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Are U.S. students really that bad?
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Evil May 18 2009, 04:32 PM Post #1
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WASHINGTON – America's moms and dads are getting a good scolding: Your kids are lagging behind students all around the world.

The White House says so, with concern bordering on alarm. So do institutions such as the Gates Foundation, citing performance tests, graduation rates and other benchmarks.

But don't measure for dunce caps just yet.

While they're not in first place, U.S. students generally hold their own on international tests. They spend more time in school than the Obama administration would have you believe. And their college graduation rates stack up better than reported.

That is not to say the critics are totally wet, that the U.S. can't do better.

Only about one-third of U.S. students could read and do math at current grade levels on national tests in 2007, the most recent figures available. That means millions of kids are a long way from reaching the ambitious goal of former President George W. Bush's No Child Left Behind law — that every student read and do math on grade level by 2014.

And the high school dropout rate is dismal — 1 in 4 kids.


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The United States may have more instructional hours per day, but in countries like China, you go to school every year long, and they are more smarter the the students of the US.

This is just another attempt to battle against the smart people that think that the United States is a more terrible country.
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People's Republic of Bandora May 19 2009, 02:37 AM Post #3
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It isn't the length of time one spends in school, it is how the time is used. Also, education is generally free everywhere else in the world but not the U.S., so some of these drop out rates may be due to lack of finances.

Our culture also has something to do with this, as the U.S. tends to be a consuming, selfish society. We expect to just be given what we want and in great amounts, just look at spoiled brats who think they'll pass a class just by being pretty or well off monetarily. The same could be said for jocks, especially football and basketball players. These teachers let them pass so as not to upset school pride or their own reputation, since they figure I may as well let them fail a class because they'll more than make up for it on the field/court.

We also stress that education is important but we don't hold that to a candle. The truth is, you get the job you want - not from your degree - but from who you know. People talk but don't back it up, and kids eventually see through this and don't see the point in even trying. Even worse is, a lot of kids think, "I'm getting the same diploma if I get all D's instead of A's, the only difference is I have more time to do what I want to do.".

Ultimately a lot has to change, and it will take more than what the Bush Administration said it would. It will take, at least, half a century (50 years).
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