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Putting the foundations of a left-defender organization
Topic Started: 10 Jan 2014, 19:32 (1,037 Views)
Grobladonia
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Greetings Comrades. For a long time now I have believed that one of the things the NS left needs is a defensive organization of its own. True, there are mixed R/D organizations out there like The Red Fleet, but they don't really permit people to opt out of raiding. This leaves the more defensively minded players on the left with few options, regardless of their desire to help out fellow leftist regions. I know this because I am one such player and I am convinced that I am not the only one. There is likely a significant pool of potential recruits for a left-defender organization that remains untapped at the moment.

For this reason I want to begin the process of founding a left-defender organization and I want to start that here in the DSA. While this organization will not be directly affiliated with the DSA in any way and won't become its military wing I believe that this is a good place to start. It is the largest leftist region in NS and many of its members are known to have defender leanings. This should make it both a good place to look for potential recruits and a good sample of the opinions that would be expressed once this idea is taken to the NS forums.

The founding principle of this organization should be that of solidarity. It should strive to protect the NS left in its entirety against raiders, be they fascist, capitalist or general, regardless of which vein of leftist thought a region follows. It should do this so that the leftist regions of this game can serve as place of learning and debate for those interested in leftist theory. Finally, it should go beyond simple military activities and actively combat dangerous ideologies such as Fascism through debate on the NS forums. As I see it there are two kinds of Fascist: the hardliners and those who are pushed to this ideology by disillusionment and despair. It is upon this second category that the power of the extreme right is built upon IRL, but it is also the category of people who would be most open to new ideas.

The military objectives of this organization should be as follows:

1. Protect founderless leftist regions by providing endorsements to strengthen the delegate;
2. Help very vulnerable leftist regions to put up a hidden password;
3. Liberate those regions that have been invaded by hostile forces;
4. As a last resort, prevent the transformation of leftist regions into trophies of hostile forces so as to avoid as much harm to the morale of the Left as possible.

The initial structure of this organization should likely be quite simple, just a few dedicated players in command with the rest following orders. In time, as the organization grows this command structure will likely be modified.

These points are all up for discussion and I am more than open to suggestions. :) Since I have little actual experience with the R/D game anyone who could assist me in this endeavor (either through direct participation or just with advice) is more than welcome. :)
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I feel compelled to point out, Grobladonia, the ongoing Inter-regional Leftist Alliance Treaty talks, that include a military with the express task of defending the NS left without being affiliated to a single region, beyond, loosely, to the member regions of the alliance. This, of course, does not prevent separate, NGO defender organizations, and I would in fact encourage it, once we have a framework in place. As I say, not trying to dissuade, just making sure you are aware.
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I'll have to look into this. I didn't know this was being discussed and if it would indeed operate as a left-defender military force then I would rather work with that organization than go to the trouble of founding a new on. It would just be redundant. I'll talk to Terlibe or TSJI about this. Thanks for the heads up. :)
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No problem, the military section is actually being drafted just now, by the vf, once they are done with the first draft it will be discussed on the drafting thread, so if you have any concerns, then yes, talk to TSJI or Terlibe regarding them, or of course myself though they are probably more able than I to represent you. I do suggest though that you read the thread to see what the shape of the organisation will be.
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Sounds interesting to me.
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For the moment I'm waiting for the Versutian Federation representative to make the proposal in the Inter-regional Leftist Alliance Treaty negotiations thread. Shaping that organization's military into a left-defender group would probably be a better option than starting from scratch. I'll keep all those interested updated. :)
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Sounds good, but why only defend.
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There's discussion among The Red Fleet leadership about the feasibility of a "Home Fleet" or similar sub-organization that would only be mobilized on defensive operations.
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The idea of creating a defensive wing within an already existing mixed organization has come to my mind but after careful consideration I dismissed it for two reasons. The first is that some may have objections to joining such an organization, even if only for defensive operations. Since one of the goal of this is to tap into a previously idle recruitment pool it would be best to avoid discouraging any and all potential recruits. The second is that sooner or later there will be tensions within the organization between those who participate in both raiding and defending and those that are more defensively-minded. This would likely end with a split in the organization, which I would prefer to preemptively avoid.

Still, this is an option that is worth discussing so please share your thoughts on this. :)

@CrimsonTideFan: Basically because there isn't a purely left-defender organization out there. There are several general defender organizations and there are a few mixed raider/defender organizations on the left. As I've stated above this would be created for those who wouldn't like the idea of being part of a mixed organization.
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I think acting as a (semi-autonomous?) section of the Red Fleet, a defensive 'Home Fleet', would be the better idea - but then again I'm not among those who are put off by the idea of moving beyond purely defensive activity.*

The thing is though, presumably there would be significant cooperation between the Red Fleet and an independent left-defender org, just as there would presumably be some differentiation between the Red Fleet and a quasi-integrated defensive wing. So really, isn't the difference just one of emphasis?

*Grobladonia: Do you think there is that large an 'untapped pool' of defenders? When I first played NS, many years ago, the Red Liberty Alliance were the main leftist defenders. I don't know for sure, but I would imagine there are fewer people willing to commit to such a body now. Is dividing our efforts really a good idea - are we sure the benefits (of new recruits, otherwise likely to be put off) outweigh the negatives (duplication, division)?
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