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| SE Census - Favorite Spec Scenario; IT'S THE BIG ONE-O | |
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| Topic Started: May 23 2018, 10:39 PM (977 Views) | |
| Scrublord | May 24 2018, 08:39 PM Post #16 |
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Then you're going to love The Big One! |
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My Projects: The Neozoic Redux Valhalla--Take Three! The Big One Deviantart Account: http://elsqiubbonator.deviantart.com In the end, the best advice I could give you would be to do your project in a way that feels natural to you, rather than trying to imitate some geek with a laptop in Colorado. --Heteromorph | |
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| LλmbdaExplosion | May 25 2018, 01:56 AM Post #17 |
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Vieja Argentea the oscar cichlid
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1.I concur.I love this type of scenario but in the same time for some reason i always gained existential crisis for some reason.Maybe avians and crocodiles would use PC and smartphones by then.Fear of the future maybe? 1.Some of these concepts are a biy lazy.No Grand Coupure would not make a difference at all.I mean some tropical creatures that lived in northern hemisphere such as Leptictidium or Gastornis would survive but most If not all mammals that you see today appeared in Early Eocene such as proto-rhinos,horses,cervids,primates and even carnivorans that would later before the GC evolve into very small felids and canids.I think even the emergence of apes would have been very probable but since no global cooling,humans would not been pushed out of forests and ultimately becoming bipedal and the other steps that require humans to become like they are today.(Dragonthunder's Astarte is exactly about this story but it was abandoned) I attempted a project about severe KT titled Reptomundus ,a world dominated by turtles.(by the way Reptomundus will be bought back as a succesor for the Caelucene period) 3.I agree with Ya' again baby.There are plenty of good scenarios hanging over there. |
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| memebird | May 25 2018, 08:44 AM Post #18 |
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- a planet at the end of its habitable time period and the increasingly smaller number of organisms adapted to the increasingly extreme conditions - terraformed worlds with just a few starting species |
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| Mynameisnotdave23 | May 25 2018, 09:19 AM Post #19 |
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Even though it may not be my favorite, one of the ideas I've had that I really like is a future evolution project so far in the future it's hardly even recognizable as earth, like 500 MY hence. |
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Projects Avisia, an island archipelago isolated for over 88 million years, and is know home to megafaunal birds, mekosuchine crocodiles, and many relics. (currently in infancy) Read here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/Conceptual_Evolution/topic/8192410/2/#new Deviantart: https://mynameisnotdave23.deviantart.com/ | |
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| ÐK | May 25 2018, 09:50 AM Post #20 |
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For me, a good Alt Evo that manages to establish a new set of creatures that really feel new compared to what we already know and takes the anatomy and biology of extinct forms further in a way that still feels completely consistent with what came before, and flows into the pre-existing natural history of life on Earth is just my cup of tea. |
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~Projects~ • Earth Without Earth; Like nothing on Earth...
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| Ebervalius | May 25 2018, 09:53 AM Post #21 |
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-Planets with non-earthly chemical and/or physical properties (Titan-like worlds, tidally-locked planets etc.). -Intense butterfly effect caused by very minor occurrences (like the PoD in my own Sirens project). -Dinosauroids (please don't hit me). -As someone said before, future evo projects that venture very far into the future. |
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| LλmbdaExplosion | May 25 2018, 12:32 PM Post #22 |
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Vieja Argentea the oscar cichlid
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I think many tetrapod clades today would diverge so far into many groups by then.Alieness is a subjective term.I think just teleporting a mere 120 million years ago for a layman would be like visiting an alien world. |
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| Tartarus | May 25 2018, 08:22 PM Post #23 |
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What I've seen of it so far does indeed look promising. I wouldn't really say a "no Grande Coupre" scenario would make no difference. While many of the modern mammal groups had already shown up the early members of these groups were still notably different from the present day members. They could well have gone on to evolve in quite different ways than in our timeline. And the whole thing with creatures that died out in our timeline surviving in this alternate timeline and going on to produce descendant lineages would have a pretty big impact. By the "present" day the world of this alternate timeline would likely be a significantly different world to ours. |
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| Chuditch | May 25 2018, 08:35 PM Post #24 |
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Astarte was made by Archeoraptor, not Dragonthunders. |
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| LittleLazyLass | May 25 2018, 10:44 PM Post #25 |
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Big shock on this one, but I absolutely love the premises of Cornucopia and the Library. An infinite world can have extremely interesting implications, and it makes an open group project far easier to make feasible. Meanwhile, the individual premises throw normal mundane animals into situations with variables so completely alien to earth environments that you end up with stuff unlike that any other scenario could've possibly created. The harvesters, though cheap movie monsters at first glance, are something that opens up so many possibilities when it comes to working around them. Cornucopia works as well as it does because of the presence of them. The Library takes this a step further makes the whole world itself nothing alike anything anybody else has ever specced with - while at the same there being so mundane and familiar, merely an old-fashioned library. Additionally, both have limited list of entrants, which breeds creativity to work with what you have. Sheatheria hits similar notes, with its varied and limited entrants and bizarre world that creates environments unlike anywhere or anywhen on earth; but I'm much less familiar with it, so I can't say quite as much. I know some people just see alternate universe as some lesser form of spec, just trying to cheat its way through the constraints of science, but I am firm when I say it's easily my favorite field of speculative evolution. Speaking of, I've just started a writing a new Cornucopia entry. Stay tuned! |
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| Dragonthunders | May 26 2018, 11:47 AM Post #26 |
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I'm not sure if he just saw the map that I made for the project and thought it was my idea or was confused with another project almost similar, however, yep, Astarte is from Archeoraptor, not mine. Some of the concepts that always call my attention and are my preference to read or work on them are -Future evolution Multi periods: The aspect of seeing the successive changes in both life and the world that exists through time seem really fascinating to me, much more so when it is done with a good detail in each era or period and you can see how the change happens. -Terraformed worlds: I consider it as the best and unrestricted way to play with the evolutionary variables in certain organisms by removing the details of competition between niches, you can put both a canary and an elephant as the only dominant form and the result is always quite impresive, something that on Earth you need really complicate events to one possible idea would happen. -Alternative mass extinction events: Something like more severe extinctions, a stronger Tr/J or K/Pg, a mass extinction in the end of the Jurassic, or during the middle Cretaceous, events like that tend to generate many more divergences, with potential new species and new lineages of animals. -Invaders of other times:It is a concept that has hardly been explored in the forum in an adequate way, the idea of mobilizing some animals into a different time period from the history of the earth, and that it thrives, radically changing the timeline, the best examples that I can imagine they are Tardigradus with tardigrades in the Precambrian, the Triassic grass that Zorcuspine had once published, and I even think that it would fall into this category future evo projects such as Fallow Earth or Terra metropolis since in their respective timelines prehistoric animals are revived and some of these thrive. -The Mix of spec evo subjects The concept of sharing two of the major subjects of spec evo to form a project, something like extended Pleistocene which is Alt evo but with Future Evo. |
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Projects "Active" projects The Future is Far Welcome to the next chapters of the evolution of life on earth, travel the across the earth on a journey that goes beyond the limits, a billion years of future history in the making. The SE giants project Wonder what is the big of the big on speculative evolution? no problem, here is the answer Coming one day Age of Mankind Humanity fate and its possible finals. The Long Cosmic Journey The history outside our world. The alternative paths The multiverse, the final frontier... Holocene park: Welcome to the biggest adventure of the last 215 million years, where the age of mammals comes to life again! Cambrian mars: An interesting experiment on an unprecedented scale, the life of a particular and important period in the history of our planet, the cambric life, has been transported to a terraformed and habitable mars in an alternative past. Two different paths, two different worlds, but same life and same weirdness. My deviantart | |
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| LλmbdaExplosion | May 26 2018, 12:54 PM Post #27 |
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Vieja Argentea the oscar cichlid
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Diacodexys pretty much for example is just a tiny deer with many hoof-like fingers.I admit that If no global cooling occured,today would be much more diversity.Reptiles,fish and birds clades would be pretty much the same again.You can't say they would take a different niche because the body plan was already here.And is too recent to see weirdly extremely different simnificant things. My favourite one would be a no Permian extinction.Forget KT and whatever happened.That would be the bomb! Edited by LλmbdaExplosion, May 26 2018, 01:43 PM.
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| Chuditch | May 26 2018, 08:23 PM Post #28 |
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Actually, a divergence in the Eocene would make the world quite different. For just one example, all of Australia's modern marsupial orders originated in the mid to late Oligocene, so none of those would exist, and Australia would be dominated by completely new clades of marsupial. And what's to say that Diacodexis couldn't have taken a different niche? Animals can take strange unexpected evolutionary paths. Who knows, another mammal or even a bird could take over the niche which then causes Diacodexis to evolve along another path. A no Grande Coupure scenario would make the world a very different place. And so what if it isn't as weird as, lets say a no-Permian extinction project. As long as it isn't exactly like the present day and the creatures are interesting, then it's a good spec project. You can even make a good project by putting the point of divergence in the Miocene, like in Van Diemen's Land, and some, like Viam Alternatus, have even managed to put the point of divergence in the Pleistocene and still be interesting projects (truly a great achievement). It doesn't have to be completely alien, just different enough to be interesting. |
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| beingsneaky | May 26 2018, 08:57 PM Post #29 |
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my favorite spec evo project so far is neverlandia |
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user quotes: "pee is stored in the balls" - Ebervalius "Young ciliaurrg grow on the rear of the parent and look like small slurrg." - ZoologicalBotanist active projects: R.T.K.L(Rotifer Tardigrade Kinorhyncha Loriciferans) | |
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| Bob-The-Seagull-King | May 26 2018, 09:26 PM Post #30 |
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I've been pretty fascinated by projects that discuss the cultures/societies of sapient species, bonus points if its multiple different sophonts interacting with each other. I'm also a fan of posthuman projects (be it humans become non-sapient or future space-humans). It should come as no surprise then that All Tomorrows is a favorite of mine. |
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