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| Topic Started: Nov 5 2009, 01:32 AM (335 Views) | |
| JeY Nakari | Nov 7 2009, 09:41 PM Post #21 |
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Well, my point was just that we're not aware of the operations of staff. We don't need to know the exact questions, per say, but more of a "Now that I'm admin, these are some plans I've had to put in motion, what priority do you guys think i should take?" Kind-of topic. Sure, there are many small things that don't matter l ike fixing typos on forum descriptions, but updating our exam is something crucial to the site. srsly. |
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| Wilhelmina Hatcher | Nov 7 2009, 10:37 PM Post #22 |
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That seems like quite a loaded question, in that it is asking two questions at once. <_< 1: Should the test be continuously updated? (yes or no) 2: If so, should the staff be the ones responsible in the continuous update of the exam? (yes or no) If you disagree with either of the above two propositions, you must disagree to the whole entire thing. It makes your results entirely inaccurate. Edit: I'm half expecting the staff to make some cheeky remark like "Well of course we knew it was a loaded question! That was the point! Tee hee!" but then that only further highlights all the loophole makings and whatnot that the staff is supposed to not be doing. Also, erase the edit bar below this, correct my usage of the word "then or than" in the part after "tee hee!", and keep this sentence in. |
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| Rina Kasakura | Nov 8 2009, 03:04 AM Post #23 |
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Looking at it that way, it does kinda sound like that....
Back on current topic, I do understand (I think) what you're saying, though. With that said, would you all prefer I change the question to the following 2?: 1. Who should be responsible for the improvements of the 2 types of exams? (entire board; staff; group of board-selected members) 2. Who should be responsible for the issuing, grading, and return of the 2 types of exams? (staff; group of board-selected members; both) ((I left out the "continuously" part because that's a given. All "eras(?)" of staff, here, have been improving the exams whenever/wherever it appeared to be needed. And even when/if the responsibility goes to the entire board or selected members,I'd assume they'd plan on improving it whenever/wherever necessary, as well. So I found that unimportant to include.)) While you guys are thinking about/deciding that, or suggesting your own wording, I just wanna be 100% clear on something, so there are no misunderstandings on my part: When you guys say/said "update continuously," I assume you mean "update whenever a good idea(s) arises and is recognized by the board." The only reason I'm even remotely uncertain is because "continuously" seemed too strong a word, IMO, but I guess that's irrelevant. So again (asking everyone, as I'm doing this, myself): With that said, would you all prefer I edit the Poll Questions to the following: 1. Who should be the ones responsible for the improvements of the 2 exams? (entire board; staff; group of board-selected members) 2. Who should be responsible for the issuing, grading, and return of the 2 exams? (staff; group of board-selected members) You can suggest your own wording. |
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| Aoi Sanders | Nov 8 2009, 03:46 AM Post #24 |
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I do agree that Danielle's wording combined two questions into one. Though, with the current poll, I see four options. Agree to Staff running the Exam, Agree to continuous updates - Vote "Yes" Agree to Staff running the Exam, Disagree to continuous updates - Vote "No" Disagree to Staff running the Exam, Agree to continuous updates - Vote "No" Disagree to Staff running the Exam, Disagree to continuous updates - Vote "No" So, to me, right now it looks loaded against the current system. I'm fine with splitting it into multiple polls, but if the current vote distribution remains I really don't see the point. Also, "continuously" should be left in the question since the staff's unannounced update to remove the newly banned cards and to adjust other questions to reflect the most recent sets and deck types is part of what started this in the first place. |
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| Rina Kasakura | Nov 8 2009, 05:25 AM Post #25 |
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No, the vote distribution will be reset, since the questions are worded differently. @"continuously": but doing it continuously isn't the same thing as doing it unannounced (except to those whom it would concern at the time. I think Xaavfiear[Jey] was one person I informed during that time, sometime before publicly posting the change), while I kinda get what you're saying. But if you guys want, "continuously" can stay in there. ...I'd still want a confirmed definition for the word in this case, for my own or universal understanding, based on my earlier post, dudes and dudettes. That aside, so, guys, how should we word this poll so that both sides are equal (if I said that right)? |
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| Danielle Chirel | Nov 9 2009, 02:00 AM Post #26 |
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Aoi, I will have to defer to your better judgment next time. I do remember you pointing that out immediately. But I didn't want to change the question after Rou had already voted. That seemed very much like a bad idea-- to change the question after another vote had been cast. But now that it's been brought up anyway, go ahead and change the wording of the question if you want. What I was trying to capture with the word "continuously" was all of the times Billie or I would go ahead and add a question or two to the Exam as we thought of it, in addition to the major updating the Staff did as a team when the format changed and when Konami took over from UDE, to ensure the Exam was still accurate. |
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| Wilhelmina Hatcher | Nov 9 2009, 09:00 PM Post #27 |
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The "whole entire thing" was, literally, the whole entire question. "Should the staff be doing updates?" Even the knew questions Aoi proposed seem rather loaded, or at least like it would take longer to impliment. Voting for the staff to not run the exam yet agreeing to continuous updates is meaningless, since voting for that doesn't state who exactly will be doing the updating. |
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| Rina Kasakura | Nov 10 2009, 12:46 AM Post #28 |
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I think that was what Aoi was saying, about being loaded. IMO, she wasn't proposing questions. She said the "current" poll, so I assume those 4 questions were split up from Dani's, much like your 2 were, but from Aoi's view, this time. Then again, it could easily go with mine, too (I think...). I can be mistaken one way or the other, here. @whole entire thing: [re-reads post with new point of view] Ah. I see. Okay. If Aoi's question list was referring to Dani's poll, then my poll questions may still be an option if you guys wanna go with it:
You guys can bring better worded questions, if you'd like, to the table. |
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| Aoi Sanders | Nov 10 2009, 02:40 AM Post #29 |
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Those weren't questions, I was listing the distribution of possible opinions regarding the two halves of Dani's question and categorizing them into "Yes" votes and "No" votes in the current poll. Only one of the four mapped to a "Yes" vote on the current poll, so assuming no one misunderstood what they were voting for, I concluded that people voting yes would vote for the Staff to maintain the exam. I felt I could make that assumption since no one came forward and said they voted for the wrong choice after the ambiguity was brought up. |
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| Rounin Nagasaki | Nov 10 2009, 01:12 PM Post #30 |
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I think you're wrong. |
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