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I need some help on concepts for a Perfect Organism; Shadow chuckled. "You mean the chaos emeralds?"
Topic Started: May 5 2018, 07:15 AM (522 Views)
Dazzle
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It's an idea that's been on my mind for awhile. Say that scientists manage to create Life. A single chain of bacteria. It's ultimate destiny? To evolve and to not only replace every Multi-cellular life form on Earth, but to evolve "better" than it. By no means is Evolution an arms race to become better, but it would be interesting to see how ecological niches could be tackled more successfully.

Said Species wouldn't fill the both niches of say, aerial plankton and an African Elephant. It's purpose is to rise and become more fit than the organisms it's competing with at a extremely rapid rate, driving them to extinction, one by one, until eventually even Humans wouldn't be able to fight back.

So where would it start? How would it go about in it's mission? And over what period of time?

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Why would anyone want to do that?
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Killing all complex life on Earth to replace it with a ‘better’ version? Sounds more like a mass specicide.
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May 5 2018, 02:13 PM
Killing all complex life on Earth to replace it with a ‘better’ version? Sounds more like a mass specicide.
Does it really matter why they did it?
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May 5 2018, 02:22 PM
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May 5 2018, 02:13 PM
Killing all complex life on Earth to replace it with a ‘better’ version? Sounds more like a mass specicide.
Does it really matter why they did it?
A reason that makes more sense than ‘for the lulz’ makes it more ‘plausible’
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May 5 2018, 02:13 PM
Killing all complex life on Earth to replace it with a ‘better’ version? Sounds more like a mass specicide.
Does it really matter why they did it?
A reason that makes more sense than ‘for the lulz’ makes it more ‘plausible’
The let's assume that some random fanatic probably pseudo-religious group wanted to exterminate the inferior "original" life so they created a form of life that they thought was superior and destined to eradicate this inferior life forms. That a good scenario?
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"There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars..."
"If you truly love Nature, you will find beauty everywhere."
"My opinions are formed from a perfect blend of science and morality and as such I am an unassailable bastion of absolute truth. All opinions are subjective but mine are objectively the least subjective."
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May 5 2018, 02:51 PM
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May 5 2018, 02:13 PM
Killing all complex life on Earth to replace it with a ‘better’ version? Sounds more like a mass specicide.
Does it really matter why they did it?
A reason that makes more sense than ‘for the lulz’ makes it more ‘plausible’
The let's assume that some random fanatic probably pseudo-religious group wanted to exterminate the inferior "original" life so they created a form of life that they thought was superior and destined to eradicate this inferior life forms. That a good scenario?
Is the ‘random fanatic probably pseudo-religious’ group comprised of alien space bats? Though it sounds better than the original, somewhat.
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Evolution is not goal-oriented. There's no such thing as a "perfect" organism, since the environment is constantly changing and there are so many factors involved. What you're proposing is, to be blunt, nonsensical.
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If scientists created new life, it would likely be destroyed by existing life almost immediately if it was removed from the sterile environment that would be necessary to create it.
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Building off of what Russ has said, there's no real way for a single, static organism to be the "Ultimate Lifeform," since its environment will inevitably change, thus rendering said lifeform no longer the ultimate one.

The only actual way to create an "Ultimate Lifeform" would be to have it able to, whether as an individual or a species, be able to adapt to whatever sort of issues it may come across. So far I've only seen two examples of that on a macro-scale, with one for a species and the other as an individual.

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This kind of thing can work very well in Alternate Universe settings where you get to bend the rules a lot more.
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The only way this “ultimate organism” would even work is if it somehow operated on Lamarckan evolution, which just isn’t possible.
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The Ultimate Lifeform(s)(or rather the Best Fit Lineage) doesn't necessarily have an end goal. Like every other species, it has the potential to evolve over time, only the amount of mutations and offspring allows evolution to occur much faster than any other animal.

The amount of offspring however, doesn't lead to depletion of resources. Mainly because by the time any food sources have been decimated, the amount of mutations that have already occurred allow them to evolve into other niches. Essentially a rapidly evolving biological infestation.
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The quickest mutating organisms IIRC are viruses (yes I am counting them as organisms), and the reason they are able to mutate so quickly is that they have very small amounts of DNA (or RNA in retroviruses). The more complex an organism’s genome is, the longer it takes for significant mutations to occur. This can be offset somewhat by a rapid reproductive rate, but even the fastest reproducing multicellular organisms do not mutate as quickly as viruses and bacteria.
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