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Cabinet Meeting 5.3
Topic Started: 10 May 2013, 04:12 (895 Views)
Haltari
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Greetings Members of the 5th Cabinet,

The cabinet discussion has fallen silent recently, and I hope that this slightly delayed 3rd cabinet meeting will open up some more cabinet discussion. The last cabinet meeting has been largely concerned with referendums and votes, so I would like to move on from that for now to focus on other issues. However, everyone should continue to come up with ideas for Amendment #39, and if you have any votes and amendments to propose, feel free to do so.

Items for the entire Cabinet to address:

1. Peace Treaty with The Internationale
The possibility of restarting these talks is returning, and I would like there to be significant discussion over the future of these talks. I have been communicating with some of you about the treaty via telegram, so feel free to share those ideas in the Internationale forum discussion.

2. Complete commendation for Grolsch
I would like this taken care of soon because nothing has been done with this for 3 months. We need to decide who will be writing this commendation.

3. Prepared ministerial statements workshop (ongoing project)
Now that the auto-telegram system is being implemented, it would be good to look at creating a more standard set of telegrams and statements to be sent out automatically.

4. Proposed back up Secretary-General and President in the case of inactivity (Grobladonia)

5. PF and CR requirements amendment (Currently Being written by Suceavija)
There definitely needs to be more discussion over this.

6. Review jobs offered in the 'Help Wanted' subforum (if you want an assistant for your ministry, post the job in the subforum)

7. Discuss the performances of the other cabinet members in Terlibe's cabinet member evaluation.
Try to apply this constructive criticism to your cabinet position.


8. Discuss the possible implementation of the API telegram system
This could actually be a good recruitment technique if we could somehow create a CR and PF filter.

8. Revitalization of the Newspaper
The newspaper has been very silent for a long time except for Terlibe's article a few days ago. I would like more articles to be written for newspaper just to use it more often. This is not really a priority at the moment, but I just want Solidarity to be used more often.

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Items for individual ministries to address:

Secretary General (SG):
1. Determine if appropriate to declassify previous closed-door Cabinet meeting notes
--It would be better to hold off on releasing these until TI treaty is either abandoned or completed.
2. Create Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) section in 'Introduction' forum, edit 'About the Democratic Socialist Assembly' to include link to FAQ's.
--I am currently working on a few of these, and you can come up with your own ideas to add. This can be discussed through telegram.
3. Make sure everything is updated (Amendments, Charter nations, etc.)
4. Actively participate in the discussion over the future of the Internationale treaty.

Minister of Foreign Affairs (MFA):
1. Make embassy recommendations to P/WAD
--Secular Alliance
2. Prepare interregional intelligence report for CAB
--Interregional partners/allies
--Interregional adversaries
--Other regions of interest, if any
3. Actively participate in the discussion over the future of the Internationale treaty.

Minister of Justice/Head of Supreme Court (MoJ):
1. Audit region for Civil Rights (CR), Political Freedoms (PF), and National Categories (NC) compliance
2. Make recommendations to P/WAD for nations to eject, if any
--Like I stated before, I would like to eject as few nations as possible until Charter Amendment #39 is completed, but report all of the violators anyway.

Minister of Immigration/Regional Promotion (MIRP):
1. Try to add filters/improve the API as much as you can
2. Verify if/when interregional leftist fair is being held
3. Look into the possibility of creating an auto-message for welcoming telegrams-->discuss with Grobladonia
--The only problem I can think of with this is that nations that just briefly left will be welcomed all over again, which may seem strange.

Minister of Domestic Affairs (MDA):
1. Continue coming up with new debate ideas.
2. Look into the possibility of creating an auto-message for welcoming telegrams-->discuss with Gervase
--The only problem I can think of with this is that nations that just briefly left will be welcomed all over again, which may seem strange.
3. Possibly start nominations for a new contest.
4. Update all of the information in the NS Wiki.
--There should not be too much to change. Mainly population and a few other minor details.

Minister of Cartography (MoC):
1. Verify all nations on map are:
--Existing
--Reside in the region (domestic puppets okay, too)
2. Add nations from map opt-in subforum who request placement on map
3. Essentially just keep the map current and updated
Edited by Haltari, 23 May 2013, 04:17.
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Haltari
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I don't know. I might just eject him with all of the other charter violators when the time comes, or I could try sending him a message myself. I might get the same response though.
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I decided to respond. It's probably not going to change anything, but at least I can say I tried.

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I did message Aco. In another telegram, because the maximum number of recipients is eight. There's no need for that kind of inflammatory response. Don't go about shooting the messenger. This is our policy, and I'm just fulfilling my role as minister. Here in the DSA we have certain standards for Civil and Political rights as determined by our constitutional charter. As a region founded on democratic and leftist principles, we recognize that the nations collectively serve as a reflection for the community in it's entirety. If you feel that this is unfair, you are welcome to take it up with the Delegate, Sec Gen, or other ministers. And, you are right, your other statistics do reflect this. However, you are so close to meeting our requirements, I really don't see why you are getting mad.
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Internationale entryist or run-of-the-mill troll? Place your bets.

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I suspect that Marijuanalahara is a troll judging from the posts they are making. There was a similar troll in TI not too long ago that got banjected for being disruptive and it might be the same person with a different nation. Or a completely different person. For now all they have done is make strange comments, but I think they should be watched carefully, just in case.

I think you have a gift! How were you able to tell?
My bet is run-of-the-mill troll. Like I said there was one, possibly two (my memory is a bit fuzzy on this) situations in TI where someone made random, absurd remarks then struck out when they were eventually questioned. That (or those) person got banjected. It's possible there's a troll out there targeting leftist regions, or maybe it's different people. Hard to tell really. They may also be just a person who doesn't like being told what to do, but again, it's hard to say.

Hopefully I'm wrong about them and this all settles down. And even if they come into compliance with the charter however, that TG may be grounds for a trial in the Supreme Court.

EDIT: I've opened the debate I mentioned. This is the link. I recommend removing the energy debate and replacing it with this. Also, I recommend removing the UDLS and DSA Embassy Discussion from the Current Major Business since it look like its just taking up space at this point.
Edited by Grobladonia, 6 Jun 2013, 00:04.
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Terlibe
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I already expressed my concerns to Haltari, but I feel I should tell all of you that I think Marijuanalahara's post may be getting a little out of hand.
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Like I told you in the telegram, I definitely agree with you, but there is nothing we can do about it. He not doing anything worthy of being investigated by the Supreme Court. If anything, his telegram to Ratateague might be applicable.
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Grobladonia
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If they are a troll then their posts will continue to escalate in strangeness until somebody takes the bait. Not much we can do until then, however, except wait for it to happen.

EDIT: I just had an idea. Is it possible to send a region-wide telegram to everyone except Marijuanalahara and warn them that we might have a troll in our midst? It may help, but it also may tarnish their reputation if it turns out they are not a troll.
Edited by Grobladonia, 6 Jun 2013, 20:40.
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Haltari
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I don't think that anything should be done until someone takes the bait. Also, the only way that it is possible to send a telegram to all the nations except Marijuanalahara is by doing 8 nations at a time.
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Yeah, i suspected as much. That may take a small eternity to do. It seems all we can do is wait to see if anybody takes the bait.
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What do you mean by "take the bait?"

EDIT: I have another question: What is our current process for accepting/denying embassies?
Edited by Terlibe, 7 Jun 2013, 02:04.
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As far as I can tell, Marijuanalahara's posts are meant to be strange and absurd. The point (judging by some examples in TI) is for someone to question or attack the posts in some way. This would lead to a strange and just slightly hostile response that would slowly snowball into ever more aggressive reply's on the part of the troll. So the "bait" is the strange posts that they make. Today's example seems a bit more provocative than so far, possibly because most people just played along with their strange posts about food.
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