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UAF my personal rant.
Topic Started: Sep 30 2009, 03:27 AM (363 Views)
southwales
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People new to the EDl or another patriotic parties are probily aware what the UAF are and what they stand for.
The UAF come across as an organistion to stop racism and fascism who are united by every organisation which they do not agree with.
The simple fact is the UAF are the socialist workers party.
http://www.swp.org.uk/
Many key figures on the SWP are also leaders speakers of the UAF, Weyman bennett and martin smith for example. As well as other low key UAF swp activists.

The groups UAF and other "anti fascist" organisations generally protest patriot groups to which some are nazi. Which is fair enough because neo nazi groups must expect protests.
How it is clear any political group who is patriotic comes under there definition of fascism even the EDL who clearly burn swastikas and have black members etc.

The SWP has a secret adgenda and a dark side, Many SWP are also involved with extreme communist and anarchist groups.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3fTNfpZUKE&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DRSDiaYHBM
For example everytime there is a solidarity leftish meet the SWP UAF will be marching together with such groups as the communist party, antifa(militant "anti fascism" Class war (militant and political communist anarchist group.

Now if the parties, groups, fronts the SWP(UAF) came to power they will limit our speech even more, They will turn Britain communist, They will completely open the boaders and they will try and eradicate national pride.

It is so important that the EDL and loan wolfs expose the UAF because they are sucking in members who have no idea about the socialist marxist adgenda.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

Freedom is not free.
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Isn't David Cameron a major UAF supporter?
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UAF frothing at the mouth again.

Note the ad hominem attacks and unsubstantiated knee-jerk use of the 'racist' and 'Islamophobic' taunts. http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/521/Calling-the-EDL-what-it-is

Obviously 'racist' means exactly what the UAF wants it to mean, and 'Islamophobia' is a ridiculous accusation.

A phobia is an irrational fear. But there's nothing irrational about the fear of being blown up in a bus by some inbred, psychopathic paedo-worshipping head-banger who can't get women in this life and so decides to opt for a 72-year-old virgin in the next.
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The UAF and SWP are a group of stooges used by others who have a secret agenda.In the eighties these groups were infilterated by GRU Spetsnaz agents who steered them in the way the Soviets wanted things to go.Spetsnaz also infilterated the Greenham Common women's "peace camp" and other such subversive organisations.Its just history repeating itself and now they have been infilterated by Muslim terrorists who use them to try and make their own cause look slightly respectable.
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U.A.F what a joke made up of Marxists,extremist Muslims and university trustafarians whose mummy and daddy supports them financially while playing at revolutionaries then when they graduate they go work for the guardian or channel 4 earning more money than we could hope to earn. just a bunch of whores
Edited by invaliduser, Sep 30 2009, 11:15 AM.
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When the UAF are not ranting about fascism they rant about the ruling class under the SWP banner, However when the UAF SWP supports leave uni and get a job they suddenly get over the whole working class thing.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

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Basically the UAF are a bunch of hypocritical,middle class scumbags.
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how can i be an islamophobe?

i'm not scared of islam
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antifa like red action before them do not go hand in hand with either the swp or uaf as they see them as state as they do gable and co. which is why most uaf are spoilt little rich kids just playing with the left to be trendy. the sooner they get a kick up the arse the better anifa have turned up at some edl demo's but have not done much due to lack of numbers and organisation unfortunatly looking on indymedia that may change as it seems they are trying to organise in small groups to attack lone edl members this would be laughable but as that bnp bloke found they dont attack with fists but with hammers so f**k uaf but please all be carefull at future demo's ensure your meeting other lads as over confidance can be a downfall
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tony j
Nov 9 2009, 01:17 AM
antifa like red action before them do not go hand in hand with either the swp or uaf as they see them as state as they do gable and co. which is why most uaf are spoilt little rich kids just playing with the left to be trendy. the sooner they get a kick up the arse the better anifa have turned up at some edl demo's but have not done much due to lack of numbers and organisation unfortunatly looking on indymedia that may change as it seems they are trying to organise in small groups to attack lone edl members this would be laughable but as that bnp bloke found they dont attack with fists but with hammers so f**k uaf but please all be carefull at future demo's ensure your meeting other lads as over confidance can be a downfall
Yeh people do need to be carefull at future demos, like tony j has said the f**kers are thinking of changing tactics to wondering about in small(ish) groups and picking off lone EDL.

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on another note, I believe we would be best served by organized seperately from UAF. In Manchester there were at least 150-200 people there who were capable of causing the EDL some real problems. If these were split into groups of between 30-50 people, who could roam around without being penned in by police and UAF stewards, it would be possible to pick off the small groups of EDL before they arrive in the city centres and consolidate, like what happened in manchester. Early in the day they numbered no more than 50 in any group and were scattered around manchester, but when they were allowed to meet up with their other comrades they ended up with around 700 or so people. We cannot beat 700 football hooligans. In a straight fight, the EDL in leeds would've destroyed the UAF counter demo, despite the 300 or so numerical advantage. In Manchester the UAF had a bigger turnout, around 2,000 at it's peak, and with a 3:1 manpower advantage we may have been able to physically beat them, but due to the incompetence of the UAF and the brutality of the police this was prevented from happening.

People should basically organize themselves into groups of between 30-50, stay away from the police and UAF, organize spotters at the train stations, and lay low until they recieve word of stray fascists away from the police. When they get the nod, turn them over, and disperse. Get drivers and escape routes planned in advance.

Also, motorbikes are very useful. In Germany gangs of 50 or so motorcyclists have been known to turn up at demos wearing crash helmets, stab vests and steel-toe boots, batter some fascists, get back on their bikes and disperse seperately preventing the police from following. It's very hard to knock someone out when they've got a crash helmet on.

This is the kind of thinking we need if we are to beat the EDL physically. No parasan


Taken from Indymedia link to full page HERE

Like tony also stated antifa and their ilk are f**kwits who use hammers like in this video HERE
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southwales
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Antifa are a joke, Basically they are the "antifascist" arm of Anarchist federation. They are also extremely involved with class war an Anarchist communism anti capitalist organisation.

These groups believe in direct action instead of peace and democracy which some "antifascists" support.

The actaul membership and level of support for antifa is unknown in the UK.

Elsewhere in europe antifa is a main "antifascist" organisation partically in places like germany, Russia, and Italy. These part's of europe Fascist's and Anti fascists have caused nothing but misery on these nations streets.

Like the Extreme Right Antifa exist in the shadow of populist groups such as UAF. Simular to neo nazi's existing in the EDL however we try are best to rid the extreme unlike UAF who are happy for the extremists to tag along.
Edited by southwales, Nov 9 2009, 06:28 AM.
If the Goverment had listened to the British and white working class concern about Islam in British and White working class communities than maybe the EDL would not of formed. All we want is a voice to express our opinions without being regarded a "racist" or "islamaphobe" but then again the goverment depends on devision in poor communities.

Freedom is not free.
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I post a lot of links
as they say the only good red is a dead red..... wish thtcher was 30 years younger now she would show how to handle them and there muslim bombing cowardly freinds
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Nov 9 2009, 01:50 AM
Yeh people do need to be carefull at future demos, like tony j has said the f**kers are thinking of changing tactics to wondering about in small(ish) groups and picking off lone EDL.

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People should basically organize themselves into groups of between 30-50, stay away from the police and UAF, organize spotters at the train stations, and lay low until they recieve word of stray fascists away from the police. When they get the nod, turn them over, and disperse. Get drivers and escape routes planned in advance.

Also, motorbikes are very useful. In Germany gangs of 50 or so motorcyclists have been known to turn up at demos wearing crash helmets, stab vests and steel-toe boots, batter some fascists, get back on their bikes and disperse seperately preventing the police from following. It's very hard to knock someone out when they've got a crash helmet on.

This is the kind of thinking we need if we are to beat the EDL physically. No parasan


Taken from Indymedia link to full page HERE

Like tony also stated antifa and their ilk are f**kwits who use hammers like in this video HERE
Surely the police/ISP should be informed about this website?
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expat
Nov 9 2009, 07:02 AM
as they say the only good red is a dead red..... wish thtcher was 30 years younger now she would show how to handle them and there muslim bombing cowardly freinds
What like she showed the I.R.A. and Libya . Move your tongue from maggie's butt. Do you really think she was some kind of hero
A WAY OUT FOR YOU NAZI SCUM THATS INFILTRATED THE EDL
http://www.stormfront.org/
http://www.uaf.org.uk/
http://www.islam4uk.com/
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Nov 9 2009, 08:36 AM
RobBUAfb
Nov 9 2009, 01:50 AM
Yeh people do need to be carefull at future demos, like tony j has said the f**kers are thinking of changing tactics to wondering about in small(ish) groups and picking off lone EDL.

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People should basically organize themselves into groups of between 30-50, stay away from the police and UAF, organize spotters at the train stations, and lay low until they recieve word of stray fascists away from the police. When they get the nod, turn them over, and disperse. Get drivers and escape routes planned in advance.

Also, motorbikes are very useful. In Germany gangs of 50 or so motorcyclists have been known to turn up at demos wearing crash helmets, stab vests and steel-toe boots, batter some fascists, get back on their bikes and disperse seperately preventing the police from following. It's very hard to knock someone out when they've got a crash helmet on.

This is the kind of thinking we need if we are to beat the EDL physically. No parasan


Taken from Indymedia link to full page HERE

Like tony also stated antifa and their ilk are f**kwits who use hammers like in this video HERE
Surely the police/ISP should be informed about this website?
I'm sure they are watching indymedia mate, just like they are watching this site.

Indymedia is stupid really as it's just a fountain of intelligence for the authorities, people can say this forum is also but we have nothing to hide. Whereas they do.
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charlie
Nov 9 2009, 10:48 AM
expat
Nov 9 2009, 07:02 AM
as they say the only good red is a dead red..... wish thtcher was 30 years younger now she would show how to handle them and there muslim bombing cowardly freinds
What like she showed the I.R.A. and Libya . Move your tongue from maggie's butt. Do you really think she was some kind of hero
She was a complete an utter c**t and would do absolutely nothing in today's climate.
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Nov 9 2009, 08:00 PM
She was a complete an utter c**t and would do absolutely nothing in today's climate.[/quote]As much as I despise the woman, she would actually do something. SHe was mad FFS.

If she was Gordon Brown and know she was going to lose the election she would have started a war. She did it in the Flaklands, before war started a few months before it she was happy to give it back. (well documentated so don't flame me for that).

I didn't like her, YES, the country need modernising but not the way it was done. She was power mad so would have done something.
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Margaret Thatcher didn't start the Falkland war. The Argentinian Junta took an opportunity to invade. Thatcher reacted only after the invasion had taken place.
If there is any blame for the Falkland war it is with Labour that gave the Argentinians the idea that we wouldn't fight for the islands and would hand over the islands on their request.

Atheist you have an extremely short memory. The country, before the Thatcher administration was bankrupt. Our industry could not compete with even European manufacturers. Inflation was running at 27% , the IMF had to step into run the economy. The country was paralyzed with strikes. We had horrible things like pay restraint, collective pay bargaining. The labour party was being controlled by the Kremlin who were intent on destroying the country by whatever means.

Thatcher's policies were indeed painful, They would have been less painful if certain unions had worked with the government instead of opposing the government. Scargill another extreme leftwing communist bastard was the one that really desttroyed the coal industry by preventing the unions from negotiating to save some of the pits from closure instead of trying to not just stop closures but even up pay demands. I remember it well and hated every minute of what the left did to our country in those days. Yes, the solution was painful, extremely painful for many communities but very necessary.

She was a politician for her time. Her style and approach wouldn't work now and even I wouldn't want her back.

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Nov 9 2009, 06:26 AM
Antifa are a joke, Basically they are the "antifascist" arm of Anarchist federation. They are also extremely involved with class war an Anarchist communism anti capitalist organisation.

These groups believe in direct action instead of peace and democracy which some "antifascists" support.

The actaul membership and level of support for antifa is unknown in the UK.

Elsewhere in europe antifa is a main "antifascist" organisation partically in places like germany, Russia, and Italy. These part's of europe Fascist's and Anti fascists have caused nothing but misery on these nations streets.

Like the Extreme Right Antifa exist in the shadow of populist groups such as UAF. Simular to neo nazi's existing in the EDL however we try are best to rid the extreme unlike UAF who are happy for the extremists to tag along.
actually most anarchists are more intreasted in smashing shop windows and throwing stuff at ob than attacking political opponants yes some are involved with antifa but so are some alf. your statment concerning antifa jumping on uaf marches is a bit naive apart from the hate between antifa and uaf and the fact antifa have been around longer they normally do not sit chanting they normally are out looking for stragglers to attack.which is why in my previous post i said any lone edl should try to meet up with other groups of lads to avoid being jumped by antifa.they may be a joke as you state but i doubt many will find it funny if caught alone by them c**ts , they may only be a few hundred strong but they still need to be avoided if alone so all stay safe and be carefull
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