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Proposal to ammend the embassy criteria
Topic Started: 8 Jan 2014, 01:23 (916 Views)
Grobladonia
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Sounds good to me. :)
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I also say that we drop these requirements mainly because they are never enforced that regularly and seriously. they are more something there to make it look much more organised and formal.
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2 Feb 2014, 19:07
I also say that we drop these requirements mainly because they are never enforced that regularly and seriously. they are more something there to make it look much more organised and formal.
We do enforce the embassy criteria and the membership requirements quite regularly and quite seriously. We've rejected many a embassy for running into one problem or another. I've already had to drop the ejecthammer (doesn't sound quite as good as "banhammer"...) on at least a dozen or two nations for not being compliant with the Charter, probably would've been more if the compliance checks happened more often. The question is not whether to scrap all of the requirements (that I would be opposed to, we ought to have at least some standards when dealing with diplomacy), but on one particular one: the banned nation categories criterion.
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Perhaps the banned-categories requirement should only apply to World Assembly members? That seems a broad-brush but fairly simple way of assessing the most active members of a region.
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WA members would usually have the hardest time keeping their stats in order since one bad resolution can throw months of issue-answering out the window.
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Didn't realise the change could be that dramatic! :(

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There seems to be considerable diversity of classifications amongst WA members though, so it must be possible to 'override' the impact of resolutions?
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Didn't realise the change could be that dramatic! :(
It depends. Force with which most Issues are affecting nation’s stats becomes much smaller when the nation grows older, but I believe that Resolutions always affect nation’s stats with the same force, no matter how old the nation in question. As a result, after the passing of undesirable Resolutions younger nations can correct theirs CR or PF relatively quickly, but older nations may waste a lot of time before they will be able to do the same.

Still, I think that we should seriously consider your proposal. It seems that right now the region is split about this issue, so we need to consider some compromises. I doubt that Resolutions are able to remove more than two ranks of CR or PF at once, so in absolute majority of cases only the nations that already only barely met our requirements will switch their categories. I think that such approach still will be better than current system that forces us to take into account every random puppet in the region.

And in addition to the categories of all WA members it probably will be logical to take into account the categories of all members of the regional government, even when they are not the members of the WA.
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8 Jan 2014, 01:23
This is why I believe that it should be dropped from the embassy criteria entirely. It is my firm opinion that this is an unreasonable limitation on our region's ability to seek diplomatic ties to like-minded regions, especially since I see the prohibited category list as serving a mostly aesthetic purpose for us. Things such as professed ideology of a region and it's internal government structure should be what determines whether we have an embassy with a it or not, rather than the WA categories of its constituent nations. After all, these categories don't necessarily reflect the beliefs of a person or a region.
I completely agree with your argument here, although I don't think it goes far enough!

In my humble opinion, accepting and declining embassies according to fixed and rather arbitrary regulations is not the right approach to building interregional relations and fostering cooperation between like-minded peoples. I furthermore feel that the establishment and closure of embassies should be a directly democratic decision, as this would not only make the process more geninely democratic but it would also be more engaging for the members of the region. I think inter-regional affairs should be something everyone is involved, not just officials and bureaucrats.

This region treats embassies with a lot more significance than other regions, which I completely support, but it still feels as if the embassy is just another paper in the draw of a government desk. As socialist regions, we should be fostering solidarity, enabling cooperation, spreading information and standing as one against oppression, exploitation, and hatred. To involve the people more in interregional relations is one small step towards this ideal, and placing control over embassies in the hands of the people, not their representatives, will encourage this.
Edited by Kryftland, 5 Feb 2014, 03:44.
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