkoi 2 0 Muslim gunmen murder a man and his son as they are sitting in their car.
2009.09.27 Thailand Yala 1 1 A man visiting his brother's grave is murdered by Muslim bombers.
2009.09.26 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 A man and his wife are brutally gunned down by Islamic radicals.
2009.09.26 Iraq Mosul 1 0 An off-duty policeman is shot to death by Sunni terrorists.
2009.09.26 Pakistan Peshawar 11 94 Eleven people outside a bank are murdered by a Jihad car bomb.
2009.09.26 Pakistan Bannu 13 64 A truck bomber detonates outside a police station, killing thirteen people on the street, including a young child.
2009.09.25 Afghanistan Herat 4 0 The Taliban shoot three civilians and hang another.
2009.09.24 Somalia Mogadishu 5 10 Five civilians die in an ambush claimed by Hizbul Islam.
2009.09.24 Pakistan Bannu 9 0 Islamic radicals open fire on two cars carrying tribal elders. Nine victims are cut down.
2009.09.24 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Sunni gunmen take down two local cops at a checkpoint.
2009.09.24 Afghanistan Helmand 4 2 Taliban hardliners murder four police with a roadside bomb.
2009.09.23 Thailand Yala 1 1 A 16-year-old boy is shot to death by Muslim radicals in a drive-by attack.
2009.09.23 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two Buddhists, one a 19-year-old woman, are brutally murdered by Muslim gunmen.
2009.09.23 Afghanistan Kandahar 7 0 Three children and two women are among seven innocents wiped out by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2009.09.23 Iraq Mosul 4 1 Four Iraqis are killed in two Jihad bombing attacks.
2009.09.23 Afghanistan Herat 1 2 A teenage boy is gunned down in his home by Islamic militants, who also injure his sister and mother.
2009.09.22 Afghanistan Farah 5 2 Five civilians are blown to bits when their car is hit by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2009.09.22 Somalia Mogadishu 8 20 Eight civilians are killed during an attack by Islamic hardliners.
2009.09.22 India Baramulla 1 4 A local soldier is gunned down in an ambush by Islamic militants.
2009.09.21 Iraq Latifiya 3 2 Three people are incinerated by a Jihad bomb blast at a gas station.
2009.09.21 Philippines Sulu 8 9 Abu Sayyaf terrorists kill eight soldiers in an ambush.
2009.09.20 Somalia Wanlaweyn 2 0 al-Shabaab Islamists gun down two demonstrators who are protesting them.
2009.09.20 Iraq Iskandariya 1 4 Suspected al-Qaeda bomb a cemetery, killing at least one mourner.
2009.09.20 Ingushetia Gazi-Yurt 2 1 Two local police are gunned down by Islamic militants.
2009.09.20 Sudan Jonglei 51 46 Fifty-one non-Muslim villagers are massacred in an assault by armed forces directed by the Islamic Republic.
2009.09.20 India Ganderbal 1 1 Mujahideen barge into a home and shot two sisters, killing one.
2009.09.20 Russia Cherkessk 1 0 A moderate cleric is assassinated by Wahabbi extremists.
2009.09.20 Pakistan Hangu 4 4 Four people are machine-gunned to death at a market by Muslim terrorists.
2009.09.19 Afghanistan Helmand 1 1 A Danish soldier is killed by a sniper while on patrol.
2009.09.19 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 0 A Taliban bomb hidden in a bicycle leaves two civilians dead.
2009.09.19 Afghanistan Kandahar 5 16 Five Afghans are murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.09.19 Pakistan Malakand 5 0 Five people are riddled with bullets when Talibanis open point blank on a passenger vehicle.
2009.09.19 Iraq Zubair 2 0 Two members of a religious minority are murdered by Muslim gunmen.
2009.09.19 Iraq Mosul 1 2 An 11-year-old boy dies from injuries following a Jihad bombing.
2009.09.19 Pakistan Darra Adam Khel 2 0 A suspected suicide attack kills two innocents.
2009.09.19 Afghanistan Herat 2 7 Two children, ages 7 and 10, are blasted to death by a female suicide bomber.
2009.09.18 Algeria Boumerdes 1 0 Islamic fundamentalists kill a local soldier with a bomb.
2009.09.18 Pakistan Hangu 1 0 The mayor of a town is gunned down in a sectarian attack.
2009.09.18 Pakistan Kohat 3 0 Three mourners at a funeral are shot to death by Sunni militants.
2009.09.18 Pakistan Ustarzai 39 54 Thirty-nine innocents are slaughtered by a devastating Lashkar-i-Jhangvi Al-Alami bomb attack on a busy Shiite market.
2009.09.18 India Doda 2 0 Islamic terrorists ambush and kill two police officers.
2009.09.18 Iraq Mahmoudiya 7 21 Jihadi car bombers hit a market as it is packed with Ramadan shoppers. Seven Iraqis are killed.
2009.09.18 Algeria Kabylie 1 0 A civilian is gunned down by fundamentalists.
2009.09.17 Afghanistan Kabul 16 40 Civilians and soldiers are among the dead as a Shahid suicide bomber detonates along a city street.
2009.09.17 Somalia Mogadishu 21 30 Over twenty African peacekeepers and civilians are killed in a devastating suicide truck bomb attack.
2009.09.17 Thailand Pattani 3 2 A Buddhist laborer is among three civilians shot to death by Islamic terrorists in separate attacks.
2009.09.17 Iraq Tal Afar 3 3 A suicide truck bomber takes down three civilians.
2009.09.17 Iraq Tuz Khurmato 2 1 Two Iraqis are killed in a Mujahideen bombing.
2009.09.17 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 Two members of a family are kidnapped and tortured to death by Sunni hardliners.
2009.09.17 Thailand Pattani 2 2 Two Buddhist security personnel, one of whom was with his wife, are killed in separate Muslim shootings.
2009.09.16 Philippines Tungawan 3 0 Moro Islamists murder three people by throwing a grenade into a village.
2009.09.16 Egypt Bagur 1 2 A 63-year-old Christian is stabbed to death by a rampaging Muslim.
2009.09.16 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A man picking up groceries in his truck is gunned down by Muslim radicals.
2009.09.16 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 8 A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends two civilians to Allah.
2009.09.16 Iraq Khalis 3 6 Jihadi car bombers take out three Iraqis.
2009.09.16 Afghanistan Khost 1 2 Islamists detonate a bomb in a shop, killing one civilian.
2009.09.15 Somalia Merca 1 0 A 69-year-old Christian is executed by al-Shabaab militants after they find him carrying Bibles through their checkpoint.
2009.09.15 Italy Trieste 1 1 An 18-year-old girl dies from being stabbed in the throat by her father for falling in love with a non-Muslim.
2009.09.15 Iraq Baghdad 2 5 Jihadis fire mortars into a populated area, killing two Iraqis.
2009.09.14 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A courageous security guard loses his life defending an oil refinery against Islamic militants.
2009.09.14 Iraq Baqubah 5 5 Five people are killed in two Jihad bombings, one of which was in front of a movie theater.
2009.09.14 Iraq Mosul 3 1 A woman and her daughter are among four casualties of Mujahideen bombers.
2009.09.14 Pakistan Sialkot 1 0 A young Christian is beaten to death after being arrested for blasphemy.
2009.09.14 Iraq Mukheefa 1 0 A college student is shot to death by Muslim terrorists while walking home.
2009.09.14 Iraq Buhriz 1 1 Islamic bombers take out an antiques dealer.
2009.09.13 India Kishtwar 1 0 A civilian is shot to death by Hiz-bul-Mujahideen.
2009.09.13 Pakistan Khyber 3 2 Islamic militants kill three local soldiers in a landmine attack.
2009.09.13 Iraq Baghdad 1 4 A cafe is bombed by Mujahid, leaving at least one patron dead.
2009.09.13 Iraq Muqdadiya 2 12 Muslim terrorists set off a bomb at a market, killing two patrons.
2009.09.13 Thailand Yala 5 0 Five local security personnel are ambushed and killed by Islamic radicals while on a break.
2009.09.13 Bangladesh Dhaka 1 0 A Christian evangelist dies from injuries suffered from severe torture at the hands of a Muslim gang.
2009.09.12 Bangladesh Dhaka 1 0 A group of Muslims brutally torture and murder a young Christian student.
2009.09.12 Iraq Baghdad 4 24 A double bombing by sectarian Jihadis at a mosque leaves four dead.
2009.09.12 India Srinagar 3 10 A woman and two others are taken out be a car bomb.
2009.09.12 Pakistan Landikotal 3 0 Two brothers are among three men gunned down by Mujahideen.
2009.09.12 Iraq Baqubah 4 0 Two women are among four people blown to bits by an al-Qaeda bomb.
2009.09.12 Thailand Yala 0 0 Suspected Islamists slit a teenager's throat, then set fire to his body.
2009.09.12 Ingushetia Nazran 1 0 A prosecutor is gunned down outside his home by suspected Islamic rebels.
2009.09.11 Afghanistan Kunar 6 0 Six security guards are murdered by Mujahideen.
2009.09.11 Ingushetia Nazran 1 4 A local police officer dies from injuries suffered from a suicide bomber.
2009.09.11 Iraq Safara 5 0 Five Iraqi police are gunned down at point blank range by Muslim terrorists.
2009.09.11 Afghanistan Farah 3 0 Three civilians are killed when a Taliban rocket strikes their home.
2009.09.11 Afghanistan Kandahar 6 0 Sunni hardliners kill six civilians with a roadside bomb.
2009.09.11 Afghanistan Uruzgan 14 0 Fourteen car passengers are massacred by Taliban bombers.
2009.09.11 Somalia Mogadishu 15 27 Fifteen people, including nine disabled patients at a hospital, are killed when Islamic militia slam mortars into a neighborhood.
2009.09.11 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 0 A child is among two people blown into pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2009.09.11 Ethiopia Senbete 0 3 A Muslim mob ransacks two Christian churches and seriously injures three Christian worshippers.
2009.09.10 Afghanistan Helmand 2 4 Two civilians are murdered by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2009.09.10 Iraq Mahmudiya 4 29 A double bombing at a market leaves four patrons dead.
2009.09.10 Iraq Wardek 20 27 A Shahid suicide bomber drives a truck packed with explosives into a village, killing at least twenty innocent people.
2009.09.10 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two men are gunned down by Mujahideen in separate attacks.
2009.09.10 Jordan Aqaba 1 0 A Muslim man guns down his teenage sister for "knowing many men."
2009.09.10 Dagestan Makhachkala 2 0 Two government officials are murdered by Muslim gunmen on consecutive days.
2009.09.10 Afghanistan Kunduz 7 2 Taliban terrorists attack a police post and kill seven officers.
2009.09.10 Pakistan South Waziristan 2 4 Two public workers are killed in a Mujahideen rocket attack.
2009.09.09 Iraq Kirkuk 8 2 Women and children are among eight members of a family murdered by an al-Qaeda car bomb.
2009.09.09 Afghanistan Logar 25 0 Fifteen schoolchildren are among twenty-five innocents blown to bits by Taliban bombers.
2009.09.09 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two more Buddhist villagers are shot to death by Muslim radicals in separate attacks.
2009.09.09 Pakistan South Waziristan 1 2 Islamic radicals kill an elderly man with a bomb.
2009.09.09 Iraq Karbala 4 0 Jihadis murder four Iraqis with a roadside blast.
2009.09.09 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamists shoot a Buddhist to death in cold blood, then set fire to the body.
2009.09.08 Pakistan Orakzai 4 6 Four Shiite school children are gunned down in cold blood by Sunni extremists.
2009.09.08 Afghanistan Baghlan 1 21 Sunni terrorists murder a local cop with a bomb.
2009.09.08 Afghanistan Kabul 3 9 Three Afghan civilians are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.09.08 Iraq Baghdad 12 26 Five separate roadside attacks around the country leave a dozen Iraqis dead.
2009.09.08 Somalia Mogadishu 8 31 Eight civilians are killed when religious hardliners attack government troops.
2009.09.08 Afghanistan Nuristan 8 8 Taliban militants stage a brutal siege on two government buildings, killing eight guards in the process.
2009.09.08 Pakistan NWFP 1 1 Taliban militants kidnap a Greek professor after killing his guard.
2009.09.08 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A teacher is taken down by Islamic gunmen.
2009.09.07 Afghanistan Kabul 3 2 A family of three, including the parents and child, are wiped out by a Taliban rocket as they are sleeping in their home.
2009.09.07 Iraq Baqubah 6 9 Six Shiites are blown to bits by a Sunni Shahid at a mosque.
2009.09.07 Iraq Karbala 4 8 Islamists blow up a passenger bus, killing four.
2009.09.07 Afghanistan Uruzgan 1 20 A child loses his life to shrapnel injuries from after an attack by Sunni terrorists.
2009.09.07 Iraq Ramadi 9 13 A Shahid suicide bomber blows nine Iraqis straight to Allah.
2009.09.07 Pakistan South Waziristan 5 0 Taliban militants take out five local soldiers in a roadside attack.
2009.09.07 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 An oil company employee is killed in a drive-by Mujahideen shooting.
2009.09.06 Chechnya Grozny 1 0 Islamic militants shoot a young traffic policeman to death.
2009.09.06 Thailand Yala 3 0 A 61-man is mowed down along with his son and daughter in an automatic weapons attack by Islamic separatists.
2009.09.06 Pakistan Mirpurkhas 1 0 A pregnant woman is shot to death by Sunnis for switching to the Shia sect.
2009.09.06 Iraq Mosul 2 0 An elderly woman and her 3-year-old granddaughter are successfully taken out in their home by Mujahideen gunmen.
2009.09.06 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A man and his son are murdered by Jihadi roadside bombers.
2009.09.06 Iraq Baghdad 1 6 A civilian is killed in a Jihad bombing.
2009.09.05 Afghanistan Kunar 2 3 Two women are killed by a Taliban mortar attack on their neighborhood.
2009.09.05 Pakistan Swat 2 1 Holy Warriors gun down two brothers outside their home.
2009.09.05 Somalia Mogadishu 6 18 Children are among the dead when al-Shabaab Islamists stage an attack in a residential area.
2009.09.05 Thailand Yala 1 1 A Buddhist rubber tapper is gunned down by Muslim radicals.
2009.09.05 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 A 62-year-old man is abducted, bound and executed by Mujahideen.
2009.09.04 Thailand Yala 1 12 A policeman is burned alive in his car by Jihadis outside a restaurant.
2009.09.04 Afghanistan Nimroz 3 0 Three security guards are murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.09.04 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 Two local police are gunned down point-blank by Islamic gunmen while sitting in their car.
2009.09.04 Ingushetia Dattykh 3 2 Islamic militants murder three local police with a roadside bomb.
2009.09.04 Thailand Pattani 2 0 A man and his 15-year-old son are slaughtered by Mujahid gu

2009.11.03 (Hadramut, Yemen) - al-Qadea militants open fire on a vehicle, machine-gunning five people to death.
2009.11.02 (Glendale, AZ, USA) - A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.'
2009.11.02 (Narathiwat, Thailand) - Islamists break into a house and murder a villager.
2009.11.02 (Yala, Thailand) - Two men are killed in a Religion of Peace drive-by.
2009.11.02 (Lahore, Pakistan) - Twenty-five people are injured when a suicide bomber detonates along a city street.
2009.11.02 (Khanaqin, Iraq) - A man and his son are gunned down by Muslim terrorists.
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Well as long as we understand each other. I'm looking at religion in context of the followers, whilst you're looking at it in the context of scripture. Hence you probably don't have 'extreme' and 'moderate' forms of a religion, just followers. If that's the case, then I don't think there's anything wrong with that stance, even if I don't share it. ;)
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I think it’s fair to say that the Islamic extremism on our planet is growing an alarming rate and pussy footing around trying not to offend “Moderate Muslims” is just political correctness gone crazy.

Let’s cut to the chase, Islamic extremists are protected by Imams and mosques worldwide, most of our home grown Islamic terrorism (second/third generation British born Muslims) is propagated in Mosques, I am well aware that there are Moderate Muslims in this country but they need to make their “moderate” voice heard because it is being drowned out by bearded fruitcakes preaching hate.

I remember 9/11 quite clearly and the huge death toll but do not recall Muslims taking to the street to voice their abhorrence at the terrorist attack and yet when some dare to draw a cartoon of the prophet Mohammed there was thousands on the streets calling for the beheading of those who insult Islam.

Where is the f**king moderation??
Islam is not a religion it’s a f**king cult, I am still waiting for David Koresh to appear!!
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I said those that allow the perpetuation of paedophilia to be a sick race of people, I never said those that oppose it were, massive difference.


Yes, a sick race of people.

Clearly nothing racially intended aye Irishcomrad? lol
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
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I said those that allow the perpetuation of paedophilia to be a sick race of people, I never said those that oppose it were, massive difference.


Yes, a sick race of people.

Clearly nothing racially intended aye Irishcomrad? lol
are muslim extremists not a race of people? do they not share charachteristics? constitution (as written by the taliban or al quaida or mohammad)?

The historical definition of race is an immutable and distinct type or species, sharing distinct racial characteristics such as constitution, temperament, and mental abilities.

You cant beat me on the race card my wife is asian and her culture is suffering from the same murderous islamic fanatics as we are

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Well as long as we understand each other. I'm looking at religion in context of the followers, whilst you're looking at it in the context of scripture. Hence you probably don't have 'extreme' and 'moderate' forms of a religion, just followers. If that's the case, then I don't think there's anything wrong with that stance, even if I don't share it. ;)
Religion in the context of followers? Al quaida? Taliban? how do they follow? what part do they follow?

You have lost me on that one please elaborate
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Irishcomrad:

LOL!

Muslims are not a race of people, they are a group of religious people. Muslims can be Arab, Persian, Berber, African, Egyptian, Indian, Turkish, etc....

There is no racial or genetic characteristics that distinguish muslims from anyone else to be called a distinctive race. Argue this to a geneticist and they will laugh at you.
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I think you are both creeping away from the debate, I am not interested in dictionary definitions of particular words.

Islamic extremist is a huge worldwide problem which is growing fast and must be nipped in the bud on our shores before we are making long lists of atrocities carried out here in the UK over the past two months.
Islam is not a religion it’s a f**king cult, I am still waiting for David Koresh to appear!!
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If our home grown wanna be terrorists, second/third generation British born Muslims were really keen on Jihad, they would have already f**ked off to Afghanistan/Pakistan/Somalia or one of the many other countries which so desperately require their services, but of course they don’t, because they truly don’t have any f**king idea what shariah law would mean to their comfortable Western lives, the Lexus would have to go Mohammed!!!!!
Islam is not a religion it’s a f**king cult, I am still waiting for David Koresh to appear!!
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lol I agree Paul.

Most of them would have no clue what sharia is like in practice.

Though I don't think this is a case of naivity, I think many of them are trying to bring that sharia here whether we like it or not. They are doing the same nonsense in India and Thailand where it's not welcome.
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Irishcomrad:

LOL!

Muslims are not a race of people, they are a group of religious people. Muslims can be Arab, Persian, Berber, African, Egyptian, Indian, Turkish, etc....

There is no racial or genetic characteristics that distinguish muslims from anyone else to be called a distinctive race. Argue this to a geneticist and they will laugh at you.
Race is an ideological construct which is instrumentalized or operationalized through social and institutional processes.

Therefore Muslims can be a race even if they are black, brown, yellow or white.

But you being a dummy dont see that side you seem to think race is an essence or something that is fixed, concrete, and objective when muslims the world over share certain social charachteristics that make them a race in the same way the human race is coined
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Irishcomrad:

Childish insults aside, where did you get your information that race is an 'ideological construct'?

Dictionary definitions of racism:

1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Race

Where does it say ideological construct? lol

Edit - I think the point of ideological construct you are talking about has to do with racial supremacy or racism, not the different races of people on this planet.
Edited by AgeofEnlightenment, Nov 4 2009, 02:38 PM.
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They have more chance of getting an elephant up their ass than getting Shariah law in India, my wife is Indian and my knowledge of Indians and their Hindu/Sikh faith is that they are fiercely religious and the tiny minority of Muslims in India will have no chance, because unlike the weak willed Brits, if you f**k around with Hindu’s on their own turf they will f**k you up.
Islam is not a religion it’s a f**king cult, I am still waiting for David Koresh to appear!!
This is my opinion and does not reflect the opinion of the EDL.
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That is true, but Indians need to be careful because there is some nationalistic hindu movements in India that are causing conflict between hindus and sikhs, and some even go to the extreme of supporting Adolf Hitler's racial supremacist ideas.

Though that is more of a local problem, not a global problem like the islamic terrorist/jihadist networks.
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True enough but I think they are the Indian version of a hillbilly.

In fact they are probably still called BillyBob, Cleatus or something similar
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Islam is not a religion it’s a f**king cult, I am still waiting for David Koresh to appear!!
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Over generations races have evolved their own ideological constructs, islam has taken that all over the globe for others to buy into and join.

I called you dummy due to your patranising LOL statement on your earlier thread. Touche
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Irrlevent to discussion - I see AofE has changed his avatar - Saxon, man, you have good taste in music! Seen them twice and definitely one of the best to watch live.

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Religion in the context of followers? Al quaida? Taliban? how do they follow? what part do they follow?

You have lost me on that one please elaborate


What I mean is - it's the followers that make the religion - so as you get several different types of followers and you also get different sects. So a religion to me would split based around different interpretations and we can categorise them into smaller groups, like how I did it earlier - 'extreme Islam' and 'moderate Islam'. No sect or interpretation can really reflect the religion as a whole.
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Does my laughter insult you Irishcomrad? Didn't know you were so sensitive.

Islam is not a racially evolved religion, islam is a religion that evolved from pre-islamic Arab paganism, judeo-christian scripture, and ancient Greek/Persian/Indian science.

Nothing racially motivated about it, just a reactionary religion to the cultures that surrounded mohammad in his time.
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Irrlevent to discussion - I see AofE has changed his avatar - Saxon, man, you have good taste in music! Seen them twice and definitely one of the best to watch live.
Previous one was the album cover of 'In for the Kill' by Welsh rock band Budgie.

Few people have heard of them, a band with an excellent guitarist who influenced famous acts like Metallica ;)

Edit - if you want to discuss music just PM me.
Edited by AgeofEnlightenment, Nov 4 2009, 03:16 PM.
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Just to add - race and religion have always been separate - I don't see how 'belief' effects race, the concepts are very different, it's just 'race' is often misused because people consider 'Muslim' and 'Jew' as races - you'd never refer to my atheist buddhism as race, because my race is white-British. If I were to convert to Islam tomorrow, I'd still be white-British. Also, I'm not part Catholic because my Nan is Catholic, but I am part Irish, because she's Irish. ;)

When people say 'Muslim' they often mean Arab and when they say Jew, they often mean 'semite' or 'of semitic ancestry'.
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Islam is NOT a race its an IDEOLOGY! Now when people try to contort the real definition of race this becomes not only problematic but it also becomes a racial slur in itself! People can't have it both ways and contradict themselves by applying different definitions to suit their arguments/agendas. Doing so reeks of hypocricy.
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i cant help feelingthe muslims looking at the EDL site must be pissing themselfs laughing, as we brainwash ourselfs with teachings and scriptures of the khoran n there phrofets , all fxxxin kiddie fidlers must be slain
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Nemisis got it in one hit!

Tonyloco:

They can laugh all they like, doesn't bother me at all.
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Does my laughter insult you Irishcomrad? Didn't know you were so sensitive.

Islam is not a racially evolved religion, islam is a religion that evolved from pre-islamic Arab paganism, judeo-christian scripture, and ancient Greek/Persian/Indian science.

Nothing racially motivated about it, just a reactionary religion to the cultures that surrounded mohammad in his time.
No, never said your laughter did insult me, I was just referring to your sensitive remarks regards to "childish insults aside" I never realised you were insulted
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rofl. Yes saying that you make childish and infantile remarks can only mean someone is sensitive, as opposed to thinking you're an idiot for doing so. The most ironic thing about your arguments is that you desperately tried to argue that muslims are a race of people, a typical piece of taqiyya itself that muslims use to try and stifle debate and shut down any criticism of their religion. The only reason you even support this argument (yet I bet elsewhere you would criticse a muslim for thinking islam is a race) is because you made a complete asshat out of yourself, made a racially-motivated comment which justifiably earned you a warning. Nice job on that one.

You try arguing to any member here that islam is a race of people. Good luck lol.

If you've got nothing better to say than "NO U" and similar kindergarten-esque responses, I think the debate is over and I'll be moving on to something far more worthwhile.
Edited by AgeofEnlightenment, Nov 4 2009, 05:33 PM.
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I have plenty to say and will i will express it no matter how many acronyns you throw around
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rofl. Yes saying that you make childish and infantile remarks can only mean someone is sensitive, as opposed to thinking you're an idiot for doing so. The most ironic thing about your arguments is that you desperately tried to argue that muslims are a race of people, a typical piece of taqiyya itself that muslims use to try and stifle debate and shut down any criticism of their religion. The only reason you even support this argument (yet I bet elsewhere you would criticse a muslim for thinking islam is a race) is because you made a complete asshat out of yourself, made a racially-motivated comment which justifiably earned you a warning. Nice job on that one.

You try arguing to any member here that islam is a race of people. Good luck lol.

If you've got nothing better to say than "NO U" and similar kindergarten-esque responses, I think the debate is over and I'll be moving on to something far more worthwhile.
Truth is I said race when I obviously meant culture, gang, ideology or whatever, you knew what I meant, I understood race at the time to be a race of ideals, standards, attitudes etc, if I got that wrong whupty doo, hey and you know what I may even make another mistake before my life is done but do you know what? I will never allow little people who do not make allowances for wrong words or bad spellings etc like you to condemn my mistakes because that would be wrong.

If I ever become as perfect and make no errors on these boards or life in general as you obviously think you do then please someone shoot me because i dont want to be like you.

Many times people have debated things with me that have had some slight errors therein but unlike you I do not go off the argument to try and belittle someone because they made a mistake on something as trivial as you have and so far off point of the original debate. I believe that is because you lack a certain level of dignity and humanity and get thrilled by undermining people for slight mistakes.
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lol.

Either your communication skills are poor, or this is a cover up for a argument of shifting the goal posts. Nothing to do with perfection, just try this nonsense with anyone Irishcomrad and see how they react.

What goes around comes around.
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lol.

Either your communication skills are poor, or this is a cover up for a argument of shifting the goal posts. Nothing to do with perfection, just try this nonsense with anyone Irishcomrad and see how they react.

What goes around comes around.
My communicatios skills are ok thanks, I have had many communications and if there is a mistake they have had the grace and goodwill to explain and if I think that is ok I will take it on board and if i do not i wont.

I mentioned muslims as a race but you seem to think that you can then try and undermine me so excessively for this mistake behind a keyboard in a far off place, maybe that is how you get your thrills by berating peoples mistakes in a little place hidden away, maybe you wouldnt be so brave face to face, bullies are always the most cowardice amongst us
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Yes, being a moderator and dealing with peoples tantrums is just so thrilling, you have such a clear grasp on reality it's astonishing.

Sarcasm aside, try thinking about things from my perspective. I'm a moderator who has to deal with people having irrational and emotional fits and calling it their argument, people who use rage, ingestment of alcohol, or race/religion as a guise to say some pretty stupid and bigotted things about people of other racial or religious groups.

Then I have to deal with people who have purely thuggish mentalities, reasoning with them is like arguing with a wall. This is also long before we get to infiltrators from neo-nazi and other extreme groups. So you actually have no clue as to where I come from on this.

Given the comments you made about me, the endless ad hominems and such early on in this debate and your irrational comments racially aimed at muslims all I can say to you is this as I said earlier:

What goes around comes around. If you don't like this behaviour then don't do it yourself. Having unrealistic expectations that people are to be jolly and wonderful towards you after you act like a prick is not my problem, but yours.
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Yes, being a moderator and dealing with peoples tantrums is just so thrilling, you have such a clear grasp on reality it's astonishing.

Sarcasm aside, try thinking about things from my perspective. I'm a moderator who has to deal with people having irrational and emotional fits and calling it their argument, people who use rage, ingestment of alcohol, or race/religion as a guise to say some pretty stupid and bigotted things about people of other racial or religious groups.

Then I have to deal with people who have purely thuggish mentalities, reasoning with them is like arguing with a wall. This is also long before we get to infiltrators from neo-nazi and other extreme groups. So you actually have no clue as to where I come from on this.

Given the comments you made about me, the endless ad hominems and such early on in this debate and your irrational comments racially aimed at muslims all I can say to you is this as I said earlier:

What goes around comes around. If you don't like this behaviour then don't do it yourself. Having unrealistic expectations that people are to be jolly and wonderful towards you after you act like a prick is not my problem, but yours.
This little bit of power you have been given has obviously gone to your head. Playing the race card with your "bigoted" comment will not do either, my wife is Asian, are you sure you are not UAF LOL (Acronym for you).
And it seems to be that it is you yourself who is having the tantrum about a word I misinterpreted.

Did you notice some rage when I mentioned the heinous activities of the extremists ahhh so sorry to scare you with my rage ahhhggggrrrh I’m so full of rage and now AOE is being harsh, ahhh what to do, what to do

Also this so called rage with regards to alcohol, can you smell my breath?

Stating the realities regards to extremists does not mean you have the right to make judgements that it is thuggish behaviour, I think you need moderating because you have turned into a jumped up little hitler.
Everyone be nice, very nice or I will tell you off but guess what we are here to express our disgust with the most heinous murderers amongst us so get over your self righteous self

Also to make naughty swear words and bad comments to me behind your little desk does not make you a hero it just means that you have lost the plot and are now wielding your self perceived power over trivial matters perceived to be bigoted and racist when they are definitely not. I am fighting for my “mixed raced kids future” and I don’t need jobsworths like you bullying and condemning me because I made a mistake, do you think that man in the picture of your avatar is you? well mate its not.
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Since where did I make the assertion that you fit all of what I was talking about? Yes giving examples of some peoples behaviour on this forum must mean it's about you, way to take things personally again Mr sensitive :)

Swear all you like, it's nothing I worry about particularly and mentioning this is a red herring, as I didn't pull you up for swearing but for using racist language. Get over it. Calling me a little Hitler while using inquisitorial assumptions about me being UAF is itself laughable. By the way this is the internet so get used to acronyms, heck you even use them so I don't see why you are whining about it.

I only issue warnings when people make comments that are prejudicial, racist, are incitements to violence, etc... your comment fits exactly that first definition, even if you didn't mean 'race' you are making repeated sweeping and generalistic statements about muslims more than once and others have been banned for doing this, not by me by the way but by every other member of staff.

Also there are people out there who make racist remarks while putting their arms around a black or asian person claiming they are a friend/relative/partner and therefore they're not racist, but frankly it doesn't change that at the end of the day you made a remark that the EDL will not stand for. If a member infiltrated these forums and wanted to find stuff to quote mine us on to shame us and make us look fascist/racist they would have readily jumped on your comment and if I didn't respond by saying you are receiving a warning for it, they would get away with it. Any other moderator would have told you off for repeatedly using that kind of language here, and other members have received similar warnings from other moderators and admins. Your case is no different so get over it.

As for my picture; No it's not me, it's not you either by the way B-) , it's an album cover of the debut album by a band called Saxon. Look them up when you get the chance.
Edited by AgeofEnlightenment, Nov 4 2009, 06:52 PM.
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Since where did I make the assertion that you fit all of what I was talking about? Yes giving examples of some peoples behaviour on this forum must mean it's about you, way to take things personally again Mr sensitive :)

Swear all you like, it's nothing I worry about particularly and mentioning this is a red herring, as I didn't pull you up for swearing but for using racist language. Get over it. Calling me a little Hitler while using inquisitorial assumptions about me being UAF is itself laughable. By the way this is the internet so get used to acronyms, heck you even use them so I don't see why you are whining about it.

I only issue warnings when people make comments that are prejudicial, racist, are incitements to violence, etc... your comment fits exactly that first definition, even if you didn't mean 'race' you are making repeated sweeping and generalistic statements about muslims more than once and others have been banned for doing this, not by me by the way but by every other member of staff.

Also there are people out there who make racist remarks while putting their arms around a black or asian person claiming they are a friend/relative/partner and therefore they're not racist, but frankly it doesn't change that at the end of the day you made a remark that the EDL will not stand for. If a member infiltrated these forums and wanted to find stuff to quote mine us on to shame us and make us look fascist/racist they would have readily jumped on your comment and if I didn't respond by saying you are receiving a warning for it, they would get away with it. Any other moderator would have told you off for repeatedly using that kind of language here, and other members have received similar warnings from other moderators and admins. Your case is no different so get over it.

As for my picture; No it's not me, it's not you either by the way B-) , it's an album cover of the debut album by a band called Saxon. Look them up when you get the chance.
There you go again blah blah blah, of course I knew it was not you in the avatar I was being facetious.

There you go again blah blah blah, of course I knew it was not you in the avatar I was being facetious.

OK the point you got me on was this:

"They truly are a sick race of people who allow this norm to perpetuate through their lives as nonchalantly as it does"

This statement you say was a racist comment.
That is when you got me on "race" and went rather overkill

But please take into account; I said those that "ALLOW" the perpetuation of paedophilia to be a sick race of people, I never said those that oppose it were, massive difference.

Being a moderator is a noble and worthy cause but be careful you do not fragment the group before it has formed or we will have no power whatsoever

Also are you suggesting that I am racist and don’t really love my wife and mixed race kids? because if you do then that as offended me more than you can believe to imagine and one I want an immediate apology for right now.




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I'm not saying you don't love anyone of a different race, just saying that some people out there have used members of other races to claim they aren't racist while supporting racist views. This means that people even genuine ones can slip up and make a racist comment without realising it, so it is why I issued a warning and why I didn't do it a second time because you are repeating the same error.

So just keep in mind I am not your enemy, and that by saying you should keep your sentence structuring in mind I am not trying to wield some kind of gestapo-esque attitude. That IS more extreme than comparying a schoolyard bully to Hitler :P

I know people out there on the internet that are far, far more extreme than I could ever hope to be.* The kinds of people that would not only delete every single post of yours, but would ban you from the forum, use your IP address to find out your personal details and post a complete smear campaign about you on a website like Encyclopedia Dramatica and ruin your life.

That is gestapo-esque, so please don't lump me in the same category as those kinds of twats :P

Edit - typo
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They have more chance of getting an elephant up their ass than getting Shariah law in India, my wife is Indian and my knowledge of Indians and their Hindu/Sikh faith is that they are fiercely religious and the tiny minority of Muslims in India will have no chance, because unlike the weak willed Brits, if you f**k around with Hindu’s on their own turf they will f**k you up.
Are you familiar with the Calcutta Qur’an Petition?

http://voi.org/books/tcqp/

The heroic story of the Quran petition
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/Sundaram60315.htm
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Well as long as we understand each other. I'm looking at religion in context of the followers, whilst you're looking at it in the context of scripture. Hence you probably don't have 'extreme' and 'moderate' forms of a religion, just followers. If that's the case, then I don't think there's anything wrong with that stance, even if I don't share it. ;)
The Islamic supremacist agenda is encapsulated in the ancient dictum that "Islam must dominate, and not be dominated." There is no sect or school of Islamic jurisprudence that teaches that Muslims, "the best of people" (Qur'an 3:110), must live peacefully as equals with unbelievers, "the most vile of created beings" (Qur'an 98:6). Rather, unbelievers must be subjugated under the rule of Islamic law and "feel themselves subdued" (Qur'an 9:29).

With this in mind, why wouldn’t you share the view that ‘extreme’ and ‘moderate’ forms of Islam are a fallacy?
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