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Genetic study in himalaya bear shows unknow hybrid plus more proof that inferred yeti remains are bears; Just change the name of the topic for what the original article stands for, sorry for the irrelevant clicbait title
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This all seems like a stretch to me - mere ignorance and misinterpretation about others cultures (or about science) does not make them racist/discriminatory. True, but it seems like many intentionally do so to fit their own agendas, and that is racist/discriminatory.
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No one's arguing for the existence of satyrs or elves as some sort of hominids hiding out there.
That brings up a point about cryptozoologists: its kind of racist. What I mean is that many of them engage in cultural appropriation. Take Sasquatch for instance. It originated in the folklore of northwestern coast indigenous tribes, but they were just that" folklore, which most of the elders knew very well. Then along came the white cryptozoologists, who start saying "No, they're real," and start adding their own theories to it. The original tales look nothing like the ones today. Pretty much no-one knows that Sasquatch is from indigenous cultures. Cultural appropriation arguably doesn't exist. It's not so much them being racist to non white people, but more so them hearing about a mythical creature and thinking it's really because they're stupid.
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Can we just get back to discussing the nature of the bear hair as a hybrid?
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No one's arguing for the existence of satyrs or elves as some sort of hominids hiding out there.
That brings up a point about cryptozoologists: its kind of racist. What I mean is that many of them engage in cultural appropriation. Take Sasquatch for instance. It originated in the folklore of northwestern coast indigenous tribes, but they were just that" folklore, which most of the elders knew very well. Then along came the white cryptozoologists, who start saying "No, they're real," and start adding their own theories to it. The original tales look nothing like the ones today. Pretty much no-one knows that Sasquatch is from indigenous cultures.
Cultural appropriation arguably doesn't exist. It's not so much them being racist to non white people, but more so them hearing about a mythical creature and thinking it's really because they're stupid.
Cultural appropriation is absolutely a thing, it's just that most people don't understand that it entails. Eating sushi is a non-harmful form of cultural appropriation; stealing australian cave art is a harmful one.
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Can we just get back to discussing the nature of the bear hair as a hybrid?
It is relevant, however.
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- Nov 30 2017, 03:37 PM
This all seems like a stretch to me - mere ignorance and misinterpretation about others cultures (or about science) does not make them racist/discriminatory. Many like to see racism hidden in any views that they consider to be wrong. Its easier to just accuse someone of being a horrible person rather than coming up with sober rational arguments for why one thinks they are wrong.
As for the whole "these things show up in myths so they must be mythical", this is an irrelevant point. The reason cryptids are of interest to anyone is because people in this day and age are reporting them and that includes the local people who often claim these "mythical creatures" are still around. Notice also that things like centaurs and griffins and pegasi and such are noticeably absent from cryptozoology as no one is claiming these things roam the Earth. Its always just things that might sometimes seem a bit odd but can conceivably be fitted into a zoological framework. Finally, the whole racism accusation could well be turned around upon skeptics. After all, it is the skeptics who oppose the notion that creatures certain cultures insist live in their area must be just be local superstition as if people from those cultures can't know as much, let alone more, about their local fauna that "experts" who've often never even visited the places in question. Of course it would be pretty silly to claim all crypto-skeptics are racist, but just as silly to claim the same of cryptozoologists. How about we actually try to consider the arguments on both sides in a calm and rational manner instead of just flinging around accusations of racism or other forms of discrimination?
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No one's arguing for the existence of satyrs or elves as some sort of hominids hiding out there.
That brings up a point about cryptozoologists: its kind of racist. What I mean is that many of them engage in cultural appropriation. Take Sasquatch for instance. It originated in the folklore of northwestern coast indigenous tribes, but they were just that" folklore, which most of the elders knew very well. Then along came the white cryptozoologists, who start saying "No, they're real," and start adding their own theories to it. The original tales look nothing like the ones today. Pretty much no-one knows that Sasquatch is from indigenous cultures.
Cultural appropriation arguably doesn't exist. It's not so much them being racist to non white people, but more so them hearing about a mythical creature and thinking it's really because they're stupid.
Cultural appropriation is absolutely a thing, it's just that most people don't understand that it entails. Eating sushi is a non-harmful form of cultural appropriation; stealing Australian cave art is a harmful one. - Yiqi15
- Nov 30 2017, 06:56 PM
Can we just get back to discussing the nature of the bear hair as a hybrid?
It is relevant, however. So borrowing/doing things that are part of another culture is somehow appropriation? Don't you know that different cultures have been exchanging goods, customs, food, languages, religions, games, traditions, ideas, etc with each other since the origin of Homo sapiens? By that logic, someone from Uganda or Nepal eating a McDonalds big mac or a French croissant is cultural appropriation.
Fact, cultures copy each other and take things from each other. Malagasy from Bantu, Persian from Arab, Tibet from Indian, Japanese from Chinese, Irish from English and so on and so forth
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Nov 30 2017, 07:42 PM
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To make a long story short, yes, that is cultural appropriation. It is simply the act of taking things from another culture. It is ideally a neutral term, misunderstanding of what it entails nonwithstanding.
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- Carlos
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To make a long story short, yes, that is cultural appropriation. It is simply the act of taking things from another culture. It is ideally a neutral term, misunderstanding of what it entails nonwithstanding. Well, "appropriation" has a strong connotation.
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Quotes "Arthropod respiratory systems aren't really "inefficient", they're just better suited to their body size. It would be quite inefficient for a tiny creature that can easily get all the oxygen it needs through passive diffusion to have a respiratory system that wastes energy on muscles that pump air into sacs. (Hence why lungless salamanders, uniquely miniscule and hyperabundant tetrapods, have ditched their lungs in favor of breathing with their skin and buccal mucous membranes.) But large, active insects already use muscles to pump air in and out of their spiracles, and I don't see why their tracheae couldn't develop pseudo- lungs if other conditions pressured them to grow larger."-HangingTheif
"Considering the lifespans of modern non- insect arthropods (decade-old old millipedes, 50 year old tarantulas, 100+ year old lobsters) I wouldn't be surprised if Arthropleura had a lifespan exceeding that of a large testudine"-HangingTheif
"Humans have a tribal mindset and it's not alien for tribes to war on each other. I mean, look at the atrocities chimpanzee tribes do to each other. Most of people's groupings and big conflicts in history are directly or obliquely manifestations of this tribal mindset."-Sceynyos-yis
"He's the leader of the bunch You know his Coconut Gun is finally back to fire in spurts. His Coconut Gun Can make you smile If he shoots ya it's firing in spurts. His Coconut Gun Is bigger, faster, stronger too! He's the gun member of the Coconut Crew! HUH!
C.G.! Coconut Gun! C.G.! Co-Coconut Gun! Shoot yourself with a Coconut Gun! HUH!"-Kamineigh
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"In Summary: Piss on Lovecraft's racist grave by making lewds of Cthulhu and Nyarlathotep.
Then eat arby's and embrace the void."-Kamineigh
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I agree with shrekt'd; whether it was the intended definition or not, the term generally carries a negative connotation (in fact, this is literally how the first two sentence of the Wikipedia article read - it's borrowing from another culture; it's commonly associated with being a negative thing specifically). Therefore, I would argue it's not a particularly useful term when others could be used instead.
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Can we just get back to discussing the nature of the bear hair as a hybrid?
...to discuss what, exactly? Yetis are just bears, conmen, and hyperbole, there's not really that much to it.
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And last night I dreamed I was blowing up a Kindergarten with a grenade launcher for no particular reason...
- revin
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Oh, and of course more people get killed by selfies than by sharks. Of course.
- Parasky
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SHEEEEAAAAATTTTTTHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
- whachamacalit2
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The smell of rotting flesh really kills my appetite, surprising, but the visual appearance of corpses makes me hungry. Is that weird?
- Ebervalius
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I mean, let us say I'm a genderfluid blurflux demi-romantic woman who is sexually attracted to men, but only if they are Melanesian and have a voice like that of Nicholas Cage. Okay, so what?
- trex841
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When I first saw that picture, I thought you were dissecting a condom.
- Mr Mysterio
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All hail Robo-Stalin.
- Peashyjah
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Seems like everything in this project is now dead.
- Stealth Rock
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Seagulls are pretty much trees, right?
- Watcher
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We all must finish chapters of our lives to go on to the next. Sometime this means leaving behind versions of ourselves that don't want to die.
- Yiqi15
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For April fool's, we had to make an orgasm that resembled a human foot.
- Flisch
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im the black market
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He was a skater birb, she said tweet you later birb
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Quotes - Some dude called plucas1 from Youtube comments
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Funny, isn't it, that our world needs Clark Kent a lot more than Superman.
- Xenoblade Chronicles
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Even though he is our creator, that does not afford him the right to take our lives on a whim. But that is the thinking of a homs. He is a god. Such morals cannot apply to gods. So you think we should just shut up and die?! If that is the fate decided by a god. You are mistaken if you think we will simply accept such a fate and wait to die. We'll never stop fighting. Not till the end. To Zanza, the outcome is the same. Thus your logic is flawed.
- Hades - Kid Icarus Uprising
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When freaky aliens give you lemons, make freaky alien lemonade.
- Kid Icarus Uprising
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But Souls are delicious. They're like bacon - they taste good on anything. But if you eat them, you completely remove them from existence! They can't move on or... or be reincarnated! Huh. I never really gave it much thought. Besides, what do you mean by reincarnation anyway? You know, being reborn as someone or something else. Which means different body, different memories, different experiences, yes? So isn't being reborn as "something else" the same as being "removed from existence"? I... I... eating souls isn't right! That depends on your definition of "right". All living things survive by eating other living things. So what? You're a god. You should be above all that! Gods are above living things, which doesn't necessarily mean we care about them.
- Some Dude on BBC Two
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You are being shagged... by a flightless parrot.
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Dec 1 2017, 02:14 PM
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- Tartarus
- Nov 29 2017, 08:16 PM
The thing the study ignores is the fact that the term "yeti" does not refer to just one thing. There are supposed to be at least three different and distinct types of yeti- the teh-lma, the yeh-teh and the dzu-teh. The existence of bear hair tells us nothing of whether or not any of the different types of yetis exist, let alone what any of them might be if they do. Just another case of online articles creating a lot of unnecessary hype over very little. And let's not forget the Mi-go!
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- Nov 29 2017, 08:21 PM
I agree too! Let's just get this out of the way...
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All Expansions (my attempt at expanding the universe of All Tomorrows by Nemo Ramjet aka C.M. Kosemen, started June 6, 2018) Anthropozoic (my attempt at expanding the universe of Man After Man and also a re-imagining of it, coming 2019 or 2020) New Cenozoica (my attempt at expanding the universe of The New Dinosaurs and also a re-imagining of it, also coming 2019 or 2020) All Alternatives or All Changes (a re-telling of All Tomorrows but with some minor and major "changes", coming June 10, 2018)
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