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A Look Back on Sheatheria, why it's not coming back again, and what it could give rise to.
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Topic Started: Jun 3 2018, 10:07 PM (688 Views)
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Jun 3 2018, 10:07 PM
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Sheatheria is a project everyone on the forum probably knows. You either really like it, or you don't at all. It's a project for which I feel a lot of mixed feelings. It began as a fantasy almost magical setting when I was seventeen, an excuse to just draw any sort of wacky animal I wanted, stick it in any sort of setting and see what happened, and was from its debut immensely popular on the forum, which I found very exciting as someone who had never before been popular in any way in any circumstance. It was popular enough to spin off many inspired projects, most very short-lived, and it was great fun to make. But as I became more knowledgeable the scientifically impossible premise started to bother me more and more until I felt compelled to began an endless series of revisions, reboots and attempts to configure the very different aspects of hard science and fantasy, as recently as the extremely short-lived reboot this winter, none of which I have ever been happy with - because in the end, those things could not be meshed. Sheatheria's setting had to be fantasy, and it is for this reason - along with the project becoming more and more messy and complicated over time, to the point I'm pretty sure it was totally overwhelming to get into for anyone who wasn't there from the start - I gradually lost all interest in continuing it as I established it so long ago.
But I am left with the issue of that while I've come to dislike the original Sheatheria premise, I am still very fond of the strange animal groups that were made to live there - the theropod rodents, avian frogs and all the other strange and wonderful life that calls the planet home. I often contemplate somehow resetting these many and varied creatures into another world, but struggle to think of anything that works, or the means to transport them in a way that would not be boring to readers wanting new content. And I am certain that some would find the idea of ripping apart a project that, good or bad, has become so well-known and iconic, to be very undesirable.
For Sheatheria from the start centered on how life would evolve on a planet with an equatorial ice cap - and yet nothing discussed whatsoever actually depends on the existence of such a thing. So theoretically, Sheatheria could exist as a much more plausible world. But would there be a following if the project were so dramatically cut up and put together again as something so different?
What should someone do when they simply don't like the foundation they built the project on, when they otherwise put so much effort into the later world-building? Is it better off left as it was and laid to rest - something fun at the time but now complete - or cut apart like Frankenstein's monster, to perhaps begin a new, more promising life on a sturdier base (and most definitely a less conceited title)?
What does the forum want for Sheatheria's future?
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Jun 3 2018, 10:17 PM
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It's a shame Sheatheria has to end already...
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Jun 3 2018, 10:24 PM
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Before I start this post, I should make it clear I've never read Sheatheria. I've read a couple isolated entries, including the one about Maritimus, but nothing extensive. Anyways, in my of opinion, you should leave it as it is. A relict of the forum's past, still there for anyone to enjoy should they wish. It's obvious you're very talented when it comes to writing spec in general; Serina is a fantastic project. You can produce new and original content going forward without needing to re-use the Sheatheria ideas. But, of course, we're not the same people (I'd argue we're not even all that similar); if you personally feel that you're distinctly unhappy just leaving things where they are, then by all means do something else with it.
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Jun 3 2018, 10:26 PM
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There is a lot on Sheatheria I think can be left to go, but a few lineages I am proud enough of to not want to see them go extinct. There are a few groups which I feel have promise to be recycle and further elaborated upon in other settings, either together or apart.
The theropodents - a varied assortment of bipedal rodents of forms as varied as loon-like sea-goers, yi-qi shaped gliders, bunny-faced grazers and fierce tyrannosaurus gerbils.
Ranamonarchians - I still like the idea of frogs or frog-like animals becoming a dominant animal group. On Sheatheria, frogs more or less did what dinosaurs did on Earth.
The manguar - a standalone with no relatives ever discussed, but I do like its design.
The zucchini bear, in its more modern rodent form.
I like the skystrider design, but I never was happy with the way I described their culture.
But I feel all of these animals could work in other settings.
I am conflicted on griffons. Ornithopods evolving a pronated wrist, flight, giant forelimb walkers and so much else now seems less plausible to me, as much as I still love the emperor swiftlet's design. I don't see the griffons coming back as ornithopods and indeed this was an early revision at a time when I first decided quadrupedal birds, as I had originally described them, weren't realistic and stumbled upon an old thread discussing the possibility of ornithiscians evolving flight. It fit my needs well enough, but I don't think it's perfect. Now, though, many of them would fit naturally as evolved from Serina's placental birds.
Grove crabs and the other giant land bugs including the aerwhale are wonderfully aesthetic, but impossible in any real setting unless I were to seriously rethink them and their designs.
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Jun 3 2018, 10:40 PM
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I think a differentiation needs to be made between "hard" and "soft" spec. "Hard" works, like the Neocene Project or C. M. Kosemen's Snaiad exobiology site, obey real-world laws of evolution rigorously and essentially represent real-life principles applied to fictional scenarios. "Soft" works, like Sheatheria and Wayne Barlowe's Expedition, maintain some grounding in real science but mostly use it as a springboard to envision species and scenarios that defy the laws of nature as we understand them. Many of us here on the forum tend to regard "soft" speculative biology unfavorably unless it is done exceptionally well.
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well then Sheatheria looks like it has finally came to an end but i have these 2 questions
1. where did you get the name "Sheatheria" from
2. would you consider serina a "soft" project or a "hard" project or somewhere in between
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well then Sheatheria looks like it has finally came to an end but i have these 2 questions 1. where did you get the name "Sheatheria" from 2. would you consider serina a "soft" project or a "hard" project or somewhere in between 1. It's basically just his forum name as a planet name. 2. Save for how the project is set up(that being terraforming and panspermia by what amounts to renamed Alien Space Bats), Serina is most definitely hard spec, despite how outlandish some of the concepts may seem at first.
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I feel Sheather should do whatever he wants, for me as long as the old threads are kept is good
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Personally, I really enjoyed Sheatheria even with its impossible setting. However, I think it would be pretty cool to see some of the creatures reused or redesigned in future projects. I don’t think there is anything wrong with taking ideas from your own older projects and putting them in new projects, even if the setting is totally different
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I think a differentiation needs to be made between "hard" and "soft" spec. "Hard" works, like the Neocene Project or C. M. Kosemen's Snaiad exobiology site, obey real-world laws of evolution rigorously and essentially represent real-life principles applied to fictional scenarios. "Soft" works, like Sheatheria and Wayne Barlowe's Expedition, maintain some grounding in real science but mostly use it as a springboard to envision species and scenarios that defy the laws of nature as we understand them. Many of us here on the forum tend to regard "soft" speculative biology unfavorably unless it is done exceptionally well. Exactly.
I'll be honest, I never really got why people on this forum snub soft spec so much. The metric by how 'possible' something is shouldn't matter - what matters is the work that the creator put into their organisms and the resulting quality. Regardless of how 'hard' or 'soft' a spec scenario is, it's still by its very nature fictional. Dividing by zero is still zero and all that.
I'm going to be honest - the attitude towards softer spec and more implausible works of fiction worries me. Dismissing something as impossible or implausible never sat well with me; it just feels hypocritical. If you consider some types of scenario (For example, kaiju) to be totally impossible and so refuse to touch them because, well, they can't exist, could easily extend that to all spec. Why bother wasting our time with alternative evolution? Non-avian dinosaurs went extinct, so pondering what they may be like is just a stupid waste of time. Same goes for future evolution: we can't predict what life forms will be alive when we finally go extinct, and humans will be extinct anyways, so who cares? Hell, let's take it another step further - why care about stuff like superheroes or even fiction in general? Why care about the lessons that they can teach? They aren't real, after all; just silly stories. When you snub these sorts of scenarios, you're essentially telling people "You aren't imagining in the right way. Stop it and imagine things my way, the right way."
I can't help but see parallels to how the movie industry refused to take superhero movies seriously, refusing to step outside of a very limited genre and thereby similarly limiting what. (May or may not have been inspired by this)
Gah, this was a lot of rambling about stuff that doesn't really matter for this. Anyways, here's what I think, Sheather.
Did you enjoy working on Sheatheria? Did you have fun working on the creatures, on the world? If yes, then continue working on it. Salvage what you loved about it and make it better than ever before. If you didn't enjoy it, then it's time to move on.
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Spoiler: click to toggle OctoSharkTaSaurus: WELP. HELL-O-PHANTS IT IS. Kamineigh: I was six and I had started having fantasies about this old crone dying. Sometimes by my own hand. YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING HORRIBLY WRONG IF A SIX-YEAR OLD WANTS TO KILL YOU WITH THE SAME HANDS HE JUST USED TO MAKE A BLOCK TOWER. Parasky: No, he's right, they have a medical grade walrus at most hospitals for that sort of thing. Mr Mysterio, regarding yours truly: I'm learning things about you that I'm not sure I wanted to know. HangingThief: An otologist is only as good as his walrus Stealth_Rock: We have a discord for double penetration? Ichthyander: If your eyelids are massive enough to significantly affect the path of light in space, it is time to go sleep. Mr Mysterio: Glarn-Glarn, don't... don't fuck the cave baboons. Kamineigh: They lacked wings. Instead, they went around in modified pilot's gear and beat the shit out of people using maces. Parasky: No! We will not calm down! This is a serious argument over whether or not some long dead animal is in any way similar to a group of modern animals that they are descended from! THIS. IS. SEWIOUS. Lamna: Obvious typo, I'm never going to be popular in Belgium. Trex841: Interesting point. Valid counterpoint. Self-obsessed psychotic rant. Parasky: No ties. Begin genetically modifying crows until we have organisms that roughly resemble those in the competition, and then have them fight to the death to see who wins this competition. Alternatively, Cephalian and SabrWolf could fight to the death. But at the end of the day something will be fighting to the death for my amusement to determine the winner. Yellowdrakex: Is it alright to have an irrational fear of gliding snakes? They're snakes. FROM ABOVE. Kamineigh: See, you wouldn't be in this mess if you began a bloody revolution every time your leaders showed to unsatisfactory. Zihuatanejo: Somewhere in heaven, a very groggy, very confused angel has just woken up and is trying to figure out why a boisterous Australian man is poking it with a stick. Komodo: I'm sorry but in what alternative universe would thousands of zebras be sent back in time by some sort of illegal time travel group to change history and preparing them by making gigantic working animatronic allosaurs? Seriously, why? Parasky: Maybe y'all should move to America, where you can flex your freedom muscles. Sir Spookums: It's a game about children catching super powered monsters, stuffing them in tiny balls, and battling other strangers' monsters. What about that makes sense in regards to anything, mister Kam? Des Orages: Yi qi. Just when you think you've seen it all, nature screws us over once more. Kaminiegh: This is clearly an inaccurate statement. I'd never challenge the authority of an admin... Unless Paraksytron stubbed his toe and fell over. THEN I, STARSCREIGHM, WILL BECOME THE NEW LEADER OF OF THE DE-SPECU-CONS! Dragon: Is normal a good word to use for describing any of us? Velociraptor: I once dreamed I was trying to steal a flamingo. The flamingo was oddly calm about the whole situation. Kaminiegh: THAT'S IT, I'M KINKSHAMING. Flashman63: In its 4,600 year history, men from all eras, places and classes have been entering into the Library: from the ancient bearded sages of Sumeria and Chaldea, to the sober-minded Academics and Zoologists of the Victorian era, to the great warlord Cletus, an inbred hillbilly who just happened to be carrying his AR-15 around his County's Strip-Mall library. OctoSharktasaurus: Well, uh, it's a pseudo-tripedal, terrestrial subcontinental Madagascan Beaked Whale... Is that not obvious? It literally says it blatantly. Holben: Did you not add lamb's blood to your fruit juice and the crushed bones of an englishman to your salsa? It's not authentic if you don't. Kaminiegh: Shut up, Hybrid, stop ruining my chances of time-travelling and getting some Neanderthal tail! Mr Mysterio: Except maybe Canada. If ever there was a country that was hiding secret reserves of powerful alien technology, it's probably mine. HangingThief: If you answered mainly "yes," you are most likely a salamander. Unfortunately it is becoming harder and harder to tell these days. Monster: In vaguely related news, I've developed a fear of my sewing machine. WHAT ARE YOU STRANGE NEEDLEBEAST Mynxi: He sowed the seed, I merely pissed on it and saw what grew. Beetleboy: The moral of the story: never trust a catfish. Parasky: Speaking of original, note to self: write erotic classical Chinese literature fan fiction Bromance of the Three Kingdoms under pseudonym Tuck Chingle. Little: Starting playing DND, took all of an hour of gameplay until a yuri love-triangle was initiated. And no, it was not my fault. Corecin: If this is your first time with a lesbian love triangle in a DnD game than you don't even have to specify that you're starting out. Octo: Oh no now Little will enlighten with the deep and complex subject that is hentai lore. Beetleboy: It shows what kind of person I am that I'm seeking crush advice on a forum about creating fictional organisms. Corecin: I am not in the mood for looking up yuri because then the FBI agent monitoring my computer will judge me with reckless abandon. Blue_Komrade: Excuse me sir I am going to have to see if you have your membership card to the Misanthrope Club. Parasky: Ultimately, by the miracle of microbiology and biochemistry, I have accidentally added an additional month to my brew and created a Bavarian style hefeweizen rather than the American style wheat beer I planned, despite technically not having the correct ingredients. However because I wrote down what I did wrong its not a mistake it's actually science. Rebirth: I can't be the only one curious about what would happen if you spayed and neutered a male antechinus before it reached sexual maturity. Ebervalius: Laws? What kind of spooky cuckery is that? Parasky: Ah see, but that's just the thing, you thought that I thought that you thought that I had said you hadn't read it, when really I had said that you had said that you thought that I thought that you hadn't read it. So really it's Flisch's fault.
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My Projects
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Spoiler: click to toggle Evolutionary Continuum: Jurassic Safari: An adventure 65 million years in the making continues. The Future is Altered: When man plays God, he plays to win.
Alternative Evolution: The Extended Jurassic: The time of the titans extends through the Cretaceous Xensaron: Second chance for the strange
The Habitable Zone: Bellator: A World at War Pentrex: The five worlds of the five champions of the dinosaur world, together at last.
Alternate Universes: Terra Venatus: Where fantasy comes to life Terra Incognita: Planet Earth, now with 150% more pulp! Sol and its Surrounding Worlds: A Guide to the Organisms and Peoples of the Solar System (Companion to Terra Incognita) Guide to the Ark: ???
Cafe Cosmique: Time Rip: When Dinosaurs Attack!
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Jun 4 2018, 12:07 PM
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A huntsman spider that wastes time on the internet because it has nothing better to do
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Well, I don't have much in the way of suggestions for Sheatheria as a whole. But, I do know how endosseans can be a little more realistic. Make them descended from opilliones rather than crustaceans, as opilliones have internal structures made of stuff very similar to cartilage. This could eventually turn into an endoskeleton under the right conditions.
There's also horseshoe crabs which have cartilage plates supporting their book gills but megafaunal horseshoe crabs is MY idea which I'm gonna use in MY project so donut steel >:(
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Projects Punga: A terraformed world with no vertebrates Last one crawling: The last arthropod
ARTH-6810: A world without vertebrates (It's ded, but you can still read I guess)
Potential ideas- Swamp world: A world covered in lakes, with the largest being caspian sized. Nematozoic: After a mass extinction of ultimate proportions, a single species of nematode is the only surviving animal. Tri-devonian: A devonian like ecosystem with holocene species on three different continents.
Quotes "Arthropod respiratory systems aren't really "inefficient", they're just better suited to their body size. It would be quite inefficient for a tiny creature that can easily get all the oxygen it needs through passive diffusion to have a respiratory system that wastes energy on muscles that pump air into sacs. (Hence why lungless salamanders, uniquely miniscule and hyperabundant tetrapods, have ditched their lungs in favor of breathing with their skin and buccal mucous membranes.) But large, active insects already use muscles to pump air in and out of their spiracles, and I don't see why their tracheae couldn't develop pseudo- lungs if other conditions pressured them to grow larger."-HangingTheif
"Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif
"Humans have a tribal mindset and it's not alien for tribes to war on each other. I mean, look at the atrocities chimpanzee tribes do to each other. Most of people's groupings and big conflicts in history are directly or obliquely manifestations of this tribal mindset."-Sceynyos-yis
"He's the leader of the bunch You know his Coconut Gun is finally back to fire in spurts. His Coconut Gun Can make you smile If he shoots ya it's firing in spurts. His Coconut Gun Is bigger, faster, stronger too! He's the gun member of the Coconut Crew! HUH!
C.G.! Coconut Gun! C.G.! Co-Coconut Gun! Shoot yourself with a Coconut Gun! HUH!"-Kamineigh
"RIP, rest in Peytoia."-Little
"In Summary: Piss on Lovecraft's racist grave by making lewds of Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep.
Then eat arby's and embrace the void."-Kamineigh
"Dougal Dixon rule 34."-Sayornis
Phylogeny of the arthropods and some related groups
In honor of the greatest clade of all time
More pictures
Other cool things
All African countries can fit into Brazil
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Jun 4 2018, 12:27 PM
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the sweet jingle-jangle of the coral triangle
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It is a relic of the forum's history, I beg you, DO NOT DELETE IT!
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Spoiler: click to toggle This is a true story. A girl died in 1933. A man buried her in the ground when she was still alive. The murderer chanted,"Toma sota balcu" as he buried her. Now that you have read the chant, you will meet this little girl. In the middle of the night she will be on your ceiling. She will suffocate you like she was suffocated. If you post this in your profile, she will not bother you. Your kindness will be rewarded.
Spoiler: click to toggle No regrets. Riveting feet is a very unpleasant idea anyway. –Holben
Today I awoke with a sharp pain in my everything; but it was the pain of victory! –Urufumarukai
You be dissin' mah maturity? YOU FAIIIL! –Jasonguppy
We have a song for that. –Fakey
:secretemoticon: Oh, so this is :secretemoticon:... –Ebervalius
Someone should make a meme out of this Dougal Dixon thing. Copy paste his face onto someone in front of a crystal ball, holding a copy of After Man in his hand. –Little
Asking questions isn't always a bad thing. It creates discussion about it, and can sometimes cause Kam to consider things he hadn't thought about before. –Dragon
Good news, got to go out with my friends to the movies today.
Bad news, we saw Ice Age 5. –trex841
Now I'm envious. Six digits needs to become the default trait in humans. I'm gonna settle down with a nice five-fingered lady and have kids so I can teach them to use their incredible power for evil. –Fakey
When I type "both", the suggestions are:
- Bothremyidae
- "Both of You" in Steven Universe
Sums my personality up quite well. –Johnfaa My parents left my windows open and my book is wet, and the meat is rotten and I can't have a cow sandwich and it’s raining and I have to write and take a shower and I need a hole to yell in. –Dr. Nitwhite
It could be a cucumber bear. I'm not familiar enough with the bauplan of zucchini bears to say which. –Johnfaa
I may have been walking around in an embarrassingly small circle for over an hour, trying to use horses as landmarks –Monster
We must save Sam. Someone bring me my shotgun. –Ivan_The_Inedible
Still holding out for sessile canaries. –Monster
Dude it's Redwall written by a speccer. Just imagine, in this novel, Martin the multituberculate must defend the abbey from a horde of quadrupedal bird monsters . . . –seascorpion
Note to self: eggs, rice, chives, lubricant –dio (same person as fakey xD)
I found it difficult to sleep this past night, so instead I cleaned the entire house and all the animal enclosures and baked a cake and woops now it's tomorrow. –Sheather
I haven't got anything against cake. I have, however, got quite a bit against semi-digested food making a migration back up from my stomach and out of my mouth while washing my tongue in digestive juices. -Beetleboy
Rapidly closing in on my self-imposed limit of 20 featherfluffs again now though, so these new additions (Jade and the birthday budgies) will be the last for a while. So he says until next time. –Sheether again
Dentists use their Secret Tooth Powers to obtain forbidden knowledge and blackmail the world governments. -Mr Mysterio Hello spec people.
I am here. Cuz I'm bored.-Sheather
Though a better idea would be to rapidly electrolyze the oceans of the world and monopolize the world's water supply because you own the only major factory for burning hydrogen to form drinking and agricultural water. -colddigger
Well then, good luck with the cheese and the weird tenses. -Trex841
Lawn work just sucks which is why, I have thistles instead. - colddigger yet more
Spoiler: click to toggle "That sort of thing is the reason why I have trouble trusting adults." Somehow Harry kept his voice steady. "Because they get angry if you even try to reason with them. To them it's defiance and insolence and a challenge to their higher tribal status. If you try to talk to them they get angry. So if I had anything really important to do, I wouldn't be able to trust you. Even if you listened with deep concern to whatever I said - because that's also part of the role of someone playing a concerned adult - you'd never change your actions, you wouldn't actually behave differently, because of anything I said." -Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
There are unresolved issues in any science, and this does not prevent science from existing. The same physicists do not know everything about electricity, which does not prevent us all from using electrical devices. And in the structure of the atom, not everything is completely clear, but this does not make it necessary to cancel physics as a science. And mathematicians are arguing about the solution of certain theorems. Therefore, the presence in biology in general, and in the theory of evolution in particular, of some unresolved issues - this is not a reason to cancel and "close" the science or individual fields of knowledge. Science is a search, and unresolved issues will always be. -Pavel Volkov
Yes, yes, irreversible psychological damage might occur, but it is all for their own good, so it's okay. So what if a kid winds up a twitching vegetable afraid of venturing into the outside world? At least he won't get kidnapped by a lollipop-wielding child-molester or hit by a bus while jaywalking and smoking crack. -TV Tropes
Ford: If we're lucky, it's just the Vogons come to throw us in to space.
Arthur: And if we're unlucky?
Ford: If we're unlucky, the captain might read us some of his poetry first... -The Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy
Tthe vast majority of Creationists that I have met online or in real life, have been stubbornly, ignorantly arrogant towards people who accept evolution. I have met some creationists who are genuinely nice people who accept other's beliefs, but they are in the minority. Even the most prominent Creationist preachers or "creation scientists" can be labelled as arrogant, because their behavior when talking against or about evolution ranges from passive-aggressive to bordering on sociopathic.-Tim Morris
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Jun 4 2018, 02:18 PM
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Sheather this is your content and your creations. It's a blessing and a curse, never being quite satisfied with your art, but it's something everyone goes through and is necessary for self improvement. If you want to rework your setting, don't let anyone stop you. If you want to leave it as it is, we can't make you start up again. No projects here are really expected to be a finished product. You aren't writing a book. You're working on a project. Do as you please with it.
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Speculative Evolution Projects- The Great Song (5 myh, North America is filled with giant coots, life in the clouds, and the songs of human descendants. One curious society has devoted itself to the study of this world) The Curious World of Laniakea (An endless world of islands, shallow seas, mangrove swamps, and reefs) Hidden Spring (A partner project between myself and Beetleboy- exploring a future where a twist of cosmic fate changes the planet forever)
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Final SE Lifelist standings 1. Sayornis (82) 2. Dr Nitwhite (79) ↑ 3. Steampunk FireFinch (44) ↓ 4. The Dodo (26) 5. W.C.K.D (23) 6. Sphenodon (21) 7. Sheather (19) 8. Beetleboy (19) 9. Thylacine (16) 10. Monster (15) 11. HangingTheif (15) 12. Aptornis (13) 13. Stealth Rock (10) 14. KomradeWatcher (9) 15. lamna (7) 16. Flisch (5) 17. Olympianmaster (4) ↑ 18. Archipithecus (2) ↓ 19. Datura (1) ↓ 20. Giant Blue Anteater (1) ↓ 21. Kachimushi (1) BREAKING NEWS We interrupt your regular programming to bring you this cutting edge report. ATTENDANCE DROPS DRASTICALLY ON SE SERVER This past Monday on Discord, famous server Speculative Evolution took a hit in the attendance office when it's offline member list suddenly reappeared. Mods scrambled to rectify the situation, but unfortunately there was little anyone could do. Server member Ivan was asked what he thought of the situation. "So long as Flisch, lord of machines and scion of Urborg lives, all will be well". SE, (in)famous for it's eccentric userbase, has recently been spiraling downward, and now we have hard conformation of the decline. Moderator "High Lord" Icthyander states "There is nothing to be concerned about, Discord is merely changing its UI again", but members are beginning to suspect the honesty of their staff. Stay tuned, we'll be back with more at 11.
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Jun 6 2018, 06:26 AM
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What you said touched upon what I think a lot of people authors and artists especially have felt. An inevitable natural consequence of personal growth.
I would not be surprised if you find old favourite ideas worming their way into new works in ways that you might not have forseen initially, and in a greatly improved form.
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