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| Topic Started: Dec 3 2008, 08:01:58 AM (281 Views) | |
| Ghost | Dec 3 2008, 08:01:58 AM Post #1 |
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Internet Piracy is increasing rapidly with the growing popularity of The Pirate Bay (http://thepiratebay.org) after several lawsuits filed by anti-piracy companies. TPB is now bigger than LimeWire could ever hope to be, with ~25 million peers on their tracker at any given point in time (yes, even at 3am). Hosted in Sweden, and perfectly legal there, TPB continues to laugh in the face of the MPAA. Now some say this is extremly wrong, that piracy is stealing. Im about to prove to you that it is NOT stealing, however morally wrong. Lets say you have an apple. I walk up, take said apple from your hands and walk away with it. This is stealing, and is wrong. Now, say you have another apple, and I walk up to you again. This time however, I make a perfect "copy" of this apple, there now being two. I walk away with my apple, leaving you with yours. Did I just steal? Didnt think so. If you still say piracy is wrong, think this over. Artist do not make money form CDs. Its the truth, the music companies make the CD money. How do artists get rich and buy awesome cars? Concerts. So next time you download a CD, dont forget to buy a concert ticket as well. STILL say piracy is wrong? Ever share your friends music via a burned CD, Flash Drive, or IM? Congrats, youve just commited piracy, and now youre a part of the family. The latest Piracy info can be found at Torrent Freak, the largest torrent news blog with 469,000 people in the RSS feed alone. http://torrentfreak.com Im all for piracy, how about you? Well heres the feedback I got from someone else,
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| santanoice | Dec 3 2008, 04:00:57 PM Post #2 |
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It's not really "that" simple. Artists MUST get royalties from their songs, especially if they wrote their own music and lyrics. In Australia, music is intellectual property. If one person in a music group writes the lyrics, then they receive half the royalties, because the lyrics is that one person's intellectual property. (Eg: John Lennon wrote a lot of Beatles songs, so he received a lot of royalties.) The other half is for the actual music. If they whole group contributes to composition, then the royalties for the music is split between them. If one person of the group composes the music, then they get the royalties for the composition. This is actually the case with covers as well. The law for this basically goes, if you perform somebody else's song (such as John Lennon's "Imagine," which he both wrote lyrics for and composed), then you would need to pay him all the royalties (even though he's dead.) =/ The copyright lasts until 50 years after the LAST copyright owner dies. So, if you want to perform Imagine and not pay royalties, you'd need to wait until 50 years after John Lennon's death, but for a song that is copyright to "The Beatles," you need to wait until 50 years after the last Beatles member dies. Though there are those annoying pop singers who neither write lyrics nor compose. They don't receive royalties, because they don't own the copyright.
Yes, but the apple doesn't have any copyright attached to it. (You can't copyright the shape of an apple, as it's just a natural thing.) Music/Movies and such have "Intellectual Property" attached to them, because it is somebody's intangible idea, but it belongs to them. You purchase movies because the person who created the idea of the movie has let you. They have not let you create "a copy." Creating a copy IS stealing. You're not stealing the product, as the product isn't where the property comes from. The property is in the idea. Making a copy is stealing the idea, not the product. There is no "idea" in an apple, so a copy of an apple is not stealing. --- So anyway, I just explained that piracy IS stealing. Though I don't "support" piracy, but I do it anyway. (Yay, hypocrite!) Why? It's cheaper. There are other things to spend money on, like groceries and such.
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| LunArFoX | Dec 4 2008, 01:14:14 PM Post #3 |
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Only for things that I don't really care about, or is not really in service or something like it... I have flash mx just because I wanted to mess with it some, I never made anything real with it or anything.. And it's not the newest version. |
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| Matthew | Jan 1 2009, 03:44:33 AM Post #4 |
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I don't support "piracy" at all. |
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| Anthrax Santa | Jan 1 2009, 06:25:17 AM Post #5 |
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I usually buy the Cd's I download. Only if they're good enough. Or I download Cd's I usually can't ever find. Edited by Anthrax Santa, Jan 1 2009, 06:25:57 AM.
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| hack13 | Mar 11 2009, 10:49:14 AM Post #6 |
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Well, I don't pirate, however my uncle is pirates movies that are really old. |
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| DrunkenSanta | Apr 15 2009, 02:55:14 AM Post #7 |
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If I want to support the company / developer / other, I'll buy their product. Simple as that. |
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| Ecstacy | Aug 25 2009, 08:20:36 AM Post #8 |
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Agreed with squirrel. Most company do not deserve the revenue. |
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| reindeerjohnny | Aug 25 2009, 03:17:45 PM Post #9 |
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I illegally download TV shows purely because they don't air here for another 6 months. TV networks screw us over, we screw them over - simple as that. And I was gonna torrent Rock Band but the game was way too big for the average PS2 game (over 7Gigs, PS2 games are normally around 3 or 4). And I needed a double layer disc which I didn't want to get. Also the fact the game has drums, I was angry that I was waiting a year for it. Edited by reindeerjohnny, Aug 25 2009, 03:19:34 PM.
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| Snowdairu86 | Aug 28 2009, 05:04:10 AM Post #10 |
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I don't pirate anything. I just buy things with my hard-earned money. Arrrr! |
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| Zenus | Aug 29 2009, 09:23:41 PM Post #11 |
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I've downloaded a few songs off the internet before.. nothing much. I don't really think much of piracy. So some over payed celebs aren't getting payed everything they apparently should. |
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| baublebob | Aug 30 2009, 09:38:41 PM Post #12 |
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Pirating probably helps keep the prices lower, because why would people buy these things for expensive prices when they can get them free? Regardless, its morally wrong. You are making an illegal copy of someone elses' property... Of course, everyone does it. XD Often if I only like one song by a certain artist, I will download it. But if I like several I will buy their album. |
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| Sykx | Sep 5 2009, 06:08:46 PM Post #13 |
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I don't really care for the companies and businesses that over price their material for the public anyways ... In some ways I feel that the people that pirate the material are holding a balance of price from these businesses and companies. Once they see that their sales are going down so does the price which is a win/win because now more people will actually buy the product (More than likely the people that don't know ow to pirate and couldn't afford it prior) and the companies and /or businesses will still get the revenue needed to build their business and not the CEO/Owners new condo in Hawaii ....:P .... I'm all for it and give advice to my friends on how not to get caught (Not saying I actually do it )
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| Anthrax Santa | Sep 6 2009, 06:07:33 AM Post #14 |
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I download ds games and play them on my DS. Am I a crook?! |
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| reindeerjohnny | Sep 7 2009, 07:06:05 PM Post #15 |
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"I AM NOT A CROOK" - Nixon xD |
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| mastodi | Sep 18 2009, 04:43:32 AM Post #16 |
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My mature opinion on internet piracy is that until great companies like Microsoft don't lower their prices, we'll still be on downloading warez from the internet. Isn't that simple? lower your prices in 3rd world countries and you'll have more customers, if not, you're in a way or another supporting internet piracy. No more. |
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| santanoice | Sep 18 2009, 07:28:20 PM Post #17 |
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Lowering the prices won't help because people will still be choosing free over cheap. |
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| Snowdairu86 | Sep 19 2009, 06:37:28 AM Post #18 |
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But it feels better to have it in physical form rather than a download. |
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| mastodi | Sep 27 2009, 11:50:14 AM Post #19 |
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I'm a torrentfreak user haha, until they lower their prices... |
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| baublebob | Oct 24 2009, 12:39:48 PM Post #20 |
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I think if the prices are reasonable, people will be willing to pay them. Most people prefer to do the right thing... The reason piracy is so big is that everyone just says, 'everyone does it'. If the prices are lower, more people would buy tere music / tv shows/ software and that culture would change and it wouldn't be as common. |
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